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Compass Knight 50 > Wish i'd stayed with raptors!
 
 
rspblake
Senior Heliman
Location: London uk. coulsdon

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i can tell you that right now. Most of these threads are looked over by Rep. pilots and they are not going to say anything negative, in fear of the free gravy train being taken away.

Not true with compass!

Rbush

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I found out they were discontinuing the pro and only holding parts for the next 12 months

We will keep stock of parts for the pro till end 2009, although 85% are common still, and the factory said they will still hold!

We also hold the exchange kit to make it a 3d version, so customers don't get left behind in the model changes.

ROTORDISK
purchased in Malaysia, compass have been away in Germany about the time of the email..two three weeks you said? but they would of fwd it to climb-out to deal with and this posting are the 1st we know about it..

I am not going to blow smoke up your a... but if its our fault then compass do hold there hands up or help as needed..

I don't hold to the idea that hiding something is good for the product, and if you look at many post either here or rcheliaddict.. that is the case.

What I don't quite understand is that if a link has gone in a hover the blade would flap around but normally follows the other one allowing it to be got down it would not be the best landing but it gets down with some control.

Rob

epc2 i am sure rodney is dealing with this, sorry to here your probs!

(gunnell_s) still owes me money!
03-21-2008 01:14 AM
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Jamien9
New Heliman
Location: uk

ive had a link go on a raptor in the same way, came off at the blade grip, however, as rspblake has just said, all it did was go to zero degrees (cos it aero dynamic, and thats what it will want to do) and just gently fell out of the hover and landed it (albeit a little bumnpy, but in one piece). thats looks much more like its crash damaged, and that something else failed causing the damage.

i have a k3d with approx 10 gallons thorough it and have never had a failure like that, and i do tend to bash the sticks a little at times, so if it genuinely is a part failure id be very surprised, but id also be confident that compass (or climb-out in the uk) would sort it out

as has been said by others, do you think the likes of TT, Align etc would even read your e-mail, let alone reply on here, or consider replacing parts? i doubt it somehow....
03-21-2008 01:27 AM
 
 
Adey_Law
Senior Heliman
Location: Bournemouth, UK

Rotordisk, i sent you a PM can you reply to it please?

Ade
03-21-2008 12:45 PM
 
 
epc2
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami , Fl./S.Dgo.

Good to hear that UK guys are been taking care of , looks like Guys like Adey contrary to the US guys take care of their customers.

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epc2 i am sure rodney is dealing with this, sorry to here your probs!


I don't think so , I already tried with no success I don't think the dist. cares about this issue as you know it's easier to just blame us.

epc2.

Team My Wallet.
03-21-2008 02:41 PM
 
 
fr8brkr
Senior Heliman
Location: Asheville,NC

EPC2

Just replace your one broken link and ------MOVE ON.

Problems ? -- Mine are flown in fresh daily
03-21-2008 02:45 PM
 
 
epc2
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami , Fl./S.Dgo.

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EPC2

Just replace your one broken link and ------MOVE ON.


My friend Is not that easy and it wasn't just a link as you can Imagine a heli falling form 100 feet after a boom stike is not a pretty scenery so there a lot of parts to replace or maybe the whoel kit.

And the point is not to move on or not is that we had an issue and the dist. didn't care and at least I think we as customers deserve some service and not the attitude of inmediately blaming the user.

Anyway I just hope that this won't happen to any of you guys here and that if there's any issue someone will take care of you.

It's easy to say move on from the other side ahh.

epc2.

Team My Wallet.
03-21-2008 03:01 PM
 
 
fr8brkr
Senior Heliman
Location: Asheville,NC

What you seem to want is for the distributor and or manufacturer to replace all items that were broken as a result of a crash. If you desire to have someone say they are sorry for your unfortunate event then I will step up and say SORRY. I have crashed untold times some of which were parts failures and most pilot error. I have NEVER assumed that Align or Compass both which I have flown would be expected to replace all components that were damaged as a result of one isolated incident of suspect failure. The component parts used in ALL manufactured helicopters are subject to fatigue, stress, ect.

Problems ? -- Mine are flown in fresh daily
03-21-2008 03:23 PM
 
 
raptor50luvver
Veteran
Location: southampton UK

I will just pick up on a comment above and say that the support us Compass fliers get in the Uk is better than any other brand.

I am loyal to no brand in particular,i am just saying it as i see it.

Rob Blake has gone way beyond whats expected,he even hand delivered parts to my house because they got lost in the post and i was waiting for them,it wasnt asked for or and certainly wasnt expected but was greatly appreciated
03-21-2008 04:37 PM
 
 
jaxrotor
Veteran
Location: Jacksonville FL

Was the heli in its original condition, or were some parts changed for testing? Were the parts that were change meant to be for that model?

http://www.jaxrc.com
03-21-2008 04:51 PM
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rspblake
Senior Heliman
Location: London uk. coulsdon

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Rotordisk, i sent you a PM can you reply.. please?

Me too Ade, before I posted, might be away as its easter here!

Thanks for your comments Chris, its not always the case, but it better lost once and corrected mate..


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not be the best landing but it gets down with some control.

After a re-think, it is just as possible that it wouldn't come down with controls, So I was being a little unfair, 50/50 chance.. But you say you rebuilt the head, after a re-read, it was the 3mm bolt that broke, I cant ever break them in a crash, So my mind is thinking it dropped a link and the post jammed and broke on impact, is that a possible? Did you ream out the links?, I am not judging here just trying to see a end result! It just more difficult if I can't get a contact number!

Rob

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Did you ream out the links
my comment to people that ask is don't!, I have seen 1st hand how easy it is to be over the top with the supplied tool.

