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e-Century Hummingbird - Swift > Swift 16 Setup (Power to Weight Ratio)
 
 
ShaCho
Senior Heliman
Location: LA (Lower Alabama)

What setup are you guys running on your Swift for basic flying? My setup consist of a 600 plus motor (1100KV) 11T pinion gear, 6amp BEC, 80 amp ESC and 550 blades. What battery setup would you recommend...4S ~ 6S? I know increasing pitch to support the weight (battery) will decrease the runtime. Your opinion(s) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Aim High!
03-29-2008 08:25 PM
 
 
laughingstill
Key Veteran
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

On that motor use a 9 tooth pinion and a 6s 3300-5000 mah lipo and it will be awesome!

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03-29-2008 09:53 PM
 
 
oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Yes, I agree with laughingstill

That combo with the 6S Lipos mentioned is awesome if you want a hotter set-up. You will get a head speed in the mid 1900's and with 5000 mah packs about a 5.5 to 6 minute flight.

I have answered your PM with some other combos for more "sport" or "trainer" performance or longer duration.
03-30-2008 12:55 AM
 
 
ShaCho
Senior Heliman
Location: LA (Lower Alabama)

I really appreciate the recommendations. I definitely have a better understanding of the entire system. Thanks guys

Aim High!
03-30-2008 01:19 AM
 
 
Ravenhyper50
Senior Heliman
Location: Ottawa

Oldfart, can you post up the different configurations you know of with the swift with run times....I'm thinking of a new set up.

How good is the 600+ on 4 cell or 5 cell lipo?

I found this pack http://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...?idProduct=6353

But I rather use these packs http://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...?idProduct=6346 & http://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...?idProduct=6347
Zippy-R are rated a little better than Zippy -H

oh ...and what would be the best pinions for each setup TIA

MSH Protos 500, SWIFT 550 Carbon, Swift 620SE, DX-7, JR servos
03-30-2008 04:45 AM
 
 
eeeeky
Veteran
Location: Roosevelt UT USA

I found the best power system with the swift 16( that i tested anyway), to be the 600+, 80A esc, and a 9t pinion, with a 6s lipo...Heres a video of its power...
http://www.myrctoys.com/embedded-videos/swift-jpc.html

Thats with a 90% throttle curve..

with your 11t pinion, i would use a 4-5s lipo...but if you wanna run 6s, PM me your address again, ill mail you out a 9t pinion...

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James Linder
03-30-2008 07:09 AM
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centuryman
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Location: deerriver,mn usa

WHAT eeeeky SAID IS RIGHT ON. With i use is a 6s with the 1100 kv motor,80 amp castle phenix sc and 10 amp bec and amm getting 2250 headspeed and it is a rocket. the castle speed controller is the ticket.you can fine tune it to perfection and it gets you atleast 200 more headspeed and never even gets warm, not even when i was running 10 toth pinion at 2500 headspeed. however you can't have to much power so i'm going to try the 8s set up in mine . should net 4 hp with the neu 1907h/2y motor 675 kv so a 13 pinion should put me at 2200 . my new phazor 600 uses this setup and weeedoggy talk about power. in the swift it'll be 1.5 pounds lighter yet. can you say yeehaa. just hope i can keep maingears in it. the 13 pinion should help that problem i think.
03-30-2008 07:43 AM
 
 
eeeeky
Veteran
Location: Roosevelt UT USA

I found that with 9t and 100%, i could get 2450 RPM on the head with no load(zero pitch). I upgraded to all metal tail, and critical head parts, and up stepped to 10t...just over 2600 now...a ROCKET of a heli!

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James Linder
03-30-2008 08:27 AM
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centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

EEEEKY i was running the 10 pinion on mine and like you said what a rocket. but i need better batteries for that set up the new fp 3200 can pull 30c and 60c thats 96 and 192 amps that should work. i'm currently running the evolites 4270 with a 18c and 28c witch is 76 and 119 amps. they are fine with a 9 tooth but i was getting up to 165 degrees on the ten tooth. i just got a set of the 3200 30c 60c baateries for my new phazer 600 in an 8s setup if they work as good as i hope i'll order up some for my swift so i can go back to the ten tooth. i'm trying to keep it lite. the 4270lights are the same weight as the 37000 25c 50c .within a couple oz. i sometimes run a pair of 2170 3s for 2.5 minutes it drops a half a pound and it's a rocket but the batteries get hot. what is your battery of choice? or do you have deep pockets and let them run hot? I do run 14/14 pitch and i have backed down to keep the batteries cooler, but you loose that insane pop and what fun is that.
03-30-2008 12:20 PM
 
 
eeeeky
Veteran
Location: Roosevelt UT USA

I run an Airthunder 5000mah 25c pack...Its a little heavy, but with RT 560 blades, and that high headspeed, it pulls it like its nothing...im running 14/-14 too, with about 8 cyclic...the key to that much range is predator mixer arms...makes ALL the difference.

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James Linder
03-30-2008 06:36 PM
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centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

i'm assuming you are refureing to the aluminum ones with 3 holes on one end and 2 on the other. if so whats your prefered hole positions. i have a set of those arms on one of my ravens, if that's the ticket then i'll try them on my swift.
03-30-2008 08:07 PM
 
 
eeeeky
Veteran
Location: Roosevelt UT USA

i used the middle hole to the seesaw, and the inside hole from the swash...

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James Linder
03-30-2008 08:08 PM
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JustPlaneChris
Heliman
Location: Austin,TX - USA

And just to throw another alternative in the mix, I fly mine with 10S A123 packs (775g) and a Neu 1910/1.5Y on a 10T pinion. ESC is a Phoenix 45HV. This setup gives me 2000 rpm, 1300 watts, and 6+ minutes of plenty of performance for my flying style.

-Chris

03-30-2008 10:09 PM
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centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

Thanks EEEEKY thats the same combo i've found works best on my ravens, unfortantley it ends up being the same ratios as the stock mixers on the raven. with cost 10 bucks instead of 37.99. thats why i haven't put them on the rest of my fleet.if i'm not mistaken that would give you more pitch range and slow down the cycle response aswell. both of witch the swift could use espially at 2500 headspeed.on my ravens i can acheive 16/16 plus pitch witch is more then the hyper 50 can handle without lots of collective management and about 2400 headspeed. but my swift laughs at 14/14 so i will try a set of those arms. thanks for the idea. don't know why i didn't think of that.your setup with a ligter battery would be really awsome.once ive tested my 3200 8s pack in my phazor i'll probaly try a 6s in the swift. it should come in at 5.2 pounds.what is your run time at 80 % capacity with your ten tooth setup at 2600 on that 5000 mah boat anchor. how much pitch you running? when i whant flight time i fly one of my 12 nitros, ive got the eletrics for when i feel the need for extreme performance. witch seams to be very often latley. alot of dust gathering on those nitros.
03-30-2008 10:54 PM
 
 
eeeeky
Veteran
Location: Roosevelt UT USA

with the 5000, i get about 6 mins, at 14 degrees both ways...

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James Linder
03-31-2008 05:35 AM
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centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

swift 16 setup (power to wieght ratio)

I ran those new 3200 fp 30c/60c packs yesterday.They are the ticket if you whant power to wheight. Could barely get them up to temp doing medium 3D.They'r in a new phazor 600 so i'm taking it a little easy for a wile.But after the first few runs on that bettery i'm confident I can throw anything at those batteries and have no worries of over heating them.Especialy in the swift at 5.5 pounds on 530 blades
04-01-2008 01:08 AM
 
 
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