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Women Pilots > SIM >>>Hovering issue.
 
 
HeliWatcher
Heliman
Location: Land of sky blue Water!

Okay, I need some help.

I am learning to hover on the SIM before I take my T-Rex out for the first time. My problem is, I am actually better at flying on the SIM than I am with hovering.

What am I doing wrong? I know how important it is to learn to hover, and I practice daily...it's somewhat frustrating.
03-07-2008 09:13 PM
 
 
PJRono
Senior Heliman
Location: Ham Lake, MN - USA

Prolly having problems because when you are flying you are telling the heli where to go. When you are hovering you're correcting it to go the other way than the way it's going.

The Crappie Flop is my favorite dance!
03-07-2008 11:12 PM
 
 
Steamy
Senior Heliman
Location: UK

hovering is NOT Easy

you have to be abel to hover tail in, right side in, left side in and nose in

i would leave nose in till you have the others trained into your brain ,nose in is harder as its all in reverse,(check out my gallery for a good tip 4 nose in)

i know it can get kind of boring just practicing hovering BUT its just traing your brain ,so when you go out you dont think of how to hover your fingers just do it,like riding a bike

because when you think about flying when your flying thats when you crash,but hay thats part of the fun lol

just try to stay as calm as you can and you will fly better


and you only need to hover to land so just take off and hover for 3 secs then land and keep doing it ,,sounds like you heve the heli bug so it wont be long befor you get it down and hovering will seem so easy

ooh my god ,, i spent all the shopping money on helis DOH!!
03-07-2008 11:46 PM
 
 
dlv129
Heliman
Location: usa

Stay persistent, hovering is like dancing on ice, once your mind understands the physics it all falls in to place, i hate to say it but practice makes perfect.

Rotor Head Dan
03-08-2008 05:37 AM
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leslie
Key Veteran
Location: Hollis, NH - USA

Hi Heliwatcher,

As others have said, be patient. Hovering was once explained to me as; trying to run with a marble placed on a plate of glass, trying to keep the marble in the center.

Cheers,
Leslie

Protecting those who protect us
03-16-2008 03:14 AM
 
 
Butch
Veteran
Location: New York

Setup?

Could be the Heli needs some tweeking, possibly the Radio also.

Linkages including all pivot/swivel points must operate smoothly with NO binding.
Slight Exponential radio settings can be of help to offset "over-controlling" while learning to hover.

Just a few thoughts about things that can make a fiesty heli a bit more user friendly at the beginning.
Keep at it!

The Whirlybug Bit Me!
03-21-2008 08:46 PM
 
 
HeliWatcher
Heliman
Location: Land of sky blue Water!

Quote 

Could be the Heli needs some tweeking

Nahhh it's just me. My BF is an experienced expert heliman and he has done all the programming and set up for me. He has MAD SKILLZ!

Practice makes perfect...or at least that's what they tell me.

Warming up here soon, snow melting...getting close to take her up for the first time. Nervous excitement for that day to come.

~Thrillseeker~
03-27-2008 09:59 AM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

Quote 
getting close to take her up for the first time.
Before every successful heli landing is a brief hover, so it would be a good skill to perfect before flying your heli. The exception is a sliding landing but you don't wanna do those with a T-Rex 450, especially if you installed the squishy rubber skid protectors on the LG.

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03-27-2008 10:04 AM
 
 
Pacific Models
New Heliman
Location: Australia

G'day HeliWatcher,
All great suggestions above, have tried most of them for sure.

Exponential will be a great "hider of demons" in the early days, you will soon feel when you want a more immediate response from your heli and can back it off accordingly.

Something that also worked for me is make 1 of the control movements available, an autmatic action to correct; ie: If u'r practicing hovering with nose away from you, whenever that tail starts to drift L or R, just bring it back without having to think about the action.

Whether its Pitch, Yaw or Roll, experiment with all the movements and see which one is easiest for you to grasp.

Then at least you only have 12 other ground/air effects to really stress about!

