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Main Discussion > Anyone using an E-Flite EFLC505 charger?
 
 
vidmarv
Senior Heliman
Location: ft walton beach, FL

I posted this over in the "batteries & charger" section yesterday, but only got one response. Hope you will forgive me for posting in a more active section. I've done several searches for a review on this unit (here and a couple of other forums that shall go un-named as well as google). I realize it is new, but hoped someone might have one and give us some feedback on it. At $109 USD it seems pretty reasonable. Most of the comparable chargers are running $50 more (and up!).

After puffing a battery, I'm hoping to get a charger that will give me some better feedback than the two "blind" charger/balancers that I am presently using. The features on this one claim a timer circuit, and temperature sensor and (if I read it correctly) the ability to tell you how much Mah was put in after the charge. After a bit of reading, this is the feature I am most interested in. I need to know how long I can fly these batteries without damaging them. I fly a Blade CP and Trex 450 so I think it will suffice for any battery that might go into one of those.

Before I lay down any green for it, I'd really like to hear something more than company propaganda on it.

Many thanks to a great group!

VM

Perfectly sliced air every time!
04-17-2008 02:45 PM
 
 
JRjoe
Elite Veteran
Location: Portage, IN

It's a good charger in my opinion. Charges 1 to 5 cells thats a very good thing. But....


It still requires a 12volt source. And only charges 1 battery at a time. Now, unless you really need to charge more than a 3 cell lipo i'd suggest the Hobbico Elite ($130.00). It will charge 2 batteries at a time and it comes with the AC power supply. Plus it's not a lipo only charger. Will charge nicad and Nimh batts too.


Now i'm not saying that the E-flite charger is bad or that the Hobbico is the best. Just that for the price i get a lot more out of the Elite. My 2 cents....


JRjoe
04-17-2008 02:55 PM
 
 
vidmarv
Senior Heliman
Location: ft walton beach, FL

Hi Tailspin90

Thanks for the tip.

I just read over the features on the website and am guessing you are using one of these. Do you need separate balancers for it? That was one of the things that was pushing me towards the e-flite, it has a built in balancer. Which one's do you use for it? I assume it would require 2 balancers to charge 2 Lipo batteries simultaneously? Already have several power supplies lying around, so not such a big deal.

Also, there are a couple of other features that had me interested in the E-flite model. Timer circuit and temperature detection. After seeing some of the Lipo hazards I'm a bit paranoid about such things. I do monitor my charges, but it's nice to know there is a timer on it (just in case my old brain forgets!).

Sounds like I'm advocating this product, but I am not really. Just putting these features out there for discussion. I am still new to all this, so maybe these things aren't so important. Looking to the experienced in the group to tell me if I'm thinking properly.

Thanks again for your input. I will consider this product.

VM

PS- They have them at my LHS, who takes pretty good care of me. That would be more convenient for any warranty issues. Guess that plays a part in it as well.

Perfectly sliced air every time!
04-17-2008 03:26 PM
 
 
jschenck
Elite Veteran
Location: La Vista, NE.

I bought a Hobbico Elite when they were first introduced. Been working for years just great. I charge my RX and TX batteries with it all the time.

BUT I do not think it's the right charger for modern Lipo's since it does not balance charge. You could use this if you bought a separate balancer. Another limitation is it can only charge a max of 2A and a 3 cell lipo.

For your situation I would look at the CellPro 4S charger.

...yep...
04-17-2008 05:10 PM
 
 
JRjoe
Elite Veteran
Location: Portage, IN

I just use the TP balancer, sure it's an extra purchase but that's what i do.... Gotta look at the big picture , one charger does it all...

RX packs, TX packs, and my lipos....


JRjoe
04-17-2008 05:15 PM
 
 
cwright
Veteran
Location: Blossvale New York

You might want to also look at the Thunder Power 610C charger. I picked one of these up and really like it. It will do up to 6S packs, but on the bigger 6S packs it will take a little longer to charge because it is only an 80 watt charger. However even a 6S 2500 pack you will be able to charge at 1C. I like the built in balancer and it comes with an adapter that fits different brand of batteries. It will show the voltage in each cell and tell you the mah it put back in the pack. It also does nimh, nicd, PB, and A123 cells. I think the price was $139 so it isn't that much more then the E Flight one. You do need to use a 12 volt power source with it but most of the better chargers are that way. Chuck
04-17-2008 05:19 PM
 
