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QuickWorldWide Ep and Wet Fuel Helis > I will be buying a Quick next year!
 
 
cannibal440
Senior Heliman
Location: cookeville, tennessee USA

its ALL about setup. i used to knock the chinese crap but i have been able to get walkeras to fly very smooth. the parts are just cheap quality. china wont make good electronics. put a gy240 on a walkera and make some simple modifications and they fly very well. i own a QWW OD20. i have it put together im just waiting a couple of more months to get everything else. i have only been flying for over a year but i have an engineering background and have no trouble getting the most stubborn birds to fly.
12-18-2007 04:07 PM
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shuttlepilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Mullins, South Carolina

cannibal,

Have you weighed the 20? I am curious to what yours came up to.

Gas is Great
QWW Field Rep
12-18-2007 04:09 PM
 
 
ozghost1952
Heliman
Location: Melbourne Australia

Before you buy - read my review in the Gasser Forum

Hi invrtd

Before you rush out and buy a Quick next year - do your homework....

As a start read my report in the Gasser Forum of the 20cc QWW gasser - and try to persuade Irwin and crew before they release a whole new range - they should focus on getting their existing machines in good order

Jeff
12-19-2007 09:25 AM
 
 
shuttlepilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Mullins, South Carolina

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Before you rush out and buy a Quick next year - do your homework....

Yes, by all means talk to the guys that have built and are flying the helis without ONE problem. If the directions are followed carefully.....like any other stacked frame built up heli, they will go together fine and fly the same way.

Gas is Great
QWW Field Rep
12-19-2007 01:20 PM
 
 
JA Allen
Senior Heliman
Location: NYC

If I noticed something I wanted to change during the build, I let HHI know, and Irwin and Jon supported me fine. Was not one problem with build, mind you, they were things I wanted to change before flying. They had the parts here in two days.
12-19-2007 06:27 PM
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JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

JA Allen ,

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I just dont get it

I guess I'm the one that does not get it..... I sent you a PM asking if you could post the video that you promised in another thread a while back and got a pretty "pissy", defensive reply....... I went to reply to your PM to tell you that I understood your position to find that you placed me on your "ignore" list.....

I guess I'm the one that doesn't get it......
12-19-2007 09:43 PM
 
 
JA Allen
Senior Heliman
Location: NYC

12-19-2007 09:59 PM
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JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

Here is my PM to you.....

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How about the video you promised ?? If you post that, it will serve to dump cold water on the negative posting, don't you think ??

For months, folks have been asking for video of QWW helis doing more than just hovering around...... You offered to post a video of some 3D and I asked if you would in hopes that it would help suppress some of the negative posts that a lot of people complain about ..... You must be really full of yourself if you interpreted that to mean that I was asking you to prove anything......

And here is your off the wall response.....

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We already finished it. I will put it up when my build thread is completed.

I dont have to throw cold water on anything, for anyone. I actually dont care about what anyone thinks, or wtf they fly on RR. I do what I want, when I want. Again, I dont give a $#@% about negative posting. Just that I am having no problems with my machine, or my Vibe, or my Raptor. Get it just a little bit...

Go fly and enjoy flying. I am.

Thanks anyway for your "concern". Good luck and Goodbye.

And now I bid you farewell, goodby, good luck and Happy Holidays...
12-19-2007 11:39 PM
 
 
invrtd
Veteran
Location: Central Florida

Gentlemen,
Please stop the drama! This forum is not for that. JA when you get your video complete I would love to see it. Thanks for the vote of confidence. This forum is for the user in the end. All the negativity and unprofessionalism needs to stop.

They are many new things coming. Quick is getting a face lift and everything does take a little time. Things don't happen over night.

Thanks everyone,


Clark
12-19-2007 11:46 PM
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ZXXflyer
Key Veteran
Location: stone mountain, georgia, US

I'm waitin on the new 90....
Currently flying(and loving) my Quick 60 carbon Pro, and even have an unfinished Big Bertha(ND90) on the shelf.

As soon as I get the gyro problem solved on the 60, I will definately post video of it doing flips, rolls, inverted, and such...my skills are limited but I can shoot a mean dead stick auto.

