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After Market Accessories > SpiderGear landing gear for T-Rex 450
 
 
xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

I am launching a brand new and articulating landing gear brand named "SpiderGear"starting with the Align T-rex 450. This is a direct replacement for the stock gear. I spent considerable time coming up with a functional, durable and visually appealing design and i hope that you all agree. I know there are other flexible landing gear out there, but i decided to come up with something that works and is also more durable than anything out there. I have a few flying buddies that are in the learning process, dealing with hard landings and the broken parts that become of them. The Spider Gear are an assembly consisting of 3 cnc machined main components; an .032 6061 aluminum lower frame stiffener plate that sandwiches between the landing strut and the lower frame, a main landing strut that screws into the stock lower frame plate and 2 articulating arms that pin into the main landing strut. The aluminum skids are included as well. The hardware package includes 2 springs, 4 #2x1/2 screws, 2 stop pins, 2 axle pins, 4 retaining collars, 4 nylon thrust washers and 2 set screws for the landing skids (the skids are retaining only by the rear half of the gear, that way they can articulate upon an angled landing and start absorbing shock before the rest of the heli hits. All parts are powdercoated either super chrome, or silver vein. Custom colors can also be done. All up weight is approximately 3 ounces

Spidergear is designed to reduce the shock load that the helicopter structure receives, by using springs, dampening rate increases the farther the arms are flexed. The stiffener plate distributes the load across the bottom of the frame, further reducing shock loads to any one corner of the airframe. Stability is also dramatically increased as these gear are 1 1/8" wider than stock

I am so sure of the durability of this product that, The aluminum strut and arms will be covered with a lifetime replacement warranty.

Since this is a launch of a new product, i'm going to offer a special available here only on helifreak and runryder to jumpstart this exciting new product. For the next 2 weeks, I will sell the complete spidergear which includes the stiffener plate, 2 main struts, 4 arms, 2 skids and all of the necessary hardware for $29.95. I'm so confident in this product that if anyone who purchases a set of spidergear is unhappy with the performance, i will refund the money. I'm doing this special to get some gear out there for review. You will not be disappointed.

Patent papers were received and filed Friday the 4th, they are now in patent pending status and production will begin on Monday April 7th

If anyone has any questions whatsoever, please email me at xgear@clearwire.net, or call me at 541-591-1071

04-07-2008 07:23 AM
 
 
Boidman
Key Veteran
Location: Lipo Alley

I'll wish you all the best luck, and accept that you have a very strong belief in your product, but I am left wondering if there is any significant improvement over other existing gear?

Gorilla gear is a damn fine example of strength and durability, and is possibly less than half the weight. On a small heli, weight can be a big issue for many.

Your gear has a bulky look compared to what we are used to seeing, and the springs are a very unusual visual detail.

For more than a few, the appearance while just sitting on a table is not a minor issue, even though many details are hardly detectable at average flying distances.

The wider stance has an obvious benefit, and maybe the durabilty is there, but sell us a little more, and harder, on its structural and cosmetic value.
04-07-2008 08:01 AM
 
 
Humpadump
New Heliman
Location: s bend alley

Nice gears, look good , very inovative, not sure if they,ll go mainstream as standard gears as effective and simpler, maybe boutique only
But only one problem
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Since this is a launch of a new product, i'm going to offer a special available here only on helifreak

This is Runryder.
04-07-2008 08:08 AM
 
 
xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

humpadump, thankyou for catching that, thats fixed now
04-07-2008 08:16 AM
 
 
xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

Boidman, thankyou for your thoughts, these gear are directed to the learner crowd that is or will be doing alot of repairs because of bad landings. These are meant to keep them flying as much as possible and honing their skills instead of getting depressed or having second thoughts about the hobby because of the cost of dumb mistakes that cost them who knows what in parts. Weight is the reason that these will not be available for smaller birds like the blade cp. I have been flying a set on my rex for awhile now testing and at my skill level, i do not notice any notable performance degradation. If i was brutalizing the sticks, then yes they would be too much, but at that point, landing gear are not going to save a heli from that kind of a crash. I also make a lightweight set of aluminum gear that are ridgid and will not break either, but if a learner lands very hot on those, they will not give nearly as much and they will inevitably put a concentrated shock load into the frame, thus costing them money and downtime. As far as the springs go, that is the idea that i came up with to achieve an alloy landing gear that articulates and forgives. I'm all about people not being used to this approach, after all, isn't creativity where its at? I could have came up with the same old aluminum gear that bends and breaks costing blades, shafts, head, etc but i wanted to do something outside the box to try to keep customers helis in one piece, learning from their mistakes and trying to keep their broken parts to a minimum.
04-07-2008 08:32 AM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

I think you've got a good idea. Hope it flys!