 
MMike
Elite Veteran
Location: Holland,Mi-USA

Triton Jr. $75
Equinox Balancer $35
Works Great
You will need a 12 volt Power supply.
04-17-2008 07:52 PM
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vidmarv
Senior Heliman
Location: ft walton beach, FL

OK, I'm the guinea pig

I appreciate all the tips. I needed a "smart" charger so I went ahead and got one of these. It's on it's first charge, so I'll let you know how it goes with it. I realize I'm taking a chance with a new product, but thought I would anyway since it's what my LHS offers. I have heard of all of the chargers that you guys have recommended before and heard good things about them. I hope I don't kick myself later on for not sticking with "tried and true" products, but SOMEONE has to try out the new stuff! Just so happens I have a need right when it's coming out. If things go south, you all have my permission to say, "I told you so!"

I was excited by the fact that it included a "temperature sensor" but that's not entirely the case. Turns out, it's got the connection and programming for one, but doesn't actually include the sensor. The folks at the LHS didn't know what kind it took or where to get it. The website doesn't seem to have any info on it either. I suppose, because it is so new, they don't have the temp. sensors out yet. I'm a little disappointed with the lack of info on this.

The display is nice, large, backlit and easy to read for older eyes. Wish the manual was a little bigger, you'll need a magnifying glass for that one! The manual was adequate, but minimal. I would have liked a bit more information on using Mah to calculate flight times, but this forum is a great source for that.

They offer an pack of optional converter cables for Thunder Power batteries for $7.99. While don't have any, I am seriously considering them and it's nice to know this charger will easily accommodate them.

I was pleased to find a couple of safety features on this that is really what pushed me over the edge in my decision to try this out. The cut-off timer can be programmed to turn off the voltage after a user set amount of time. I try to monitor all my charges, but sometimes get pulled away to other things. In the past I've rigged up a voltage timer on that circuit to prevent it from running on for hours unsupervised. This is a nice feature to have built in.

The Mah cut off is another feature that makes me feel a bit better about this unit. It comes set by default to 9900 Mah, It is presently charging my 3s 11.1v 2200mah battery with the cutoff set to 2200mah. Nice to know it won't "just keep going" past a certain point.

The kit includes a couple of accessory cable to hook up to DC power. I'm no big fan of alligator clips and that's what is on the stock DC cable. I will probably be switching to a banana plug when I get the chance. Two other cable included are for connecting the blue E-flite power leads and the smaller red power leads from a 2s 11.1v 800mah batteries. The balancing connectors are plugged into the side of the unit in a six pin connector. I'm thinking you'll want to pay special attention to making this connection as there are no "idiot" slots that prevent you from making an improper connection. Looks like you could easily plug it in wrong and I'm not quite sure what the consequences of that action might be. Given the volatility of Lipo's I really don't care to find out either.

For other batteries, I suppose you would have to fabricate your own power lead cables, but I don't think that would be a huge deal as the actual connection to the charger is via separate banana style connectors.

The charger just informed me that my first charge of my battery is complete. It took 55:25 to put 370mah into the pack at 5w. Not sure how that compares to other chargers, but it's nice to have that info now. Prior to this charger, I have been charging "blind" with no way to tell how much mAh the charger has been putting into my packs.

The unit is encased in a very nice metal housing that seems as though it will withstand the rigors of daily use.

Well... Like I said a minute ago, I've got a full battery, so that means it's time to fly. Would love to hear from any one else who is trying one of these out. I realize that it is a new product and, being one of the first to try it out puts me in the role of "beta" tester (despite what anyone says, it's the nature of corporate product releases these days!). Hopefully, it will work. I'll report more back when I find out more.

VM

PS- I sent an email to E-fite asking about the temperature sensor. Let you know when (or if) I hear anything back. Hadn't dealt with their customer support before, should be interesting.

Perfectly sliced air every time!
04-17-2008 08:51 PM
 
 
vidmarv
Senior Heliman
Location: ft walton beach, FL

Just got off the phone with tech support regarding sensor

As suspected, it's not out yet, but will be soon.

The tech was very nice. Even though he couldn't tell me WHEN they would be coming out, he did say that there would be different sensors for different batteries. Hadn't seen that feature on other chargers. I like the thought process behind it.

VM

Perfectly sliced air every time!
04-17-2008 09:36 PM
 
 
vidmarv
Senior Heliman
Location: ft walton beach, FL

2nd charge

OK, this thing IS pretty smart! I put it in for it's second charge. Guess the battery is still too hot. It starts out at 0.1A, just fine. Then as it continues, the amperage increases. When it hits about 5A it shuts off. I'm hoping because the battery is still too hot to take that much amperage and it's somehow detected. Letting it cool now...

