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Antiques or Out of Business > Schluter Heli-Baby
 
 
Gerd
Senior Heliman
Location: Vellmar/Germany

Yes, a manual is in prepartion. Currently I write the german manual.
Then I built a second Baby and make a photo set. The next step is the english translation and then the correction from a native english speaking person. Then we burn all this on small DVDs and send it in a letter to each owner.
In my opinion everybody, who has built a Helibaby in his live can built this kit without reading any paper again - sure! Difficult things are premounted. Only the positions of the skids, rudder fins and decals must be measured from the plan. For details you can look on pics of the homepage or ask me for a certain pic when you do not find it.
The wood parts must currently be copied from the plan with carbon paper. The contours on the plan are very accurate, only the holes and the hole for the lower u-profile must be moved about 1 mm besides.

Calculate for the built three evenings: One for the mechanic, one for the wood and plastic parts and one for the radio installation and justation.

You can provisorically download the english original manual from 1976 here:
www.minicopter.de/helibaby/en/Manua...english_old.pdf

and here the original picture manual:
www.minicopter.de/helibaby/img/Heli...ldanleitung.jpg

Also everybody can ask me nearly alltime here: info@minicopter.de
You can also reach me on phone until 6 p.m. eastern time).
But donīt forget that we are 6 hrs before eastern time and 9 hrs before CT .
01-30-2008 02:23 PM
 
 
RAK402
Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

Gerd,

I have two questions for you sir:

1) How does one purchase the tooth belt upgrade?

2) Are there any plans to revive the Heliboy?


Thank you.
01-30-2008 03:08 PM
 
 
Badgerfarm
Heliman
Location: Missouri

Hi RAK402,
I saw your question to Gerd about the Heliboy. I am in the process of blueprinting Heliboy parts for CNC and water jetting. Are you interested in a specific part or whole kits?
01-30-2008 04:01 PM
 
 
Gerd
Senior Heliman
Location: Vellmar/Germany

You can order the tailbelt conversion in the minicopter.Shop. There is a hidden link on the www.helibaby.de/en/index.htm page: Click on the blue Heli-Baby Logo and you will land in the Online-Shop.

To rebuilt an antique machine is from economical view a high risk, because the group of enthusiats is relative small and naturally based this group does become continuously smaller.
The advantage of the Heli-Baby was that you do not need any injection mold, the number of parts is relative small, the financial investment is acceptable. The only machines I would also reproduce are Cobra/DS22/Gazelle. Graupner Bell 212, Bell 47 and Kavan Jet-Ranger are too complicate. And the Cobra was 80% remanufactured from a group of friends from Helioldie.de. Perhaps I will help with a complete main gear for the Cobra in the near future (that is seal).
The Heliboy is a lot of turned and milled parts, molded parts, angled gear wheels, the complicate rotorhead, the difficult maingear wheel. My full respect for this person who is able to reproduce the complete machine. I would be one of the first customers.
01-30-2008 04:34 PM
 
 
Badgerfarm
Heliman
Location: Missouri

I would be interested in the Cobra, DS 22, and the Gazelle. That would be great to see all of these old machines up and flying.
01-30-2008 05:16 PM
 
 
Tritan
Senior Heliman
Location: Sweden

Gerd,
which one of the Webra heli engines do you recommend for the Heli-Baby? I flew it (hovered) back in the 70s with a standard webra 40 but sure one of the dedicated heli Webra's from today should fit?
Silencer?

My helis:
- 1 partly built Heli-Baby, in new, original parts condition
- 1 used Heli-Baby, used , in parts
- 1 Gazelle, missing some mechanical parts
- 1 complete kit of a Cobra, everything still unassembled in boxes
- 1 partly built Cobra, should be flying this summer, used parts
- 1 DuBro Hughes 300 complete, red veeery nice.
- 1 Hirobo 505
- 1 Hirobo 555
- 3 MFA Sport 500
- 1 Logo 10 3D
- 1 Logo 600 3D

Will have (hopefully) one Heli-Baby and one Cobra flying this summer.



Thanks,
Tritan
Sweden
01-30-2008 05:32 PM
 
 
RAK402
Veteran
Location: Alhambra, CA

Badgerfarm,

I would be interested in knowing what a kit might cost.

I sold my Heliboys back in the 1980's and have always regretted it.

They flew beautifully.

My problem was that I wanted to buy a car...
01-30-2008 06:49 PM
 
 
Gerd
Senior Heliman
Location: Vellmar/Germany

Tritan,

try the classic Webra Speed 40, the old Webra 40 with nose piston is not really good. When you have only a Webra 50 in your stock then try it, but the .40 is enough. Also try the Dynamix with 6.5mm bore when you can get it, great carburetor. CP 5% will provide good running items.
Look also here: www.helibaby.de/en/zubehoer_e.html
01-30-2008 08:27 PM
 
 
tutelar-rc
Key Veteran
Location: Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

Gerd:

Thanks! I received my kit today. Packaging was sufficient to get the kit from Germany to Canada without any damage.

