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Scale Model RC Helicopters > FunKey Bell 222 50 Build Thread
 
 
ste1981
Heliman
Location: Voghera - Italy

Ok, of course, I will buy the Bell 222 fuse and try to install the mechanics. Then I will post any possible issues.

Thanks for your help, you'll be updated as soon as I'll start the job.

Stefano
04-15-2008 07:45 PM
 
 
tauscnc
Veteran
Location: IL : www.cuttingedgecnc.c om

It should fit well. As mentioned each heli needs a little different cut or mount but in the end it should fit well. The 600N I can tell you fits very well, boom, mechanics, etc and is a very good machine.

Before you go cutting the fuse make sure you figure out why your raptor 50 belts are breaking. This fuse will be built around ONE particular heli so make sure you know which you decide to put in there. You don't want to put one in and than figure you want another because you will have many holes, cuts, etc to patch.

taus
04-15-2008 08:44 PM
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ste1981
Heliman
Location: Voghera - Italy

Of course Taus, I will consider well which of two helis to use for my scale project before starting the job. Only when I'll be sure I'll cut the fuse to fit the mechanics.
Now that I've discovered the T-Rex 600N fits very well, I'm a bit unsure, I love it more than the Raptor...

Stefano
04-15-2008 10:11 PM
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

One thing I did notice after fitting a scale fuselage to my T-Rex 600, I tend to fly it a lot less than before. The thoughts of crashing it scares me more than when it was in pod&boom form.
04-15-2008 10:46 PM
 
 
tauscnc
Veteran
Location: IL : www.cuttingedgecnc.c om

Yep!!! I would put the heli that you fly less in the fuse...crashing it means fixing the fuse which is way more expensive in time and energy than buying a few parts for the heli.

taus
04-15-2008 10:50 PM
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ste1981
Heliman
Location: Voghera - Italy

I agree with Taus, to work on the scale helicopter is not so simple, it requires a lot of time.
And a crash would be the worst thing that can happens to you

Stefano
04-15-2008 10:57 PM
 
 
AIRPLANEDOOD
Heliman
Location: SALTLAKE CITY,UTAH

loooooking good jim,,,can not wait to see this thing doing 3D hovering... makes me want to skip work and fly

Team : wife
Team : Debit card
Learning helis One crash at a time!
04-16-2008 04:35 PM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

An update, finally.

I have been flying the Evo mechanics a bit, tracked down and fixed some vibe issues (thanks Mike), and plan on giving the mechanics two more weekends of flying before I begin putting them in the fuse. Here are some pics of the mechanics as they sit now:



This pic is of my "work stand" for putting in the retract servos, etc. Works quite well



Here is a pic of the front retract, which is now done



These last pics are showing the front reract setup. It took quite a while to get things right under there. Only use a couple of screws to put the retract unit in at first as you will probably be removing it a few times before you are done. I used the last hole on the Hitec servo arm that came with my HS225 servos. My endpoints in my DX7 are about 138 and 135. In order to get the servo to stop buzzing when in the fully down position, I did two things: First, you can see in one of the pis that I slightly bent the L arm towards the servo a few degrees, just enough to keep it from binding in the control arm slot.

Second, and most important - the geometry on the front retract setup is horrible. To counteract some of that, I screwed the L arm into the retract about 6 whole turns to bring it closer so the control arm isnt going almost parallel to get it to lock (which binds up the servo and causes the buzz). Now, doing this makes it so the retract will not go all the way up, so I opened the retract up and cut off the excess rod that was now sticking out the back of the cam. This allows the retract to operate perfectly again and have a slightly shorter L arm. (unfortunately I did not get a pic of this before putting it in). Now the L arm is better aligned with the control arm in the fully down position and I can get it to fully lock up and down without getting a constant servo buzz. If I were to do it again, I would even take the L arm in 2 more turns to get it a little better oriented, but its working great now, so I will leave it (If I do change it, I will take more pics). I hope to get the two rear setups done tonight now that I have learned a bit with the front one BTW - the JOMAR go slow works great!



