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CAD - Engineering - Technical > Milling delrin - any tips or tricks?
 
 
jrvander
Senior Heliman
Location: Mystic, CT

I've got a chunk of grey delrin that I want to mill out a set of landing gear brackets for a 30 sized electric. Does anyone have any experience cutting delrin with respect to feed rates, tool speed, etc.? I'll be using a vertical mill with 4-flute cutter. I imagine feed rates would need to be slower to prevent melting at the tool tip, but will you get a better finish with a faster rpm? Thanks in advance!

- Jon

Celery raw develops the jaw, but celery stewed is more easily chewed!
02-28-2008 09:58 PM
 
 
Greg McFadden
Key Veteran
Location: Spokane Valley, WA

my local plastics supplier suggested I take speeds/feeds for aluminum and multiply by 4 and keep it cool. Unfortunately I don't have that kind of HP on my itty bitty little mill. I get a good finish when I run the spindle at about 5k and the feed rate up about 20ipm for a 1/4" diameter 2 flute cutter (which is about as fast as I can run). Some of our suppliers (for where I work) that I have worked with quite literally run as fast as they can (both spindle and feeds) with air or water cooling, but I can't recall the exact numbers

You might want to check, if that is a fiber filled delrin you may have more problems.

here is an exerpt from the machinery's handbook, 26th edition:

Milling of Plastics: Peripheral cutting with end mills is used for edge preparation, slotting
and similar milling operations, and end cutting can also be used for facing operations.
Speeds for milling range from 800 to 1400 ft/min for peripheral end milling of many thermoplastics
and from 400 to 800 ft/min for many thermosets. However, slower speeds are
generally used for other milling operations, with some thermoplastics being machined at
300–500 ft/min, and some thermosets at 150–300 ft/min. Adequate support and suitable
feed rates are very important. A table feed that is too low will generate excessive heat and
cause surface cracks, loss of dimensional accuracy, and poor surface finish. Too high a
feed rate will produce a rough surface. High-speed steel tools (M2, M3, M7, or T15) are
generally used, but for glass-reinforced nylon, silicone, polyimide, and allyl, carbide (C2)
is recommended.

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02-29-2008 01:51 AM
 
 
Peefor
Veteran
Location: St Albans UK

Jon

The biggest problem with machining plastics is keeping the tooth-load high enough. I would start with a 2 flute, if that's causes problems try a single flute.

It all depends on what your machine is capable of as regard feed and speed.

Pete
02-29-2008 07:25 PM
 
 
jrvander
Senior Heliman
Location: Mystic, CT

I'll be using a 1/2" or 5/8" 4 flute carbide cutter on a 1hp hobbyist mill/lathe, probably around 500rpm. I'll see if I can find a two flute cutter but my 4 flutes are all newer and sharper. THis is a reletively simple shape to cut with lots of room to get rid of excess waste plastic.

Thanks for the help with this, I'll post my results when I'm done.

- Jon

Celery raw develops the jaw, but celery stewed is more easily chewed!
02-29-2008 07:45 PM
 
 
busted blade
Senior Heliman
Location: orlando,florida

tip;
if possible make all your cuts about .005" big then go back and make your finish pass.

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03-01-2008 05:23 AM
 
 
marked23
Veteran
Location: Lynnwood, WA

It's been a long time for me... and my expereince was with lathes.

I always used a water based flood coolant for a good finish.
03-01-2008 06:51 AM
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

Delrin is very nice to machine. Very sharp tools and don't let it get too hot.

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03-01-2008 10:55 AM
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syon
Heliman
Location: tualatin,OR

milling delrin

As i sit here and read, after working all day at the job, where we use 5 axis haas mills and lathes-

And we cut delrin, ALLLLLL dayyyy longgg..

our bits run anywhere from 1200 rpm to 12000 rpm-
and out delrin loves the lower end speeds of 2000 rpm, with cooling air aimed at the bit- it serves 2 purpose- removes the chips, and keeps the bit cool enough to keep on cutting.

The interesting part about all this reading is, i see some run the rpm higher- for what?.. from the machinist hand book?... those are hard metal numbers, aluminum, SS and the likes.
Delrin is a very durable plastic, and cuts like butter around 2000 rpm, and if you are in no hurry, 12 IPM is a good starting point, but if you want to blaze through a part making session, then higher rpm, more HP and more IPM would help.

Delrin works best when cut with a 2 fluted bit made for aluminum, reason being, it gets the chips out of the way quicker, and keeps the bit cooler.
JMHO.
trust me, i know....

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03-12-2008 02:00 PM
 
 
jrvander
Senior Heliman
Location: Mystic, CT

Thanks again for all the tips. I found a new sharp 2-flute cutter at 500rpm to be best for my application on a hobbyist mill. Also, the tip on coming back for the last 0.002 was helpful for a nice finish cut that polished the surface. I played with a 4-flute cutter and it was rough, tended to leave a roughened surface. Medium sharp bits were the worst, they gummed up the cut and left alot of flashing on the edges.

- Jon

Celery raw develops the jaw, but celery stewed is more easily chewed!
03-12-2008 08:21 PM
 
 
sp1nm0nkey
Senior Heliman
Location: Redwood City, CA

I use high helix 3 flute carbide cutters at around 3000 rpm. Delrin isn't picky at aaalllll. Like the earlier guy said, sharp tools and don't get it hot. 4 flute cutters should be fine too.
03-22-2008 01:35 AM
 
 
b0gh0s
Senior Heliman
Location: Glenview (North Suburban Chicago)

I found that a constant air stream blowing across the cutter to help clear chips and keep cool helped on my small mill. I just hooked a hose up to my compressor and set a regulator for the right volume....

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04-16-2008 09:53 PM
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