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e-Minicopter Joker > Any flybarless setups?

fergus
Veteran
Location: Ireland

!!!!!JOKER2 FLYBAR FOR SALE IN THE CLASSIFIED SECTION!!!!!

Damn it Rosauro you know what I am like when I see bling like that. Especially when so well photographed and presented.

Just made the purchase

I am going to try out the Gyrobot on it so I will have the highest 3d capability with hovering stability for AP at the flick of a switch. Kind of like a cross between vstabi and HC rigid in one unit.. time will tell. Might have to wait a while for the gyrobot though but should be worthwhile

Regards

Fergus

Regards

Fergus

04-07-2008 10:31 PM

Gerd
Senior Heliman
Location: Vellmar/Germany

We will probably offer the Gyrobot when the tests with the Joker are finished (if successfull of course) and the (currently not finished) "smooth" or "beginner" mode is implemented in the software.
These tests with the Joker need 1-2 months from our side.

04-07-2008 11:22 PM

nooobs
Veteran
Location: Toronto, Canada

LOL... Told ya Gerd...

Fergus
First thing I noticed during transport was not worrying about the flybar... I usually get something hooked on it or bumped.

04-08-2008 04:16 AM

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littleman
Key Veteran
Location: state college pa home of Penn State

WOW,
I just looked at the lf-technik website, and that system looks really cool. A little pricier, than v-stabi(I think)but it seems amazingly small for all the electronics they crammed in there.
Fergus, congrats on the switch.
A.J.

Proud member of Teams Minicopter Acrobat and CYE
AIM minicopter3d with questions

04-08-2008 07:24 AM

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fergus
Veteran
Location: Ireland

Its just a bit cheaper than vbar.

A.J check this out:

http://www.rc-heli.de/board/showthread.php?t=63707

Regards

Fergus

Regards

Fergus

04-08-2008 01:05 PM

littleman
Key Veteran
Location: state college pa home of Penn State

Didn't Timo used to fly for Mikado?
The only thing that worries me about a 3 axis system is the tail part. Todays gyros (solid G/gy611) hold so well and have such a great piro consistency its hard for me to imagine a tiny system like that can do as good a job. However Timo's looked pretty solid.
A.J.

Proud member of Teams Minicopter Acrobat and CYE
AIM minicopter3d with questions

04-08-2008 04:33 PM

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fergus
Veteran
Location: Ireland

Looks good to me too. The spartan is a great tail gyro and is very small so this gyrobot may perform very well also. The entire package looks impressive.

The issue of good tail gyros in 3 axis systems was what made me stay clear of the helicommand and look for an alternative to begin with.

Regards

Fergus

Regards

Fergus

04-08-2008 05:15 PM

pyaresquared
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Arizona

What would be the downside of leaving your Futaba (or whatever) gyro on the tail and using your Gyrobot for pitch and roll? That's what I do with the Carvec.

Regards,
Steve S.

Surfin' the gravity waves

04-08-2008 11:43 PM

fergus
Veteran
Location: Ireland

Thats a good question Steve. I don't know if the 3 gyros 'communicate' as it were. I know the gyrobot has some advanced features which may incorporate the tail gyro but maybe not. After watching those vids I see know reason not to use the tail gyro in the gyrobot though.

There are two axis systems just coming to market for half the price which could be used but neither seem to have the 'horizontal hold' feature which I was after.

My trusty 601 will find a new home in another model no doubt.

Regards

Fergus

Regards

Fergus

04-09-2008 12:14 AM

trackhead
Veteran
Location: utah

So I just added a Joker to the quiver, and I like the idea and simplicity of flybarless systems. But some say it makes the cyclic more responsive............so, this seems like it would potentially be detrimental to smooth flight in aerial video scenarios. Or am I missing something? Just add more expo?

04-18-2008 01:35 PM

rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

With flybarless you have full control of the travels. You need less travel due to the responsiveness. With the HC you can fine tune it just like expo on the TX.

04-18-2008 02:07 PM

ThomasJoehnk
Senior Heliman
Location: Denmark, Copenhagen

Just ordered the flybarless head directly from Gerd for one of my Joker II's and also the vstabi unit (price just reduced). I will come back with my expirences...

Two Joker II's, MiniJoker, Acrobat SE (and a full size 90.000 cubic foot hot air balloo

04-18-2008 02:31 PM

tribologist
New Heliman
Location: S.Windsor, Ct, USA

Has there been a consensus developed for what is the best system for flybarless? Reliability is my primary requirement followed by the power reduction.

I'm looking at ordering one next week so it has to be a system that is on the market. It is for a "corporate" Maxi Joker so cost is not that important.

Ulf

07-18-2008 11:59 PM

nooobs
Veteran
Location: Toronto, Canada

Corporate? Cost not important? Heck, get either a Profi or Carvec...

07-19-2008 02:30 AM

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Seablade
Veteran
Location: floating around

Hmm...tribologist...stay away from natives with arrows

"Vini, Vidi, Velcro"

07-19-2008 03:55 AM

Seablade
Veteran
Location: floating around

Perhaps I'm thinking too much, but after seeing noobs photo of his head and looking at all that empty space,(no offense noobs

) there's got to be a way of fitting some of those small "button" type watch batteries and an LED light inside there! Seal them in a tube with a centrifugal switch...bling bling bling

"Vini, Vidi, Velcro"

07-19-2008 04:21 AM

nooobs
Veteran
Location: Toronto, Canada

You little... LOL

If I ever do some night flying with the MJ2 I'll probably have night main blades. If there is a 120mm size night tail blades then I'll get that too.

I'll also try to have navigation lights extended out on both sides with some sort of light weight rods. I just have to find lights bright enough that could be seen from a distance and still be able to tell color.

07-19-2008 04:30 AM

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Seablade
Veteran
Location: floating around

I haven't gotten around to trying out those neon lights I bought.
The ones I got were 6 inches long, but I know from their website they make 3 inch long ones in red and green.