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04-07-2008 08:56 AM
 
 
Humpadump
New Heliman
Location: s bend alley

how hard are the springs ?, if most choppers bottomed out like that(in photo) the tail would hit the ground and explode, i do see the merit in the idea but you would want to get the tension right to be truly effective.
04-07-2008 09:05 AM
 
 
tlankford01
Senior Heliman
Location: Amarillo, TX 79110

I think they are pretty neat. I would have been happy to own some when I was learning. I know lots that are here. I will recommend they try them.
04-07-2008 01:07 PM
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umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

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if most choppers bottomed out like that(in photo) the tail would hit the ground and explode,

Not if you have a vertical fin back there. Hell, I can flex my gorilla gear that much and have done so on many hard auto's and I've never once had a problem with my tail exploding.

XGEAR,

Have you condidered ditching the spring and using some other material such as rubber with a similar spring rate?

What about a torsion bar instead of a spring? (thinking similar to torsion bar vehicle suspensions)
04-07-2008 02:15 PM
 
 
merlin3
Senior Heliman
Location: ohio

looks good but it think just a well made pair of aluminum struts would work about just as well as that's what I'm trying to find.

Justin
04-07-2008 02:40 PM
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xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

humpadump, its not floppy by any means, to get it to bottom out is going to take a hell of a hit, but they will absorb shock and thats what i'm after with these
04-07-2008 08:25 PM
 
 
xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

umdpru, springs are the simplest and most cost effective way that i could come up with to get the job done. I thought of rubber and torsion bars but couldn't come up with anything that wouldn't drive up machining costs and ultimately the final cost of the product. If i can find what i'm looking for, they will also ship with black plastic covers for the springs, it can be the purchasers option to use them or not.
I thought of using rubber 3/8" rope as well, but couldn't come up with good attachment points for it that wouldn't look hokey
04-07-2008 08:29 PM
 
 
xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

tlank, thank you for that
04-07-2008 08:32 PM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

There's an advantage to the springs. Folks who live near well-equipped hardware stores, or who know where stuff is online, will be able to try a variety of springs or spring material so as to optimize for any load.

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04-07-2008 08:33 PM
 
 
QuickSilver
Veteran
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

landing gear

How about just trying different thickness rubberbands even that I think would be cheaper then a spring. JMHO

Kyle

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
04-07-2008 08:38 PM
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umdpruKey Veteran - Location: Massachusetts -
Just like on a J-3 Cub



Notice the rubber bungees
04-07-2008 08:43 PM
 
 
Humpadump
New Heliman
Location: s bend alley

some rc car shocks would look cool.


How much does it cost to patent something like that? thx
04-07-2008 08:49 PM
 
 
umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

except RC car shocks/springs work under compression. this landing gear works under tension.

a bit of modification goes a long way though and you're right, it would look neat.
04-07-2008 08:59 PM
 
 
xgear
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon

hi guys, thankyou for all of the ideas. I've racked my head for the last 2 months trying to come up with the most feasable, durable, lightweight system, by the time that i weighed all of the options, the springs won, i spent a night trying to figure out how to hook up shocks to these and keep it looking good, the problem that i ran into was space and mounting possibility's without it looking like i just threw something together.
04-08-2008 08:37 AM
 
 
kfalls
New Heliman
Location: Klamath Falls, OR

They work

I have used the Spider Gear through several battery packs and find them to be very efficent and the extra weight, I welcome. The Trex flies about 50% more stable than with the stock gear.

And for the Gorilla gear users. I have broke a set of those when flying in 20 degree weather. Any plastic gear when it is cold will break. It wasn't even a hard landing, just cold and rigid.

I believe this is a good product and if you have doubts at least try a set or talk to those who have.

I also bought a set of the plain X-Gear landing gear. I liked them as well and the Rex still flys better. When the Spider Gear came out I wanted the extra cushion for my not so perfect landings.

04-12-2008 07:00 AM
 
 
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