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QuickWorldWide Ep and Wet Fuel Helis > Dragonitrus - a Quick 60 pro project
 
 
Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada

Hi guys, im new here on RR and pretty new to the heli stuff, i own a few small electric chopper up to a 450 size, but nothing nitro nor big like the Q60.

anyways, 1 week ago i bought a used Q60 pro off ebay, and i didnt know a thing about QWW, but ive read just about eveything on that forum up to 2003, ("funny" stuff going on here )

the guy state that his tail linkage came off in flight and the heli almost hit him.. he said he as been a little freaked out to run the heli since. the heli as the main shaft bent but i get 2 shaft for replacement in the pakage.

Dragonitrus: a big flying dragon that eat nitro :P
seriously the heli does have a really nice custom painted dragon head on the canopy. thats why i call it Dragonitrus

i plan to take the whole heli apart, clean and rebuild it. probably i gonna deanodize the blue aluminium parts since it doesnt match very well with the red dragon theme, and probly gonna deanod some of the black alu. parts as well.
once my anod setup is done i will mb reanod everything red to match up the red dragon theme.

i have some mods in mind that i want to do.. but i will see when i get the heli

now from what i have read i fear the heli wont be up to the task for 3d!?! ive not seen a video yet of a QWW heli doing hardcore 3d stuff
but anyway... up to the task or not i will just do that and see what happend

here the current setup/stuff
Quick 60 Pro - metal?
OS .61 LX H
3 digital "unknow"(till i get the heli) servos(for the swashplate)
futaba s9254 on the tail
rx rutaba 7ch pcm
rx batt. pack(suposly dead)
wood blade 680mm
carbon tail blade
new set of razor pro blade carbon 680mm
new flybar and flybar paddle

UPS is supose to drop the pakage to my door today, cant w8 to start to work on that choppper!

here some pics from the ebay auction

04-17-2008 01:12 PM
 
 
Eury
Elite Veteran
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

I saw that on there, the canopy is awesome, you'll have to let us know if it looks as good in person as it does in the pics. I dunno how well it's going to show up in the air and help with orientation, but it sure looks good.


Nick Crego
I'm not going to put my lot in with economists.
04-17-2008 01:41 PM
 
 
bubba01
Senior Heliman
Location: NE Pennsylvania

Looking forward to seeing how your project turns out...the idea sounds good!

btw...the seller should be ashamed of the wiring job on that heli! If that's an indication of his attention to detail, then your plan to do a complete tear down and rebuild is a very wise one indeed.


Cop: Sir, have you been drinking? Driver: Why? Is there a fat girl in my backseat?
04-17-2008 01:51 PM
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

Great CANOPY

Hi Dark

Welcome too QWW...if you need any help our office is here for you...610 282 4811.

We originally produced this machine at least 10-11 years ago...Anycase it is a solid flying machine.

Stripe it down & check everything..especially the bearing so that they are not gritty.

THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE STILL ON LINE ....QWW
04-17-2008 02:40 PM
 
 
Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada

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you'll have to let us know if it looks as good in person as it does in the pics.

sure, i will take some pics when i get the heli.. those pics from ebay arent that good

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btw...the seller should be ashamed of the wiring job on that heli! If that's an indication of his attention to detail, then your plan to do a complete tear down and rebuild is a very wise one indeed.

yep.. thats what i though, im used to take nitro machine all apart and rebuild them so the maintenance should go pretty well, we own over 20 nitro monster truck, ST, trucks, cars etc

Thanks for the welcome & infos QWW, i doubt i will ever phone since i dont speak english, can read/write and thats about it :/

the previous owner said he got the heli in 2003
04-17-2008 05:07 PM
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

WE ARE A GLOBAL COMPANY

Je peux parler français
04-17-2008 05:52 PM
 
 
rsalazar
Key Veteran
Location: Florida, USA

Nice canopy, very interesting
04-17-2008 11:25 PM
 
 
ZXXflyer
Veteran
Location: stone mountain, georgia, US

lookin good and welcome!
I also own a Quick 60 pro... so if I can help you with anything, just shoot me a PM.

