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QuickWorldWide Ep and Wet Fuel Helis > The Pepsi Challenge!!!
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

We have a octane dominator 20 sitting here in the shop that can tested by any capable pilot. We will even send it to you to fly and test. The only catch is that you assume responsibilty for the heli until you ship it back to us. If you crash it due to pilot error this is something we can't control no matter how well a heli is built, however you will be amazed at just how well the heli can hold up to crashes. Or better yet, since the building of the kit seems to be the issue, we will send out a kit for you to build if you wish to get first hand experience as to how the kit really is. I am not going to get in an arguement about both of the Oz's kits and what was done with them. Instead, we put our money where our mouth is. Want to see for yourself, PM or email us and we will be happy to accomodate!! Become one of the many people who have built our kit without issue. After all, see is believing!!

Chris

P.S. In the unlikely case you would have a question during assembly, our staff is here to offer 100% support. All we ask is we are treated with the same demeanor you would expect for yourself.
02-28-2008 09:43 PM
 
 
Eury
Elite Veteran
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

I'll take you up on your offer and build a 20cc kit. I sent you a PM, we'll get this worked out, I'll do a big build thread and let people know how the kit actually is. I've certainly had my issues with QWW, so I think people would trust my assessment of the kit.


Nick Crego
Never trust a big butt and a smile
02-28-2008 11:35 PM
 
 
bayselec
Heliman
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Hey Eury,
Want to see some video of it flying as well.
Also why not do the review on the new batcopter version of the 20cc heli.
No point looking back IMHO.

Spectra G, TRM 231, Hatori 957....Trex 600N Pro....Logo 600 3D, Z50-800
02-28-2008 11:59 PM
 
 
ozace
Key Veteran
Location: melbourne, australia

I cant wait to see where i went wrong, please let Nick do it.

we can never have too many, can we ?
02-29-2008 12:03 AM
 
 
RaptorEngineer
Heliman
Location: Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

Its easy

Very good offer...

It’s easy when you don't need to pay.

I'm sponsored for many years in recognized sport and I know that ALL if different if it’s free... everything is “good”!

I guess that it’s more confidence and credible for new customer if QWW found a client that was paid for their Dominator 20 and be happy with their investment. That can show and demonstrate with evidence that bough, assembly and flow the Dom20 without any big issue compared with other competition models. Also can share their experience about machine advantages and all good thinks about them, without thinking of received anything back (from QWW).

This offer (Pepsi challenge) is VERY good if was announced before lot of really bad exposure on this model occur... now looks like a trick.

Any real Dom20 owner can predict what the challenge winner will write and said...(It’s easy when you don't pay).

Good luck EURY

Make ideas into realities...
02-29-2008 12:10 AM
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RaptorEngineer
Heliman
Location: Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

Please don't closed this posting

Please don't closed this posting too, for my add...

Make ideas into realities...
02-29-2008 12:11 AM
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shuttlepilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Mullins, South Carolina

Quote 
It’s easy when you don't need to pay.

I'm sponsored for many years in recognized sport and I know that ALL if different if it’s free... everything is “good”!

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Any real Dom20 owner can predict what the challenge winner will write and said...(It’s easy when you don't pay).

You don't want the thread to be closed, but you already started imposing the way this thread will lead with your posts...

So, could we please keep this thread as an INFORMATIVE thread instead of the usual......"you didn't have to pay, so of course it will be fine" type of thing.

Gas is Great
Quick OD 26
02-29-2008 12:23 AM
 
 
Chris Paul
Heliman
Location: Coopersburg, PA

Not closing

Like I said to you in a PM, only the moderator can close forums. Anyway we feel this is the best way to get the real story out there. I can't see how we could be any more accomodating. This offer is lay to rest all the "bad exposure" and to let people see what the deal is for themselves. We can care less who takes up the offer, all we ask is a fair and honest assessment of the kit. It seems that Eury may be the first contestant, and if you read previous post I am sure you can see that were not all buddy-buddy. I guess no matter which way or who builds the kit, there will be someone to question the results. We have laid all the cards on the table, if people choose to take the conspiracy route there isn't much more we can do. Also, whether the kit is paid for or free, it is still the same kit from the same production with the same parts. We don't have a free version and a paid version.


Chris
02-29-2008 12:31 AM
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Eury
Elite Veteran
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

Guys, Irwin and I are talking, and there'll be an Octane Dominator 20cc kit on the way to me shortly. Like many of you who know me, I'm not a QWW fan, I've previously owned one, and while it flew well, the construction and parts quality was not what I would consider good. I'm an experienced builder who builds carefully with calipers and a dial indicator, but I'm also pretty critical of substandard instructions and parts (just read my review of the RJX Xtreme 50 in the RJX forum).

I'll give the heli a fair shake, build it up according to the instructions, and post pics and a video when I am done. I'm not saying I'm better than our friends from the land of OZ (far from it), but rather, I'd like to give the QWW guys a fair chance, but with my previous experiences I'm not willing to put my own cash on the line. Basically, I'm skeptical, just like everyone else in this forum it seems, so I'll build one up and we'll all discover together how a QWW heli builds and flies. Hopefully it'll be here next week and I'll get a chance to get started on it. I'll be honest, I've got high hopes, if they are willing to send me a kit to try out, they must believe in it. Be skeptical all you want about what I'll say, the time I'm going to put into building and setting it up is worth far more than the kit. I'll give it a fair assessment.


