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e-E-Sky Honey Bee- Lama- Belt CP- E-Smart > where to get cheap head?
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

And don't say downtown. Anyone got a link to get a cheap copterx cnc head I am on the fence I already have an esky swash so its $70 to finish out esky head jaghobbied. Or I found on ebay $70 copterx but Ill still have to use my swash anyway.

Canton MO backyard flying club
Club President
Team No funds left.
12-14-2007 04:00 AM
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Burlyman38
Veteran
Location: Troy,IL

I think if you watch hbo's hookers at the point, you should find some there.

Sorry tryan i couldnt resist.

TripleB
Flying by the street light.
12-14-2007 04:02 AM
 
 
Tony2Chins
New Heliman
Location: Gilbert, Arizona USA

I've heard you guys refer to "Jag" a few times now. Is this a known good shop to buy from? Please provide me a link.

I also am interrested in eventually replacing the entire head on my Belt-CP. I may just replace it one part at a time when I crash it and need to replace parts, or if it's considerably cheaper, maybe buying the whole thing at once.

On that topic; I hear you guys refer to a difference in flight between the main rotor on top vs. the flybar. Can someone help me understand the difference?

If it really that much better, why are they not all engineered that way? And can I simply buy an aluminium Trex 450 head and slap it on to a Belt-CP?

Any advice?

Thanks.
12-14-2007 04:42 AM
 
 
shizack
Key Veteran
Location: Augusta, GA USA

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The gangster guy: I've heard you guys refer to "Jag" a few times now. Is this a known good shop to buy from? Please provide me a link.

http://www.jaghobbies.com/rc_cars/rc_planes.htm Never bought from there, but good reputation.

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The wise guy: ...I hear you guys refer to a difference in flight between the main rotor on top vs. the flybar. Can someone help me understand the difference?
Any advice?
Thanks.

Flybar on top = overslung, flybar below = underslung. I've read much debate, and all I can make of it is that the overslung design (arguably) adds a little stability to inverted hovering. It really comes down to personal preference. I prefer overslung, myself.

If you're OK with the underslung design, you can get a whole plastic head, everything from the swashplate up, from RC-Tek for less than $35. It's the Phantom head, and you'd have to cut a few mm off of the main shaft to fit it. It's been getting good reviews from King owners who've tried it. I believe you need to use the King swash with Trex balls, though, but not sure there.

The overslung full-CNC Diablo (red) or SkyShark (silver) head is available at www.RC-TEK.com too for about $90 complete. The Diablo head is sold out right now though.

The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
12-14-2007 07:47 AM
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Tony2Chins
New Heliman
Location: Gilbert, Arizona USA

Very helpful info. So, I can buy the Sky Shark head, and it is a direct replacement? Just plug and play, so to speak? Sometimes I read about having to modify a part here or there, any idea?

Thanks again for the great info.
12-14-2007 08:32 AM
 
 
shizack
Key Veteran
Location: Augusta, GA USA

It's an indirect fit, in that you may need to cut the top of the main shaft down a few mm (necessary on the King, not sure about the Belt), and you'd have to use a swashplate made for your heli, like the Esky or µH (MicroHeli). Since the RC-TEK heads are 100% direct replacements for Trexes, you'd need to replace the balls on your swash to fit the links with the 'rex compatible ones.

The heads fit on a 5mm shaft, so the diameter's not an issue, but the length may be. But 2 minutes with a Dremel can cure most anything.

Story of my life...

The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
12-14-2007 09:03 AM
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DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

ShiZack is 99 Percent correct! Except, you don't need to replace ALL the balls on the swash, only two inner swash balls have to be changed, Tryan, you need bigger Balls, He he!, But seriously folks, If you don't want to get a TRIX clone from Hong Kong and wait. There is a Seller from CA named inethobby who sells the clone heads. I think the buy it now price is high 70 or 80 bucks plus shipping, but if you watch some of the auctions sometimes you get lucky, I got mine for 35 bucks and 15 for shipping, a total of $50 bucks. Two terrible crashes and only bent the spindle and blades both times. OR, you could just go with the "purply head" you already got the "purply" swash, them you could say"PURPLY" all the time !
12-14-2007 10:40 AM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Tryan, Update on inethobby, I just checked checked on Ebay and he isn't listing the clone head anymore, I think he lost monies on previous sales. I myself would like to see you get the "purply" stuff, I think it looks cool, different,purply, and you would be supporting the Company that restored our FAITH in RC heli's, plus there would be no Mods required and you could keep your existing BALLs, no need to get bigger ones!
12-14-2007 11:27 AM
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

I was looking for cheap head like you get DougsRC but haven't found any in a couple weeks. At the copterX price $70 and a few others since I already have the swash I only need $70 more bucks to finish it out purple stuff from jag. But I wanted the underslung blades when I'm doing an inverted tapping the top on the ground.

