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e-E-Sky Honey Bee- Lama- Belt CP- E-Smart > Belt CP or HBK2, Here is the asnwer (Video Add)
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Well said Doug. I was trying to say something like that....
Racin06 thanks for the help.... He has the potential but need to get the setup better to move forward in his flying skills...

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 03:02 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

well slider46. here i am 2 hours trying to fix the tail problem in normal mode. no matter what i do with the servo position, when i hit more throttle the tail will want to go to the right. when i leave the throttle it will go to the left when landing. i think this could be a headspeed problem or radio setting?

this "should not be" really important but i did buy this helicopter from ebay second hand used, it could have some setup problems by its owner.

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ut_neon, After watching your videos, you really have progressed very fast. Probably faster than most people do, impressive, it wasn't too long ago you were flying a co-ax only !! Just try not to get too far ahead of yourself Let your brain soak in some of the basic skills a little before moving on. You certainly have fierce dedication and determination

thank you doug, i'm just following the radds flight of school program and trying to overcome the fear factor. the problem right now before i can start to practice more is to get the setup right. the belt cp is setup right but i still don't figure out the hbk2 tail problem.

is it normal that when i switch the tail servo to head lock mode the servo will move to the mainframe slowly without giving any input?
02-17-2008 03:19 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

The servo creeping on you is probably the issue your having with the tail not holding properly... Check the finless videos he has a fix for the servo creeping, I don't remember right now what it is so go check the video out...

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 03:36 PM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Servo CREEP -- Yep --- Creep, The video I saw was funny. Bob kept saying look NNOOOO Creep, oops, theres still some creep----NNNOOOOO CCrreepp---- still a lil bit of CREEP !!
02-17-2008 03:52 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

It's all about the creep... or lack of creep...

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 04:03 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

slide46 where do you find the servo creep video? i don't find it in finless bob videos... well i'm sure that the creeping fix will be with the digital TX. i'm still using the stock tx, i will change it right now to the futaba FASST system...

right you will now beat me out of it xp i'm waiting for a new receiver i will change the 2.4ghz reveicer from belt cp to this one. belt cp will not fly for another 2 days=p
02-17-2008 04:44 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

ok aileron and pitch servo are going down when i give throttle up. which one is the setting on tx to make this right? elevator servo is ok

ok i already figured out. =)

let's try this thing out
02-17-2008 05:05 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

If all the servos are working together but the direction is wrong you need to go into the swash menu and change the value from + to - or vise versa...
I'm still looking for the servo creep video

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 05:22 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

I found the video it's in the HDX300 build videos not the trex files... http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath...e=tail_gyro.wmv

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 05:33 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

well while i've waited for the video link i've tested both belt cp and hbk2 with same servo and same gyro and now with same tx and rx. the problem is not in the servo or gyro. at least the belt cp will fly all good with the same gyro and servo that was on the hbk2.

the symphtoms are:

low head speed = tail turning to the left

high head speed = tail turning to the right

motor = 3100kv esky

could it be some problem with the belt? this is a second hand helicopter
02-17-2008 05:53 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

by the way... why dont i have a sub trim option in the futaba 2.4ghz radio?
02-17-2008 06:52 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

It not offered on the 6 channel Futaba radios You really don't need subtrims if you setup the heli mechanically correct...

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 06:57 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

thats how its corrected on the finless video. well, i found out something. i took out the HH esky gyro and install the 401 Futaba Gyro, guess what, the servo is not working with this gyro. i have here 2 spare esky servo and they work with it... i will change the servo. it could be the problem.
02-17-2008 07:08 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Good catch on the bad servo it might just be the problem. If your using a regular servo make sure the DS (digital servo) switch is off on the 401....

Tom..... No "D" flying....
02-17-2008 07:21 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

yes i know thank you. i've seen all finless video setups so i don't miss a single step.

well to be honest i changed the gyro to the futaba 401 and the tail now holds like a dream. i guess the problem was the servo and the gyro. i will throw that gyro HH Esky to the garbage and just buy a Futaba 240 Gyro to keep this one on the belt co, after all the issue was on the servo and gyro. i knew that it couldn't be the setup of the tail. it would be strange to have the tail turning to the left and low headspeed and turning to the right at highspeed. now that won't happen. seems like that this GY-401 is REALLY good.

Now i'm off to get some final adjustments before i make a video of flying it, and also i don't want to be flying with this fixed blades, they can break in the air like the Frame Break of Doug=P

In the end all you have to do is to inspect all the parts in you helicopter... it really is a funny hobby=P eheh i like it.
02-17-2008 07:26 PM
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

Keep doin what you like and have fun doing UT and for gods sake never give up. You got enough knowledge downloaded and with that weather of yours you can get plenty of sticktime. You also know how to set a bird up well enough. I saw your vids and your tail coming loose but I figured you could figure it out. Its time to Spread your wings and fly and setup on your own.

Nothing to it but to do it.

Good luck UT cant wait to see some warm sunny Portugal vids.
02-17-2008 07:59 PM
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ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

thank you nayrt02, it wouldn't be possible without the help of all of you in this forum.

i've gotten a better way of balancing the blades for now. if i'm balancing wooden blades i will polish the heavier until it becomes the same weight of the other. it really works well.
02-17-2008 08:29 PM
 
 
ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal

Hi! I got some time at 6pm before going to university class at 6:30, so i asked my sister to record the HBK2 flying in the Backyard of my house.

It's running with 3100kv Esky motor, Futaba GY-401 and Futaba 6EX 2.4ghz Radio with expo at -15%

Normal Throttle curve is fixed at maximum of 90% like tryan02 adviced.

Both Main Blade are fixed with glue, i tried to polish them to make them balanced but they still won't be good as new blades. This will work as a temporary fix and with these Blades and Motor the king just doesn't have enough power to recover from fast downs.

Also the battery packs i'm using are the same as the Belt CP, making it heavier too.
I would like you to advice me some battery packs (from Helidirect) for using with Motor 3800kv from esky that i will upgrade as well.

Here is the video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17sQYB6PtMk
02-18-2008 07:42 PM
 
 
shizack
Key Veteran
Location: Augusta, GA USA

The Esky 3800 wants about 20 amps max, so any battery that can safely sustain about 20 amps should be fine.

1000mah/20C
1200mah/20c
1320mah/15C

Anything in this neighborhood should work. Try to keep it relatively light for maximum punch and flight time.

The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
02-18-2008 09:47 PM
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ut_neon
Key Veteran
Location: Coimbra, Portugal
02-20-2008 01:35 AM
 
 
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