I agree with heli_headcase - this kit is first class!

I have included some photos of the kit as received.



BTW, Gerd had sent me the manual before I even placed the order.

Excellent job Gerd! Thanks again! I will soon be adding a Heli-Baby section to my Gallery...
01-31-2008 04:13 AM
 
 
Tritan
Senior Heliman
Location: Sweden

Vielen Dank Gerd,
I will order the Webra and Zimmermann from you.

Tritan
01-31-2008 04:55 AM
 
 
Tritan
Senior Heliman
Location: Sweden

Gerd,
also, which Webra do you recommend for my Schluter Cobra? Will there be a special Webra version from you as for the Heli-Baby?

Other parts for the Cobra? I am about to start building it in the spring.

Tritan
Sweden
01-31-2008 11:50 AM
 
 
Gerd
Senior Heliman
Location: Vellmar/Germany

Of course Webra Speed 61. As equipment a bigger cooling hat, the rectangular fitted well. When you can find it: Kavan had in the past as equipment a ripped cooling clamp for the motors. Look by helioldie, he has a pic of a repro Cobra mechanic with this heatsink clamp.
I do not have Speed 61s please contact www.hoehn-modellbau.de, I mean they can organize Speeds or have them in stock.

Tutelar-rc, thank you for the feedback. When I see right the cartonage has nearly collapsed, but nothing bad has happened. We will use in future harder material for the cartonages to North america. First time that I see such a box after transport. Thank you!
01-31-2008 07:30 PM
 
 
heli_headcase
Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

More 'cartonage' feedback...

Hi Gerd,

The shipping box (cartonage) sent to me was in perfect condition. There was nothing to report of crushing or damage so I said nothing. But now you know the box survived perfectly.

But I will also add that the box was so completely filled with parts, it had excellent internal support and protection from crushing. That is the 'secret' to cartonage survival - fill it completely with firm materials.

Would you please send to me a manual copy also? I still have the original Schluter papers from 1975 but a new print would be appropriate here. Original German is perfectly OK with me.

Thank you!
Steve Poretz


HHC

So many heli's - too little time...
01-31-2008 07:47 PM
 
 
human213
Senior Heliman
Location: malibu

With those machine skills, and this reproduction;

hmmmmmm.... I need a ferrari P4, and less than a handful exist,


so...




Steve, it is getting to be Christmas for you every day...


m

Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.
01-31-2008 08:43 PM
 
 
heli_headcase
Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

Was it only me?

Saturday a small package of parts from Gerd was discovered in my mailbox. The padded envelope contained a starter belt, some Schluter stickers and ball links.

I wasn't aware that I was missing any of these parts from my order but until I hear back from Gerd on this subject I'm really scratching my head.

Have any of you Heli-Baby purchasers received a similar package?


HHC

So many heli's - too little time...
02-11-2008 11:16 PM
 
 
tutelar-rc
Key Veteran
Location: Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

I received an e-mail from Gerd:
"for bag 6 I have sent you three smaller ball links, the links in the bag are for 2.5 mm wire. Sorry!"

BTW: I posted pictures of my build last night into my gallery, and he replied today about a small error I made with my build. Gerd added a cut-out to the bottom support of the cabin rear wall for easier access to the glow plug.

Picture he sent me...

If you note in my gallery, I installed the support upside-down, which he was kind enought to point out (saves me the trouble of discovering that after I installed my motor)!

Thanks Gerd!
02-12-2008 12:33 AM
 
 
tutelar-rc
Key Veteran
Location: Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

Hey! I received a care package today as well...

Thanks Gerd!
02-12-2008 02:28 AM
 
 
tutelar-rc
Key Veteran
Location: Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

New build pics added to my gallery...



Build has been very straight-forward with few issues.

I am very happy with this kit!

Looking forward to flying soon...
02-22-2008 03:03 AM
 
 
Tritan
Senior Heliman
Location: Sweden

tutelar,

I have built about as much as you but I will run in the Webra in a bench with an APC propellor. What engine are you using?
02-22-2008 11:51 AM
 
 
tutelar-rc
Key Veteran
Location: Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

I will be using the OPS 40 RCA out of my Mini-Boy - I am upgrading the engine in the Mini-Boy for a little more power/speed...

I am in the paint stage right now. Hope to have that completed this week, and the radio installed next week. Maybe get a flight in next weekend!
02-22-2008 08:50 PM
 
 
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