Nick Crego
Never trust a big butt and a smile
02-29-2008 12:41 AM
 
 
tr0cks
Heliman
Location: philadelphia, PA

what a joke. anything happens to heli it will not be helis fault. and thats a gaurantee i'll put my money on. anything to jam up peoples pockets. this is snake move.
02-29-2008 12:51 AM
 
 
ozace
Key Veteran
Location: melbourne, australia

Eury, i dont believe you can be bought. I am really looking forward to your findings. Please show us lots of pics when you do it.

we can never have too many, can we ?
02-29-2008 12:52 AM
 
 
Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

HERE'S A CHALLANGE FOR YOU RAPTORENGINEER

Please post your issues along with supporting pictures of the 20CC. You issues will be handled at once. If no one relpies then QWW staff will post. Any parts shown with defection in manufacturing will be replaced for free.

If we can not get you machine flying like a QUICK does we will buy it back.....
Any one else have issues...POST IT!

PLease you Aussie's as well.

Let em' fly

QWW
02-29-2008 12:56 AM
 
 
AzHyper
Veteran
Location: Az.

Nick - you need to receive a kit not specifically boxed by the vendor for the purpose of this review. QWW needs to send you the coupon and you need to get a kit off the shelf of some shop that can't bias the quality of the components. This needs to be a blind build or there will always be speculation.
02-29-2008 01:02 AM
 
 
Eury
Elite Veteran
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

I'll build and review the one they send me, and tell you guys what the kit I got is like. I don't BS people, and we'll all just have to accept that QWW is going to send me a regular kit. We'll all have the answer on the quality of this heli soon enough, just waiting to hear back from Irwin on the email I sent him to button up the details.


Nick Crego
Never trust a big butt and a smile
02-29-2008 01:12 AM
 
 
Chris Paul
Heliman
Location: Coopersburg, PA

Negativity

Once again tr0cks offers absolutely nothing to the conversation. We offered to help you and you couldn't be mature enough to accept, so why do you continue to take out your personal shortcomings on us? For people like you, we could find someone off the street and video tape them building the kit, and you would still be crying wolf. As for being a snake, you're the one biting at our heels, not us at yours. I think your agenda shows through well in the previous post you have posted. Our offers here are to let people see for themselves our quality. In fact your machine let here in perfect working form with everything built perfectly. Whatever happened after the 11 or so flights we will never know, but constantly spewing your hatred on this forum doesn't seem to contribute anything others can learn from.


Chris

P.S. If I remember correctly, weren't you one of the people who cited our customer service as having problems? We are working on this very issue and still you complain and throw stones.
02-29-2008 01:18 AM
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geker
Senior Heliman
Location: lykens,PA

well i want to say this i have built a 20 cc and it went together rather well. no real issues the only one i had that got my attension was the tail boom was to long. wow big deal take a pipe cutter and removed an inch and it was just fine, i have managed to do some test running of the engine and can say it does seam to have lots of power i have a set of 650 blades on it . if the weather and my job could just come together i could get it in the air and trim it out and do some flying, but ether the weather is bad or i am out of town on a job. one of theses days i will be home and the weather will be good too. i am a service tech for newspapper printing presses and out on the road more then home is why i say my job. but i will say this i like the machine and i am sure that it and my fly will be getting most of the air time i do get when home. for the record i have a t-rex 450xl, a raptor 50 and 2 preditor gassers with the 231 motor. i have managed to get my fly tested out in the last few weeks on the one have good day we had, frooze my days fingers but the days was nice no wind but cold dave
02-29-2008 02:35 AM
 
 
Funky Trex
Veteran
Location: Westerville, OH - USA

Great idea QWW!! This is a fantastic idea and I can't wait to see the results.
02-29-2008 04:59 AM
 
 
helibullSenior Heliman - Location: virginia -
lawyers... guns.... and_____ THE benifit of the_____?

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02-29-2008 07:15 AM
 
 
RaptorEngineer
Heliman
Location: Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

My challenge

I appreciate you're offer to me, but I don't want QWW continues bashing me and trying to doing the same conduct about your responsibility. I'm doing what youre looking for in this challenge, before.
I'm try in many time and request my refund (money back) before flow my machine the first time and QWW said NO because pass more than 45 days from the negotiation. This 45 days was lot, lot of time trying to complete the model with correct parts (boom, belt, swashplate, rear transmission, starter coupling, header pipe adapter, etc..) but QWW ever said that was my fault. Now I ready trying to flow, but I'm not thrust in the machine reliability (long term used). I bough this machine with AP purposes in mind and I don't want risk my AP equipment under this machine and all around safety (this is my personal feeling, not necessary shared or same of any other QWW owner).

I guess that if QWW people hear and take care of each of your client (same at the day of the sale) to success a common goal (good negotiation) the result will be better. Apply 100% customer satisfaction (related to any parts inside of all new QWW kits) or youre money back (policy).

Yes! Many time QWW replace the parts with the correct one (I return the other parts at my expense), but I'm loosing confidence in the model because I never found any similar situation in any other model that I build before (i can't list them for RR rules). But ever the same answer: "its your fault in the assembly process".

I never said that "NOT buy QWW models", just want that any other person know my experience about my machine and thinking about their future investment.

best regards

Make ideas into realities...
02-29-2008 01:16 PM
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Quick Worldwide
rrAdvertiser
Location: Coopersburg, PA

That is what were doing

If you want others to share your "experience", then this will once and for all let people know for themselves. You were helped with replacement parts and service, even for things that were blatently not on us, which I won't go into because it has already been hashed out on previous forums. As a rep for another heli company, I personally find it hard for you to have a totally unbiased opinion, but we are listening none the less. We have put our heli where our mouth is. Geker put his together with no problem, and you say you didn't, well this challenge should give the final word. I can't fathom what else we can do, I think this is about as open as we can be. However, if there is something else you think we could do please let me know.



Chris
02-29-2008 03:11 PM
 
 
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