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Got Jet Fuel? Turbine Helicopters > Lucky i only started it up in the garden today!!
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

Well i have been trying to get to grips with this machine for nearly a year now,

Apart from the LHr which i find really hard, plus my nervousness towards turbines i haven't had much success..

Well recently the tail has been kicking, i am flying it in HH in Idle up 1 and 2, in non idle up the tail is set to normal.

Well i started the turbine up in the garden this afternoon and again notice the usual tail vibration,(which normally disappears once the hover is reached, just every now and again the tail will kick,)
i went into idle up ( flight RPM) and was gonna just demo a hover...

But i am very glad i didn't, cos after i shut down the turbine and it ran its normal cooling down process, i carried it back to my workshop and noticed the tail pitch slider was loose and flopping all over place..

on closer inspection i noticed the bell crank had cracked and the carbon had just worn away, and had come off the ball link...

i have flown for nearly 4.5 yrs now and have never had a bell crank fail causing loss of tail control...

The worrying thing is on pre flight check it was fine, it was only under stress it gave up... fortunately i was on the ground...

I am not gonna slate the vario design, but does seem that key parts do really wear out when used in conjunction with a turbine,are they under more stress with a greater output from a turbine ?
or could it be that flying it in HH is over stressing the tail bell crank ?

i am using a 601 with the 9256, there is nothing wrong with the servo or gyro, this is pure mechanical fatigue, i have done nothing more than hover this, it was only last week i managed to pluck up the courage to fly it in a small hovering circuit.. i am really glad i did not do it today!

So if anyone has this conversion, i would recommend just check the bell crank,for flexing under load, better safe than sorry..



Matt



I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-24-2008 09:27 PM
 
 
S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

Whats with that coffee mug, holy crap!


sorry for the trolling!

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad
03-24-2008 10:30 PM
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

HA HA HA

thats where i crapped myself -

nah, it was a Kenco cappucino mix the wife made whilst i was fixing my hellie

Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-24-2008 10:56 PM
 
 
S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

lol

she does know she has to 'stir' it, right!

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad
03-24-2008 11:06 PM
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

come on she is a woman, all women know how to stir

ps intersting job you have, WOW, to work on full size all the time.

Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-24-2008 11:10 PM
 
 
S76 Mech
Elite Veteran
Location: Hatboro, Pa.

lol, thanks man!

I love what I do, can't complain, wait .... I'm a Mechanic, sure I can!

~ Rick
Them Sireens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad
03-24-2008 11:14 PM
 
 
heliman53
Senior Heliman
Location: Goose Creek,SC

Matt, Vario makes an aluminum reinforcement for the bellcrank for high load use, that is what I have on my Acrobat Turbine no chance of breakage now. Craig B
03-24-2008 11:25 PM
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

Craig

Do you know the vrio part number, cos i have looked at the Uk site and seem to be missing it...

I was gonna ask if a metal upgrade is available, but got sidetracked

thanks very much for posting

Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-25-2008 12:00 AM
 
 
JEEPWORLD2002
Key Veteran
Location: BLUEBELL PA USA

I have to say that does look thin and the ball and cup joint well is it a cup and ball or a fixed joint ? if it is fixed it will have less play but also make the joint fatige and wear faster. what material is the crank made of ?

Trex600n Trex500 Mikado LoGo5003d// Hacker, CastleCreations,Ys 50, JR 7703d/8900, Radix
03-25-2008 12:08 AM
 
 
Vario_UK
Senior Heliman
Location: UK

Matt
97/12
Regards
John.
03-25-2008 01:05 PM
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

Hi John

Thanks very much for the post and info...

Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-25-2008 06:37 PM
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

Maybe someone with experience of this set of mechanics could answer the question i raised..

Does flying in HH on a machine that was originally designed for the G22 gasser engine,cause unnecessary strain on the push rod and bell crank assembly when used in conjunction with a 2 stage turbine ?

Many thanks

Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-25-2008 06:40 PM
 
 
heliman53
Senior Heliman
Location: Goose Creek,SC

Matt, I fly my Acobatic gasser in HH with no issues, I am using a 601 and 9251. Craig B
03-25-2008 11:43 PM
 
 
MattJen
Elite Veteran
Location: UK,Gravesend, Kent

thanks Craig for the post,

It must of been just one of those normal wear and tear things...

Thanks for the post

To Diggindeap, as always anyone who is part of that certain group who does not have the guts to post under their proper name,and post an argumentative comment once again,you have been found and reported and blocked...
XPDNC who was also part of the same group,ruined completely, my "which turbine oil" thread, you all must have had a real sad childhood.. why is it always my threads and no one else's you have to come onto and post aggressive comments under an alias..


Matt

I bought my Mother-in-law a chair for xmas, but she wouldn't plug it in
03-26-2008 12:01 AM
 
 
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