Believer in Weston motors!
12-20-2007 12:54 AM
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invrtd
Veteran
Location: Central Florida

We are almost done with the new 50. Need one more sample cut and she should be ready. We don't cut any corners. If something doesn't fit right, back to the drawing board until we get a sample that fits correctly. Desinging a heli is no as simple as everyone thinks. Lots of $$$ and man hours going into every aspect of the design. Just keeping you guys posted.
12-20-2007 11:42 PM
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cannibal440
Senior Heliman
Location: cookeville, tennessee USA

if anyone has issues with any of the helicopters i wouldnt mind helping people through their problems. price wise you cant beat the QWW but it comes with a dark side. someone with milling machines, lathes, etc would adore the QWW helis due to their universal nature. but thats also a double edged sword. for the common flyers they dont have the equipment to really do true repairs or mods on the helicopters.

as far as the weight of the OD20 i havent weighed it. i would guess it to be around 7lbs with blades, minus engine and electronics. what people arent taking into consideration is that it uses the 2 stroke gas powerplant which pushes more torque. that is why i chose to use the OD20 for an aerial photography ship. im still working on getting it finished for trial purposes before i drop another 2 grand to convert it into an AP heli. when i do start back on the project ill keep people informed on problems ive encountered and fixes i come up with. as far as defective parts i only had 1 part out of my whole kit which was bad. they sent me a replacement free of charge. another issue i had was the end mounts for the tail boom supports. there was no way possible to use them with the supplied CF rods. i just turned some new ones down in my lathe.

i may change my opinion about the QWW helis once i get it flying but i see no issues with the quality of the kit.
12-21-2007 07:16 AM
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Stu.
Veteran
Location: Abrakebabra Kebab shop

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price wise you cant beat the QWW but it comes with a dark side. someone with milling machines, lathes, etc would adore the QWW s due to their universal nature

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universal nature.

lol, what does this mean. all the bits arent straight?

www.waterfoothelis.com
12-22-2007 04:29 PM
 
 
shuttlepilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Mullins, South Carolina

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lol, what does this mean. all the bits arent straight?

Just as straight as any of the other "popular" helis out there that "require" upgrades to get the users happy. Over 47 hours on my OD26 airframe without a mechanical failure. Of course I'm running the CNC tail, which was the only thing changed, and the only part of the heli that I had an issue with before changing to CNC. No need for Kasama heads or tails, replacing one-ways, or any of the other "bits" on the "popular" helis.

Gas is Great
QWW Field Rep
12-22-2007 05:00 PM
 
 
cannibal440
Senior Heliman
Location: cookeville, tennessee USA

they dont require anymore skill than any other helicopter to get flying. all the chinese heli kits are packed by a massive amount of workers. unfortunately an american company cant afford to have a chinese guy for every little step of the process. the build time of the quicks require more time but you get a better overall helicopter. and i do mean universal. their mechanics are very straightforward with no specialty parts required. the frames and other parts require some fitting but if youre mechanically inclined and take the time to do everything right the first time you'll be happy. if youre a beginner though you need to stick with the helis made overseas since you need chinese slaves to do the work for you!

id rather save some cash and do the work myself so i know its done right. how many times has someone bought a chinese heli and had screws come loose? first thing you HAVE to do is strip down what the chinese put together and put it all back together yourself. all youre doing is spending more money for nothing.


#1 good cnc parts
#2 out of the whole kit i bought only 1 part was bad and they replaced it for free
#3 they send extra hardware in its own organized container..not bags (cause everyone loses little bits to these things)
#4 excellent building skematics on a cd with great color illustrations
#5 tech support is in america....you really get to speak with an american
#6 parts are made in america so getting new parts is very easy
#7 of course youre going to have small issues with all helicopters but turnover rate is 1/3rd that of the helis made overseas on improvements.
#8 UNIVERSAL as i said. all their helicopters are universal so building up a fleet of them would save you big time on spare parts inventory costs.
#9 i feel much better supporting an american company rather than giving money to a country that supports putting antifreeze in toothpaste and painting toys with lead paint KNOWING little children put everything in their mouths.
12-23-2007 02:57 AM
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JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

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#6 parts are made in america so getting new parts is very easy

Parts may be readily available but I was under the impression that most of the machined bits were made overseas, China in particular.....I don't think that QWW could keep the prices reasonable if they had to pay American machine shop wages.....

Perhaps I'm wrong so maybe Irwin or Clark can clear that up ??
12-23-2007 02:50 PM
 
 
invrtd
Veteran
Location: Central Florida

Some parts are made overseas. We do make alot of parts state side though. We are able to keep the cost down for such a high quality machined helicopter because we keep overhead to a minimum and cut out the middlemen. We then can pass the saving onto the customer. No other heli or manufacturer can compete with our prices for an all machined heli. Purchase another heli then add the cost of all the upgrades and you will see for yourself.
12-23-2007 03:15 PM
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JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

Thanx...........

for clearing that up, Clark.....

I didn't think that Irwin's multiple trips to China were for "vacation" purposes !!!
12-23-2007 08:23 PM
 
 
cannibal440
Senior Heliman
Location: cookeville, tennessee USA

exactly which parts are made overseas?
12-24-2007 03:03 AM
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JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

I don't think Irwin or Clark will get into all that but I suspect that most (if not all) of the CNC machined parts come from China.....
12-24-2007 02:17 PM
 
 
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