(gunnell_s) still owes me money!
03-21-2008 10:38 PM
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raptor50luvver
Veteran
Location: southampton UK

I have never liked reaming the ball ends out,i found the Compass ones pretty tight but i would rather let them wear in themselves,i found after about 3 tanks they had loosened up nicely.
I am not suggesting the supplied reaming tool is a bad idea,its just that i know personally that i would balls them up
03-22-2008 08:40 AM
 
 
3kidzheli
Heliman
Location: columbia, ms usa

knight 50 complaints

i would like to throw in my complaints about the k3d too... which happens to not be jack!!! if k3d hadnt came along and saved me from the crappy rappy 50 cause i had all but quit flying 50 class due to a NEVERENDING pile of issues with that (2 different) heli... now settle down rap guys i love the rap 60 i got a 70szh in it and would fight my mama over it and the 90 is great too...

Theirs no such thing as up, it's all out...
05-03-2008 03:56 PM
 
 
Adey_Law
Senior Heliman
Location: Bournemouth, UK

strangely i still have had no reply to my pm from rotordisk and he hasnt posted anywhere on RR for 44 days.

i guess it if looks like a troll and smells like a troll it probably is a troll.

why do people feel the need to make this stuff up?

Ade
05-03-2008 05:58 PM
 
 
moyesboy
Heliman
Location: uk

fr8brkr wanted to know what Aidy meant by centripetal force.

Centripetal force - the force that causes something to move in a circle rather than a straight line.

Centrifugal force, for the pedantic engineer, is a laymans term for a force that you seem to feel when the centripetal force is acting upon you - but the more pedantic the engineer is the more he will deny its true existance, for you feel the centripetal force toward the centre of the circle in the same way you feel the force on your back from your car seat when you accellerate your car - but somhow we talk about the centrifugal force flinging us out of the circle but not our car accelleration making us try to fall out the back of the car.

The centripetal force is pulling the revolving objects toward the centre of the circular motion. If the centrepetal force stops (such as the blade grip bolt falls out) then the part is not flung out radially from the centre, it just continues in a straight line at a tangent to the circle it was previously describing. For small circular motions this looks like it is directly away from the centre of rotation.

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then the centripetal force would have thrown the ball post.

Actually the lack of centripetal force would have allowed the ball post to revert to linear motion away from the assembly....being completely pedantic!
05-08-2008 04:25 PM
 
 
Rodney
Veteran
Location: Tavares,Florida

Question, can anyone tell me why we dont just use bearings instead of dampeners? Has anyone tried this and if so please post your results. Just as if you put a solid spacer instead of dampener your heli will explode in the air. That is a fact. If you get a damperner that is to hard the same thing will happen. Meaning the use of the K&B yellow dampeners. The ones that have been used and proven in the Compass Models Knight 3D is the GREEN ones when setup with the correct spacers and shims they work very well. There are no post or comments on anyone using the yellow dampeners and having good results with them in there Knight 3D. That is where the post about the dampening causing failures comes from. I can not warranty heli parts for failures when the heli was not even flown in stock form.
Sorry for your loss. Rodney

Dx7 With Ion Power Supply. Why use anything else.
05-08-2008 05:51 PM
 
 
the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

"Centrifugal force",, you know that happens to me from time to time, oh yeea, that's when the Demons come out of the walls, but the tiny white Pixies always appear and wave their gold wands and the Demons go away, then I go out and fly my Knight Sport and everything is alright !!

those Demons always try to get me to buy a Raptor, but I tell them I have a Raven and a Knight Sport and they are both better than a Raptor

Jim
the wife wont let me get a Monkey !!,,, damm, can't have anything
05-08-2008 06:23 PM
 
 
ezduzit
Heliman
Location: athens, tx. usa

I had quality issues with the knight as well....and i did go back to raptors....regardless of all the songpraising that goes on her for these birds they still have a ways to go in the quality department to get anywhere near what a raptor is....i had heard that they flew really and thus was my reason for purchasing....i only wish mine would have stayed together long enough to find out.
05-12-2008 08:10 PM
 
 
rspblake
Senior Heliman
Location: London uk. coulsdon

1) main gears stripping under very minimal load, 2)a severe shake in the tail that I could never resolve even after replacing many parts,3) the tail and horizontal fins were made of butter,4) the boom supports are flimsy,5) the spindle bent like wire, and 6).I had issues with the plastic in the linkage rods wavering

Saw a old post!

1) New Black gear was made to replace older style black gear, these are lots stronger and standard on kits or use a machined white one!
2) Thrust bearing being over sized caused a wag, many parts changed, shame not the right one it seems.
3) Use the 3d fins cheap to buy and better looking not quite butter.
4) Based on a standard design, what are you on about!
5) If you are flying a full 3d routine then the 8mm head can be fitted to the sport, 6mm spindle! the silver ones were replaced with a black harden type, there was a small number drilled wrong but for sport flying the 6mm works fine.
6) Not sure which problem you had. equal spaced surports is wrongly spaced, would think build issue

It takes 85% of a heli to be right and fly but 100% to fly right, each % closer to the 100 it gets harder..

In the 6 months since you had a sport the 3d version has gone though many improvements and most can be used on both.

I feel many of your comments are a old story that has been sorted and put to bed.. I for one like the sport, it been proved as a good work horse, ok mines got a white gear on the counter gear and on the main, its running a 8mm head on the plastic hub without a problem.

Why because its there to update and is not a bank breaker..

When your rappy boom strikes you will have to get the avab 8mm spindle designed by TT for it.. Ohh there is not one..

(gunnell_s) still owes me money!
05-13-2008 02:19 AM
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