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Aerobatic FAI F3C Contest > raptor 90 fuse
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

Is there a FAI fuselage available for a raptor 90? I'm concerned about pitch arm clearence.

Don Thomas
03-02-2008 02:24 PM
 
 
Lee O'Dell
Heliman
Location: Pleasant Garden, North Carolina

Maybe you could inquire with Colin Bell on the details. This is a Raptor 90 in a Blackshark. Not sure if it is a Black Products or a knockoff.
Sure looks great though.











.......so easy a caveman can do it.
03-02-2008 11:32 PM
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RCHelicopterGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

That's an Uncle Irwin Backshark copy. For around $100-140, Colin said it wasn't bad. Granted, it's no Black Products fuse...

I think it's a copy of the first generation, too, but I'm not positive.

I'm taking a wild guess here, but I don't THINK the collective arm on the Raptor is THAT big a deal. I'd take a guess that you could fit it into a Gracey, Blackshark, or Staysee with minimal hassle. The question is, do you want to spend the money? Staysees are $750 at Cyberheli.
03-02-2008 11:35 PM
 
 
CBell
Senior Heliman
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Like RCHelicopterGuy said above, it's a copy of the Black Products Black Shark. Although it's not of excellent quality I'm pretty happy with my purchase. It was worth the $140ish, and was great for a first full fuselage. I would have hated to make the few mistakes I did on a $700 fuse. The canopy fit wasn't perfect and I learned the hard way to use fairly weak masking tape. The blue 3M tape will peal the gel-coat off the fiber glass. The Raptor was a drop in fit, the boom lines up perfectly in the fuselage with the frame legs mounted directly to the "floor".

I did have to do a little bit of grinding on the plastic collective tray, but it wasn't major.

If I were to do it again I'd probably go with something similar, but I wouldn't purchase it from HHI/QWW.

Colin
03-02-2008 11:49 PM
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

I'll PM Colin For more info.
thanks

Don Thomas
03-02-2008 11:50 PM
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

Colin, you beat me to the button. Where can I buy one of these fuselages?

Don Thomas
03-02-2008 11:53 PM
 
 
RCHelicopterGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

http://www.ewtech.com/Merchant2/mer..._Code=Fuselages
03-02-2008 11:55 PM
 
 
nighttrain
Senior Heliman
Location: Louisville KY

Careful. Those 60 size fuses are too short for 90 size booms.
03-03-2008 01:10 AM
 
 
RCHelicopterGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

Tell it to Colin. Video above, 710mm blades, 90-size boom. (Granted, I think his tail gearbox may stick out an extra inch or so...)
03-03-2008 01:30 AM
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

Ordered fuse tonight. We'll see on the length. I have both standard and short boom 90's. Would rather use the long boom if it fits.

Don Thomas
03-04-2008 03:13 AM
 
 
f3c flyer
New Heliman
Location: Jinan China

It is perfect body indeed!
It is so valurble!!
Could anybody tell me how to order the Copy blackshark body,
I want to buy !!

FAI F3C flyer.
03-04-2008 01:41 PM
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

Use the link RCHelicopterGuy posted. Worked great for me. Will be here Thursday.

Don Thomas
03-04-2008 10:54 PM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

Do us a favor and take good measurements before you start into it much. I'm interested to see if it will fit my Caliber 90.

Cheers,
03-05-2008 01:02 AM
 
 
CBell
Senior Heliman
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Be Careful

Be careful when dealing with QWW. I just received a package from QWW, and to my surprise the product was not as advertised. Long story short, I was treated like garbage. Despite my efforts, I couldn't have a civil conversation with Irwin. Don't expect any product support or returns from HHI/QWW. I guess it was just a matter of time before I got bitten

Just a heads up,

Colin
03-05-2008 04:45 PM
 
 
RCHelicopterGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

I find that so very hard to believe.
03-05-2008 07:21 PM
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

Lets get the story correct

We are making a great effort to improve our customer service, so I find it personally offensive when someone goes bashing us without giving the whole story first, so here we go.

First of all, we have sold thousands of these to raptor owners who have never had a problem. Second of all, there is a big picture right on the shopping cart of all our canopies. The only difference is that in the picture we had cut out the bottom front, which is an easy 2 minute process. This is specifically not cut out by us due to it weakens the canopy and therefore compromises its ability to be shipped without breaking.(which we learned the hard way!!) Shipping companies are hard on packages and we can't risk shipping this canopy pre cut or else everyone received by the customer would most likely be cracked. If this was confusing for you, all you had to do is ask. Unfortunately, with so many being sold, we made the assumption that the customer would realize this or call if they were confused.

You contacted me this morning, and I said go ahead and return the canopies, you agreed and I thought that was the end of it. However you call again, inquiring into who is paying shipping cost. Since you decided to return them although they are from the same mold as a stock raptor canopy, we don't feel it is our responsibility to pay for shipping.

As for product support, you never even asked for any help. You basically called and said "I am returning the canopy", before I could even ask you what the problem was. I can't give customer service if I can't get a second to offer it. As for returns, we readily accept returns for exchange or if there was a problem on our side with the product. With thousands of people using these canopies, we don't see where the problem is.

You weren't bitten by anyone, and if you just gave me a minute I could of told you the solution. I further have to question your motive for posting this on a forum that has nothing to do with QWW. I am sure I can wave the restocking fee, however we are not paying the shipping cost when we shipped the correct canopy. For the future, please ask before assuming things, and this whole ordeal could have been avoided.


Chris

We offer 100% support and service for all of our products.
03-05-2008 08:18 PM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

OK, well now that you're here...does that thing fit a Caliber 90 ver06?

What weight glass is it made from?

Thanks,
03-05-2008 08:25 PM
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

Does it fit?

The blackshark will fit your caliber 90. As for weight of glass I wouldn't have that info. I can measure the physical thickness of the glass if that will help. It weighs in at 1.4lbs.


Chris
03-05-2008 09:13 PM
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

Got the fuse today. It was packed very well with no damage. Looks good for the money. I bought the painted version although I would have rather painted myself but have no time right now. I have to finish a couple other projects before I start installation. I'll post how it goes.

Don Thomas
03-07-2008 12:57 AM
 
 
donthomas
Senior Heliman
Location: gibsonville, nc usa

I got started on the fuse installation tonight. The instructions are just about nonexistant, but none are really needed. Really not too complicated. There is a ply floor that has to be glued in. I used it as a guide to get the main frame in the right place. Some fitting will have to be done where the tail box goes inside the rear of the fuse. The vertical fin bosses will have to be removed from the tailcase also. Thats about as far as I got tonight. So far so good. More later.

Don Thomas
03-15-2008 03:08 AM
 
 
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