Oh yeah...and when buying a spare part, buy 2
03-27-2008 10:19 AM
 
 
macsgrafs
Senior Heliman
Location: Barnstaple, Devon, UK

My motot is get out & fly it. I'm a newbie, been out with my mini titan twice, hover breifly then push it forwad & fly it, that way you can home wanting to do it all again, including the hover. I use phoenix, in fact I have used phoenix for 20 odd hours & flown 4 battery packs though the MT.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua63baNLlGE&fmv=18

Regards
Ross

Seems to me that ALL heli's beat the air into submission
03-27-2008 01:31 PM
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speeddemon370
Senior Heliman
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

It seems like you're getting alot of advice without covering the basics. I learned how to hover my first cp before I even got a simulator. Put some big training gear on and give it a shot. Try not to get more than a couple inches off the ground at a time so you can chop the throttle in an emergency and not cause any harm. If you have a garage or clear flat backyard you're golden. I'd reccomend doing it close to home so you can get excited and recharge your pack and repeat. We all know that hovering in a sim is boring but if you can't hover nose in side/side and tail in you're gonna crash big time you're first time up. Now when you're that close to the ground you're going to have "ground effect" which will make the heli even more twitchy and it will almost never stay in one spot by itself. It's GOOD PRACTICE that way! Don't get addicted to getting high enough that you're out of ground effect because you'll just be cheating yourself out of the learning experience. (plus you'll suck at landing) Don't be afraid to spool down and straighten the heli out or manually place it back in position if you get too close to a fence/wall and most importantly, you should be able to maneuver around the backyard or large garage FULLY before trying anything but tail in.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
03-31-2008 01:05 AM
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Pacific Models
New Heliman
Location: Australia

Here, here.......Well said, all true!
03-31-2008 01:18 AM
 
 
PJRono
Senior Heliman
Location: Ham Lake, MN - USA

You don't know it but Heliwatcher lives in the north where there's still snow on the ground. As soon as it clears I'm sure she'll get her shot at it!!!

The Crappie Flop is my favorite dance!
04-03-2008 05:20 AM
 
 
speeddemon370
Senior Heliman
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

HAHAHAHAHAHA, Snow on the ground in the northern states. Sorry but I think you guys are a little better off than me. I have at least a foot of snow in the shadier spots of my yard. (check my address) I could only wish for montana weather. Anyways, parking lots rock because they are always shoveled and a good double garage is always great for hovering practice. She's not going for loops, it's hovering practice. If you are going to go outside I find the servo's really start to slow down at about -5deg Celsius (sorry, i don't know the farenheight conversion) but other than that you're golden as long as you let your gyro acclimate a bit. If you have an industrial area nearby an early sunday morning drive usually yields an empty yet clean parking lot. Oh, and the heli will skid on the ice quite well but try not to slide too much. One stray ice chunk or embedded rock and you get a tip over promptly accompanied by ice shrapnel. Ah the joys of winter. I hate the weather but it's fun to drive in.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
04-03-2008 05:51 AM
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PJRono
Senior Heliman
Location: Ham Lake, MN - USA

Ya, I hear ya but it's starting to warm up here now and we can see the ground. So she's hanging on for the warmer weather. It's sucks to be shaking from the cold and from trying to fly a new heli!

The Crappie Flop is my favorite dance!
04-03-2008 05:53 AM
 
 
HeliWatcher
Heliman
Location: Land of sky blue Water!

Keep the tips coming folks!

And like PjRono said, I'm SURE it's no fun to shake and shiver and try to fly a new heli. I'll definately wait for a good 50-60 degree day!

~Thrillseeker~
04-03-2008 07:13 AM
 
 
NoShoes
New Heliman
Location: King of Prussia, PA

This is going to sound stupid but it worked for me. The idea of hovering nose in was just weird and telling myself that the controls were reversed some what worked. When i went nose in and turned it 45 degrees more, I was all messed up. It wasn't until I tricked my mind to always think I was sitting in the heli. Once i felt like I was driving it, all directions of hovering and flight started to get easy. Now I'm not sure how it works, my thumbs just do what I want it to do.

Hope its somewhat of a help. If not, just do what works for you, its really just a matter of repetition. I'm still not very good, but hovering is something i can safely say that i do well at.
04-03-2008 10:11 PM
 
 
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