Believer in Weston motors!
04-18-2008 01:39 AM
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Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada

QWW thats good to hear, i will mb phone if i really need to then

Thanks ZXXflyer

got the heli yesterday, the heli looks good, sad..the canopy as been damaged a little while the transport, i will try to find a professional painter to restore the canopy, the paint job is awesome. the pics doesnt do justice at all, very nicely detailed

damage:
canopy...
horizontal fin
1 part of the frame is slightly bent
tail linkage

thats all the domage i can see for the moment, and other than that the heli look like its in really good shape.
the suposly dead rx pack work just fine after it charged the whole night.
the pack is a sanyo 4cell 1700mah nicd, should a put a 5cells pack in there to get 6v? or the 4.8v pack is enough?

the razor blade look nice but it is normal for a carbon blade to weight more than a wood blade? the razor carbon weight 24g more than those woodies

the servos on the cyclic are 3 hitec HS-5625-MG
the throttle servos is a futaba FP-S148

also got a few extra, brand new FP-S148 and some n4-tec traxxas parts?!?(cool i own 6 n4tec:P).. heh.. and some other goodies

here some pics just after i pulled the heli out of the box




now the heli is in my workshop and the camera batteries is on the charger, i will take some more pics with the tail boom and blades installed
04-18-2008 03:04 PM
 
 
JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

Dark,

Too bad about the damage..... a bent frame is not good.... Did you see physical damage to the box before you opened it ?? If the package was insured and you pointed that damaged box to the carrier you may be able to re-coup some $$......

Regarding your battery, the 1700 4 cell should ge good enough..... I would not "trust" it, however, until you have run AT LEAST 3 full charge to discharge cycles through it AND you get close to the rated capacity..... Remember, that is the heart of your system.....if the battery craps out on you while in the air, you stand the chance of doing a LOT of damage to the machine and worst yet, you may get hurt or hurt someone else in the process.....By the way, a 5 cell pack of the same capacity will give you more voltage (not needed) but most likely less flying time.... I would stick with the 4 cell.

Lastly, based on some of your questions and reading that this is your first nitro, I would VERY STRONGLY recommend that you get with someone who is experienced with nitros to help you set it up and in flying "trim" for you before you get too far.....

Good luck !!
04-18-2008 03:48 PM
 
 
jb73
New Heliman
Location: Erie PA

Nice looking heli. My first heli was a used Quick Learner 46. I found a number of issues with it including tail blades that were mounted and spinning the wrong way. Take your time with the set up and make sure to double and triple check everything.

I was using a 1500 mAh receiver pack. I found even with a new pack and a fresh charge I was near the danger zone according to my volt watch after hovering 1 tank. I switched to the 4200 mAh sub c packs and I can fly at least 8-10 flights before I need to switch them out. I know they weigh more but for me the extra weight is worth it thanks to the extended flying time and piece of mind.

Best wishes,
Jeff
04-18-2008 04:18 PM
 
 
Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada

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Too bad about the damage..... a bent frame is not good.... Did you see physical damage to the box before you opened it ??

the frame damage doesnt seem that bad nor critical, its the lower rear part (left side)of the frame, at the bottom where the aluminium L part and skid support meet, it is slightly bent which compress the skid support alittle in the center. i will try to fix it or just buy a new frame part if thats posible

the box wasnt damaged, the frame as probly been damaged by the previous owner when he lost his tail mid flight

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I would not "trust" it, however, until you have run AT LEAST 3 full charge to discharge cycles through it AND you get close to the rated capacity

right, i will cycle the pack a few times

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By the way, a 5 cell pack of the same capacity will give you more voltage (not needed) but most likely less flying time.... I would stick with the 4 cell.

i was thinking about 6v for the servos "punch", since i want eventualy do 3d stuff not that im ready nor in hurry to do 3d, but i though on 6v the little more punch the servos will have the better the heli will respond

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I would VERY STRONGLY recommend that you get with someone who is experienced with nitros to help you set it up and in flying "trim" for you before you get too far.....

yea.. i will be a member of my local club this summer.. i will surely find some experienced guys that can help me out

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I switched to the 4200 mAh sub c packs and I can fly at least 8-10 flights before I need to switch them out. I know they weigh more but for me the extra weight is worth it thanks to the extended flying time and piece of mind.

i though about a sub-c pack, the previous owner used some dead weight under the battery pack to balance the heli, i guess the sub-c will give a better balance

Thanks guys
pics comming soon
04-18-2008 05:30 PM
 
 
Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada



tryed to take a pic of the bent frame part, but its hard to see

04-18-2008 08:52 PM
 
 
Eury
Elite Veteran
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

Man, when are people going to learn how to ship canopies? If that had been filled with foam or newspaper, then covered in bubble wrap and boxed so that it couldn't get crushed, that canopy wouldn't have been damaged. I just had the same thing happen to me today. I bought a heli with a nice custom canopy, and since it wasn't filled up when shipped, it got crushed as well. It sucks, because the nice canopy is the thing I was most looking forward to when I opened the box. It's like having Santa kick you in the nuts.