Oh and the spindle thing has me a little worried on purple stuff I guess when they come into stock I should buy a dozen.

Canton MO backyard flying club
Club President
Team No funds left.
12-14-2007 11:41 AM
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DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

I know your right, there doesn't seem to be as many on Ebay as there was 6 weeks ago, Try doing some searches like " copterX,TREX, T rex on EBAY. I know there are still out there, but most of them I found were in Hong Kong so it takes 10 to 14 days to arrive.
12-14-2007 11:45 AM
 
 
tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

Ill keep looking but If I cant find cheap head Im gonna get some purple stuff and play with my heli.

Canton MO backyard flying club
Club President
Team No funds left.
12-14-2007 11:47 AM
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tryan02
rrProfessor
Location: Canton, Missouri

there are 2 kinds of TREX heads I cant tell which one will fit the king. It looks like one is 90 degree swash instead of 120 I know I want 120. Did I just answer my own question? One fits SE & XL and the other is for HDE I am looking at ebay the following link is what Im looking at half way down you select which version you want.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALIGN-CNC-Trex-...ksid=p1638.m118

Canton MO backyard flying club
Club President
Team No funds left.
12-14-2007 05:50 PM
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Tony2Chins
New Heliman
Location: Gilbert, Arizona USA

DougsRC,

I too would like to support ESky, but I have two issues with their head. First, it's more expensive. That by itself would not be an issue with me except for issue #2: it is NOT all metal. There are plastic bits all over it.

If it were all metal, I'd jump right on it. Having said that, I guess the question is, are the plastic parts a real detriment? My assumption is that the plastic parts will break easily on impact. The idea of an all metal head is to avoid that sort of thing.

Does this all make sense?
12-14-2007 08:07 PM
 
 
Gregor99
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Wa

Do you mean you don't like that is part plastic, just like the washout arms on the Trex head?



12-14-2007 08:31 PM
 
 
Tony2Chins
New Heliman
Location: Gilbert, Arizona USA

That's exactly what I mean. I never compared the two, so I'm not sure why you bring that up. I'm not some huge Align fan, nor did I say anything about the Esky parts being inferior. I was simply comparing the ESky stuff with the various aftermarket heads available that are all metal.

Now I will try to extricate Gregor99 from my throat.
12-14-2007 09:13 PM
 
 
Gregor99
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Wa

Which after market heads are all metal?
12-14-2007 09:45 PM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Gregor, You continue to amaze me, Great pictures for demonstration. This is NOT an insult but you kinda remind me of "Spock"from the old star trek, Highly intelligent and being half human , gets it when Kirk jokes around but doesn't acknowlage the humor so much, prefers the intellect. But Anywho, Tryan, You definately want the CDE head for the SE and XL with the 120 degree swashplate. I have the V1 clone, not the V2 clone. The V1 takes the 40mm x 3mm spindles, the V2 takes 4mm spindles and other things start to break with the thicker spindle, let the spindle be your SCAPEGOAT !
12-14-2007 09:56 PM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

Tony 2 chins, Gregor is right, the only plastic on the CNC head, at least on the Clone is the washout arms. I recommend the ESKY purply because there are no modifications nessasary, if you get the Align or Align clone get ready for some potential frustation if you don't have a natural tendincy for such modifications.
12-14-2007 10:01 PM
 
 
slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Am I hearing this right you guys are putting trex parts on your HBK2 to make it,OH, how shall I say this, "FLY BETTER" and more "CRASH RESISTANT". Once you put the head and tail from the trex on your bird it is technically a "trex" those are the parts that make it fly.... The side frames and electronics don't mean squat..... Are you seeing my logic here????? I knew deep down inside you guys really wanted a trex anyways

Tom..... No "D" flying....
12-14-2007 10:08 PM
 
 
Gregor99
Elite Veteran
Location: Western Wa

Thanks Doug.
12-14-2007 10:14 PM
 
 
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