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Miniature Aircraft Nitro/Gas Helicopters > X-Cell 60 Carbon Fiber ??
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

Yes you could fly this with a 6 channel radio, You are just limited on the extras that you could put on it, but not needed to fly, like a gov. and sorts.. Almost all the bigger online heli parts places can and will have the MA line of products, and there are alot of them,, I get almost all my MA parts from www.ronlund.com or HeliProz South as it is now called, but any HeliProz will carry then, and alot of others too.. Just from what I could see in the pics, the right side front shroud is missing, You allready have the collective servo in there,, not sure what it is, but any 90oz of torque servo is a good one, then all you need is the roll and elevator servo, then gyro/servo, reciever, and battery,, that looks to be it,,, but it is hard to tell from just the pic's,, also, look at the mounting bracket for the muffler,, is it just not hookedup?? But where you live, it shouldn't be hard to get parts quickly, from the online stores.. Hope this helps.. XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-09-2008 07:10 PM
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xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

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That tail will not 3D
Thats not true,, I have flown my Xcell gas 3D with that same tail, Now I'm not saying that yours didn't break, as anything can go wrong, but that tail will 3D.... and yes the newer Xcell are even better, But there is nothing wrong with the Xcell 1004 99SE heli.. Nothing at all.. Really nice and smooth flying heli,,, XGM/VGM Also for $450.00 dollars,, that's cheap,, go find a Fury for that price...... not going to happen,,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-09-2008 07:14 PM
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TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

The muffler bracket is not hooked up. It looks like the boom support is connected were the muffler bracket needs to be attached.
04-09-2008 07:17 PM
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

the boom supports attache to the lower frame rails.. they are just in the wrong place.. XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-09-2008 07:26 PM
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TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

Any ideas how I would test the engine? Should I pull the motor and tear it down and inspect everything or put a new plug in it and fire it up? What % nitro do I need to use with the YS61? I looks like the owner put some after run oil in it but not sure how much fuel has been run through it. What type of starting wand do I need for this? I know MA uses a different type of wand. Thanks!
04-10-2008 01:43 AM
 
 
TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

One other thing. The engine is a YS61ST. Anything I should know about this engine? Thanks again.
04-10-2008 01:46 AM
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

Great engine,,, Just remember when you are done flying Let the pressure off your tank,, Be carefull, and don't get fuel in your eyes... But other than that,, YS is a great engine,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-10-2008 02:00 AM
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xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

I have several friends that are running 30% Cool Power,, as for the engine,, you might pull the back plate to see if you can see the bearnings.. Look for rust... Other than that, fuel and fly.. XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-10-2008 02:03 AM
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xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

As for how to start,, there is not a hex put on, so I would just get a hex to fit the starter shaft, then get a starter that has the bearning in it to start,, Or there are alot of other way to state it too.. Just ask in the MA fourm and I bet someone will help you out there.. XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-10-2008 02:05 AM
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Thomas L Erb
Veteran
Location: Alliance ohio

Hi guys!!! Im not trying to step on anbody toes but just for clairification the heli in the pic is for the most part a 1003 CT ( compitition trainer). It is the same airframe as the SE but the SE has a lot of upgrades. mostly which was the special tail slider assemb., metal tailbox, metal bladegrips and a few other parts. other than that it is a really GREAT flying machine!! crash parts are less then the SE. The tail slider is the only thing that is not CT. it is the old standard control. I have never had any trouble with one but the newer one is much stronger. I would ( if you buy it) check to see if the tail grips have the tripple bearings in them. hope this helps and good luck Tom
04-10-2008 03:08 AM
 
 
TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

Tom....Thanks for your feedback. Right now I'm kind of thinking this heli may be more work than I have time for and also what I'm ready for. I'm 50/50 on getting it. Its been at the LHS for over a month now and I thought I would inquire about it. The fact that is was an X-Cell helicopter got my attention. If I did get it, it still needs some parts that are missing or worn out, main blades (What size??), servo's, receiver, gyro and anything else that I may have missed. Any idea of a dollar amount that would take to get this in the air? Also, would I be able to get an offical manual for this helicopter from MA? Thanks!
04-10-2008 03:54 AM
 
 
TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

Well I think I'm going to pass on getting the X-cell. I have a Blade 400 that I still haven't flown and want to get proficient in flying before taking on new challenges. Part of me still just wants to get the X-cell and just let it sit and get parts for it to make it 100% and when I'm ready finish it with the radio gear and get it in the air. What do you think? Thanks1
04-11-2008 01:52 AM
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

What do you want to do??? That is the question,,,

For the price,, it's not a bad deal, but What does it Truly need to get it right, and how much will it cost to get it there,, ???? These are all questions that only you can answer,,, Sorry but I hate to tell you go for it, then you end up regretting me for telling you that.. I'm sure that it wouldn't cost to much to get into the air, except for radio gear, but I think your going about this the right way,, Learn to fly proficiently on the Blade 400, get all those dumb mistakes out of your system, Then,,,, Maybe buy something NEW, that you put together, and will appreciate allot more,,, How does that sound for Dear Abby??? XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-11-2008 02:07 AM
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TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

xcellgasman101 ...The unknown is how much it will take to just get the airframe back to 100%. I tried to look at the plans on Ron Lund site and printed them out but some of the part numbers are hard to see. Would I be able to get an offical manual for the helicopter from MA? I have experience building heli's. I built and setup a raptor 30 years ago that I ended up selling. Now I have 3 Blade CP-Pros and 2 Blade 400's. When I saw this X-cell heli at the LHS and the price he had on it, it caught my attention. "HO an X-cell helicopter. Those are good machines. $450 with engine and some servo's. Wonder if that is a good deal?". For $370 I can get a new TREX 600 nitro less engine, and with engine around $640. So the question that I'm asking myself is "what would be the benifit of getting this used X-cell?". Can you see any benifit in getting the used X-Cell w/engine for $450 over a new 50 size TREX w/engine for $640 other than a $190 initial cost? Thanks!
04-11-2008 02:52 AM
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