Nick Crego
I'm not going to put my lot in with economists.
04-18-2008 08:57 PM
 
 
ZXXflyer
Veteran
Location: stone mountain, georgia, US

That's a shame about the canopy... You should definately file and insurance claom on the package... the USPS will pay the full insurance ammount, and then the seller can "release" the damaged product to you(so that you don't have to ship it back). I ordered a 30 size jet ranger fuselage off e-bay for $85 and made sure the guy insured it for full "new" value of $150... well when it arrive in a crushed, opened, and duct taped back together box, I filed a claim... Within a week I had a refund of my money(they send the seller a check), and the seller signed a form releasing the damaged product to me.. so in the end I made $65 and got a fuselage that needed some glass work done to the tail section. It now looks good as new.
A good painter should be able to re-shoot the clear as long as the fiberglass structure is still intact.

I also highly recommend about a 3000mAh sub-C pack on the front...It will balance the heli perfectly and is a must for hi-powered servos!


...and definately not cool when santa kicks you in the junk.

Believer in Weston motors!
04-18-2008 09:10 PM
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Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada

Update

Hey guys, been a little busy lately.. but i made some work on the heli.

the landing gears mod was not ez to do, but everything been like i had planed. the 3 in 1 mod i call it, look better, remove some weight(not much but still 39 to 22 grames per L part), and moved some weight foward(again.. not much, but better than nothing i guess) but the first factor was definitivly the look.

deanoded most of the lower frame parts and the tail boom
the lower part of the heli should be done soon
next will be the tail rotor assembly

here some pics



Edit :
here a pic of the skids before the mod
05-08-2008 06:44 AM
 
 
Dark
New Heliman
Location: Jonquiere, QC, Canada

hey guys, no comments on my skid mod? anyways here some more pics and a few questions..

i plan to add a RTS and a fail safe, its a good idea?
i see the fan case is not made to accept an air filter, should i mod it and install an air filter? i just dont feel confortable to run an engine w/o and which kind of air filter i need?

i deanodized all the part i wanted in the lower part of the heli.. but now. i realize the summer is comming fast and all the anodized part that i want to deanod, have beraings pressed in them :S i cant get them off and dont want to pull them out for now.. too much job, i will deanod the rest next winter

the engine was really gummy, but after a little clean up it seem in really good shape. good compression

does that heli can do autorotation? by the design it look like it cant. if no, can i mod/install a system that will do autorotation? with my current frame??

05-11-2008 05:58 AM
 
 
geker
Senior Heliman
Location: lykens,PA

it should be set up for auto already from what i read in the manual. should have a oneway int the main gear . get it out
05-11-2008 06:28 PM
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

THIS IS AN OLDER PRE-DRIVEN TAIL 60-90 MODEL

It is hard to see from the photo's, from what I see it has a SINGLE main gears. This certainly has auto capabilities however with single gear there is no driven tail.

Without striking any chords for the average flyer JUST auto capabilities are enough. Now all of us need to do 180 degree auto's.
05-11-2008 06:53 PM
 
 
ZXXflyer
Veteran
Location: stone mountain, georgia, US

yeah.... 180 autos are no fun.... just shoot for INVERTED autos instead.

The gear mod looks good.
And if you want a driven tail rotor then order the KSJ part #KSJ453
It is a "LSD Auto Hub all Ergo, Venture 30" ...

http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=102190



Don't worry about running an air filter unless you fly off of dirt, or plan on spooling up the heli a ton of times for testing.

Have you found a painter to salvage the canopy??


..and how did you strip the black anodizing off the aluminum parts?
it looks good!

Believer in Weston motors!
05-11-2008 09:00 PM
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