All in all, I am having a great time so far and find fitting the retracts to be an enjoyable challenge. One more tip learned from these forums: Open all the retracts up and cut off any flashing on the internals. I also added a little silicon grease inside on the cam to help smoothen its movement.



Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
-Team RCHeliMag
04-23-2008 07:33 PM
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AIRPLANEDOOD
Heliman
Location: SALTLAKE CITY,UTAH

looks great...

Team : wife
Team : Debit card
Learning helis One crash at a time!
04-24-2008 12:58 AM
 
 
BrentC
Senior Heliman
Location: Utah, USA

Great work as usual Jim! Coming along nicely. Thanks for the detailed description of your retract install. Will come in handy when I get around to my A-109
BrentC

That can't be good!
04-24-2008 03:22 AM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

Thanks guys!

Finished up the retracts in about an hour last night. Here are some pics showing the bend I needed to put in the L arm for the rear sets, the bend goes towards the body.



Also, here is a YouTube vid showing them in action (the one that sticks a little in the vid has now been smoothed out) Very excited about this heli!!!



I think I need to speed them up a little - what do you think?



Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
-Team RCHeliMag
04-24-2008 04:09 PM
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tauscnc
Veteran
Location: IL : www.cuttingedgecnc.c om

Awesome awesome work!!

Thanks for the retract update, I will have to check mine soon.

taus
04-24-2008 04:23 PM
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doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

LOOKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks as if you have won the retract "battle".... they are a little tricky, but not too bad... and yours are looking real good.... and I agree that I would speed them up just a little....

Nice Job.... Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
04-24-2008 04:50 PM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

Thanks Stan, your helpful hints have done me wonders - Jim



Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
-Team RCHeliMag
04-24-2008 05:21 PM
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ste1981
Heliman
Location: Voghera - Italy

Very well done job, Jim!

Stefano
04-26-2008 12:32 AM
 
 
gadgetdude
Senior Heliman
Location: Southern California

It was my Maiden Flight today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I was not confident enough today to hit the retracts up, however, I did just take it outside for a little 'night' hover to see how the lights looked and I did put the wheels up.

WOW! This looks so great and looks even better flying!

Still have some things to finish such as windshield wipers, antenna's, etc.
04-27-2008 04:50 AM
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RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

Well done gadgetdude.

A little update:

Testing on the Evo has been going well, everything is pretty well dialed in now and the vibrations are at an acceptable level.

I am going to switch out to a JR 921rx with two remote rxs, a standard tt pipe, add my switchglo, and a 401 gyro this weekend and give it all a final testing. Went to a X9303 (thanks Mike) and now I have a spare channel for the switchglo and another for possible lights later on

I plan on at least gluing on the rear stab fins this week as far as the fuse goes, but everything else on the fuse has to wait until the mechanics are ready to test fit

Anyway, still having fun just flying the evo around and practicing slow, even approaches. Our buddy BrentC brought his new scale TT down last weekend and it was fun to watch him fly it around in the wind we had going.



Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
-Team RCHeliMag
04-30-2008 11:03 PM
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Elgreco
Heliman
Location: Montreal,QC-Canada

HeliJim, don't mean to hijack the post...

Great project. Have a similar going on but not as detailed like yours on Trexforums.
Here is a vid of my retract speed. Just have to work on a bit of humming from a servo when everything closed.



Trex 450/ 600, Sceadu 50, X9303
04-30-2008 11:23 PM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Key Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

I got the spars installed for the rear stabs. I used an old flybar marked to length to coat the bottom-inside of the boom with epoxy. I then coated the two spars and installed them making sure they stuck together and to the bottom well, I then added a little more epoxy inside and used tape to hold the spars in. Next time I will glue the actual fins on and use some tape and boxes to hold them in position until they dry.





Go Fly, Have Fun!!
-Team Quick UK
-Team RCHeliMag
05-02-2008 05:11 AM
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GrantL
Senior Heliman
Location: Springfield, MA

Just a reminder.. Sand the area that you're gluing. I used a dowel cut to length, filed a flat spot on the dowel, then glued some rough sandpaper on so I could reach in to sand the area.

Grant
05-02-2008 08:45 PM
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