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Can you see any benifit in getting the used X-Cell w/engine for $450 over a new 50 size TREX w/engine for $640 other than a $190 initial cost?


Nope,, and parts for the Trex are going to be alot cheaper,, But I love the Xcell line, of helis.. There are the finest on the market,, Yes they are expencive to fix, and parts count is high, but when you fly one for the first time,, You Will Be Hooked,,, and for the money,, If your not in any hurry, and you can afford it,, Why not.. I'm sure you can get a manual from Xcell, Not positive, but pretty sure, If that bird was close to me, for that price, I'd buy it,, but thats me,,,, Now a 50 size nitro, is going to cost less to fly in fuel, and repair, and will be a bat out of hell, with a hyper,, Again,, I wish I could tell you what to do,, but,,,,, It's all up to you... There are good deals on Xcell heli all the time here on RR, and other forums,, So Probley be best to go with the Trex 600, and bash the crap out of it, then get a Xcell????????????
Who knows,, that heli might still be there is 6 months to a year????

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The unknown is how much it will take to just get the airframe back to 100%.
Very good question,, and I wished I was closer, I'd take a look at it for you and tell you what you need'ed, but maybe there is someone in your area, that could help you figure that part out????? And from just looking at the pic's,, NOT MUCH,, but that just what I can see,,, Bearning, shafts, balllinks, I can't tell from a pic,,,,,

Well good luck,, I know it is a hard decision to make,, Life is full of them,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-11-2008 03:18 AM
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Shadowfox
Senior Heliman
Location: ABQ,NM

Think of it this way XLgasman,

That 99CT heli is great for guys who know the ins and outs of the older XCells.

The TErollins would buy that nice heli and take it to the field and who do ya think he would run into once there? Guys like us who can actually help him with this Xcell or any pre 2005 heli?

Nope unless it says Align on the box, or they saw a online setup vid, chances are there is a certain type of RC flier at the fields today who just wont care.

Poor guy will hear "For a lil extra ya could got our brand of popular heli, just look around you"

"A .60? Why?"

"mCCPM swash controls, lots of slop"

"J.K. and Szabo designed our helis, thats good enough for us"

Maybe Im military and have travelled around to alot of RC clubs in a few States. That is what I have experienced.

I feel like a fella should fly what he brung, I can help with any make of heli. Largely thanks to my XCells, Bergens, Varios, Century.

TeRollins get a Raven or TT titan, or Pantera.

Buy the MA if like us, you can truely appreciate that xcell for what it was in its time, and its current potential.
04-11-2008 03:53 AM
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me...t_Code=MA0549-8

Cost $16.95 for just the fan shrould arms

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me...gory_Code=MA120
$140.00 Complete new style tail rotor setup..
Only if you wanted to upgrade the tail....

Also I looked at the pic's really hard, and the oneway valve for the YS engine is missing,, No biggie,, I wonder if the guy that ownes this heli, Has these parts????? Just trying to help...


Shadowfox,,, I agree, and Yes he should go to the local flying field, and see what others are flying, so as to be able to get some help..
I said in the above post I could not think of a reason not to buy a Trex 600,, I don't own one, but I'm sure they fly nice,, I do have a 450SE,, and it flys nice,,,,
I'm just trying to help him make up his mind, with this post as to what it might need,,,,


Well good luck with what ever your decision is,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
04-11-2008 04:25 AM
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TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

Shadowfox ....I appreciate xcell for the type of heli's they are. Since I started in this hobby back in 2001 I've always wanted a x-cell helicopter because they are known to be the top of the line helicopters and the fact that they are made in the great USA! Reason being why this 99CT caught my attention. Being that I've never owned an X-cell helicopter and the fact this model is an older model is why I'm asking so many questions about this one that is at the LHS. I don't belong to any local flying clubs so I don't know who's flying what. RR is my only resource for information and support if I need help or have questions.
04-11-2008 04:28 AM
 
 
Shadowfox
Senior Heliman
Location: ABQ,NM

Whatever ya choose we can help you with any questions.
04-11-2008 04:34 AM
 
 
TERollins
Senior Heliman
Location: Richmond, Va

Shadowfox....Thanks! So have we determined if this x-cell is a Xcell 1004 99SE or a 1003 CT? This will help when I call MA to see if I can get an offical manual. Another question I had was what type of flying was this helicopter made for, i.e. 3D, FAI, sport? I'm planning on going to the hobby shop tomorrow before work and take another look at the helicopter. Are there any other pictures you guys would like to see of the helicopter? With knowing that the helicopter is missing parts from the airframe and engine I might ask if the guy will take another $50 of the price to bring it down to $400. Thanks again!
04-11-2008 04:49 AM
 
 
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