Been about 15 minutes since I tried to charge it. Seems to be taking it now. When I first started, it was only about 5 mins. after the flight. It was cool to touch, but I guess still internally too warm to comply with the electrical fail safes of this charger. I'm encouraged by the "intelligence" of this charger.

On the downside, it appears as though the "charger control setup" must be set each time. It must fall back to default whenever powered down. Perhaps even after each cycle. Nothing about this mentioned in the manual. I'll try and remember to check before the next cycle.

VM

PS- upon re-readig this thread, I realize it's become a bit of a blog. At this point I am happy with the charger. It does the job and seems to have some very clever safety features built into it. I will not post any more regarding this (unless something unusual happens). I would still like to hear any comments from anyone else's experiences with this device. So far... so good. (fingers crossed).

Here is the link to the product from the manufacturer (for those interested);
http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/D...?ProdID=EFLC505

Perfectly sliced air every time!
04-17-2008 10:41 PM
 
 
TulOkFly
Senior Heliman
Location: Tulsa. OK - USA

EFLC505

I have a EFLC505 and it is garbage. I used it for about three weeks and then today I hooked it up to my battery and the screen went crazy. After disconnecting and reconnecting the screen just shows a row of squares and the charger is dead.
I took it apart and I am pretty sure the circuit board shorted against the metal outer casing. There is no protection internally to keep this from happening.
If you enjoy buying $100 dollar paperweights then I recommend this charger.
05-25-2008 09:05 PM
 
 
JRjoe
Elite Veteran
Location: Portage, IN

I doubt very much that is a paper weight. Just send it back to Horizon. They back up the products they sell....


JRjoe
05-25-2008 09:12 PM
 
 
vidmarv
Senior Heliman
Location: ft walton beach, FL

Sorry to hear of your woes, TulOkFly

Did you buy it at a LHS? Take it back. That's what they are their for. The guy in my town takes good care of me. But I do go to him as much as I can, so it's an even trade.

If you can't take it back locally, Eflite does answer their phone calls and seem nice enough. Perhaps you'll give them a call? It is the first version for them, though I suspect this charger is private labeled through someone else I think Eflite will take care of you.

The one I've got is still working and I've used it almost daily since I got it.

Good luck.

VM

Perfectly sliced air every time!
05-27-2008 09:03 PM
 
 
TulOkFly
Senior Heliman
Location: Tulsa. OK - USA

EFLC505

I had taken it back to the LHS on 5/25 and the a$$ working that day said they would not exchange it. I went back today and spoke with the owner, who had recommended the charger and had done the sale, and let him know what had happened. He called Eflight and they said to swap it out and send the broken one in. I could not get a refund however, since it had been over 14 days.
In all fairness the service from EFlight was fair enough and at least the owner of the LHS did the right thing.
I needed a charger over the long weekend though so I had gone ahead and bought a nearly new TP-610C from one of the guys in the local club.

Just Fly!!!
TRex 450
Blade 400
MX450XS (parts machine now)
05-27-2008 10:24 PM
 
 
ChopperEddie
Veteran
Location: Pennsylvania, USA!

Has anyone tried charging their LiPos at 2C using this E-flite charger? If so, can you comment on how it went?

-- Runway? We don't need no stinking runway! --
05-31-2008 03:50 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

I seem to say this a lot but the CellPro 4s is one of the best and simplest charges on the market. It is only $75, charges 2-4 cells at up to 4A and the most important part is that charges through the balance plug, so it is one of the safest and fastest. I bought a Hyperian first and sure it is nice but it is in a different league than the CellPro.

As a note I charge all my batteries at 2C. For reference it charges a 2100mAh 3s pack in about 31min when it is 80% discharged.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
05-31-2008 03:56 PM
 
 
TulOkFly
Senior Heliman
Location: Tulsa. OK - USA

2C

I have been using the TP-610C mostly for the last week and it is a great charger and can do up to 10A. I have never exceeded 1C on my 3s lipos but I do have a Thunder Power Extreme 2200mAh pack that is capable of, I believe, being charged at up to 3C.
Since the EFLC505 is adjustable and it can be set to 5A it can do 2C on a 2100mAh pack (4.2A) but I personally would not exceed the recommended charge rate for the particular pack. It is faster to do 2C but I think it will shorten the life of a pack that is rated at 1C, if not cause a fire.

Just Fly!!!
TRex 450
Blade 400
MX450XS (parts machine now)
06-01-2008 05:09 AM
 
 
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