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GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

Let's remember the importance of emphasizing that the choices which put the end result in play were made by the perpetrators, not Joe Horn. Without the perpetrators SEVERAL choices to be here illegally, and subsequent FATAL choices on their parts to behave threateningly, no one need've died.

According to the most fundamental, common-sensible social axiom ever imagined by human beings, Joe Horn performed a community service.

"The Greatest Good For The Greatest Number"

Fundamentals -- always a sensible place to start with things that matter most.

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07-07-2008 05:39 AM
 
 
dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

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So according to you, if me or my family's life is threatened by one of your good buddy criminals, we should take a beating? Wrong. I carry a weapon to defend myself, my family, and my property.

Was horn, or his family or his property under threat during the burglary of someone elses house?

He shot them after the fact.......your nra dunce hat is in your eyes, take it off and open your eyes................
07-07-2008 05:54 AM
 
 
AddCollective
New Heliman
Location: USA

The laws of Texas allow for that "dick smith".

If you come to Texas, "dick smith" and perpetrate a burglary of my neighbor, you will be shot unless you surrender, and if you, "dick smith" don't like the laws of Texas, then just stay where you are and don't come here.
07-07-2008 06:03 AM
 
 
dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

But i want to go there and bend your XXXXX over and make XXX XXXXXX like a XXX,,,,, little green man
07-07-2008 06:43 AM
 
 
AddCollective
New Heliman
Location: USA

So what you are advocating is that your group of australian scumbags, by your own admission, practices copulation with strange corpses(rather than those of your family members) in the hope that the aforementioned corpses will "squeal like a pig".

Is your affliction hereditary or were you a just a "mommy's" boy?
07-07-2008 06:53 AM
 
 
RC/helicopman
Heliman
Location: USA

Wow AddCollective, It didn't take you long to come out swinging did it? You registered one day ago and jumped right into the middle fray???
07-07-2008 08:09 AM
 
 
kryptik
Heliman
Location: South Carolina

Not unlike yourself, who created your alter ego over a year ago, and only use it when it suits your needs? By your own admission on this thread, you use it so none of us can know who we're dealing with, yet you know us all personally? I see no difference... Trolling is trolling. Dick Smith at least is honest about his inflammatory ignorance. Such as trying to misapply my quote to 50feet about not feeling like a tough guy because I carry a gun, which is completely beside the point with Horn. Since he really has no valid argument here, and an obviously irrelevant opinion in general on this topic, he has to resort to such tactics, though they only highlight his beligerant, borderline alcoholic rants for what they are...pure jibberish. It appears he is the one blinded by the NRA dunce cap, though probably not for the reasons he may at first think. Have another beer, mate.

If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't ...
07-07-2008 08:35 AM
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dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

Thats ok Kryptic, i forgive you.......... i dont drink or do drugs. I like a clear mind (hmmm , that could be open to debate )....

REminds me of a joke, add collective; mummy,mummy,i dont wanna see grandma.............Shutup, and keep digging...
07-07-2008 11:03 AM
 
 
Heliguychris
Senior Heliman
Location: Perth, West Australia

If i saw ya doin a dug up grandma, id shoot ya Dicksmith!

On general principal Dats nasty
07-07-2008 11:16 AM
 
 
RC/helicopman
Heliman
Location: USA

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I know that I am not a violent person and therefore I can make that claim, if you knew exactly who it was you were talking to you might agree, but since you don't know who is behind this handle you can't be sure. However, people do know who you are and I personally think of you as a level headed guy and a good pilot.

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Not unlike yourself, who created your alter ego over a year ago, and only use it when it suits your needs? By your own admission on this thread, you use it so none of us can know who we're dealing with, yet you know us all personally? I see no difference...

Kryptic don't add stretching the truth that borders on bald face lies to your act as well. I never said anything about creating an alter ego that I use only when I need to. I certainly said no where that I use it so none can know who they are dealing with and I never said I know us all

I have twice as many normal post as I have off topic post and I didn't just invent a name the previous day to possibly jump into the middle of controversal conversation, maybe the guy didn't do that. However, all I said was the guy posted for the first time the day before and came out swinging. Even you didn't do that.
07-07-2008 12:20 PM
 
 
50feet
Key Veteran
Location: Wilmington, Delaware

For all you cowboy that want to shoot first and ask questions later....

I hope you get the same thanks when you pull your gun trying to be a hero and the you head blown off because the criminals in this case are armed. But I guess that will never happen because you are all the fastest guns in the west.

And I hope the criminals buddies don't come by and pay you a visit.....

To trust no one is to trust everyone equally
07-07-2008 12:21 PM
 
 
SSN Pru
Elite Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

I'm willing to bet you that most any citizen who is carrying practices at a range and is a much better shot than most criminals.
07-07-2008 12:58 PM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

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For all you cowboy that want to shoot first and ask questions later.... I hope you get the same thanks when you pull your gun trying to be a hero and the you head blown off because the criminals in this case are armed. But I guess that will never happen because you are all the fastest guns in the west. And I hope the criminals buddies don't come by and pay you a visit....
Time after time you've shown yourself to be blind regarding the fundamentals of existence, and you've eloquently done so once again. It's good when fools are utterly unable to hide their shortcomings. Thanks (again) for the heads up.

Oh, and . . .
07-07-2008 01:06 PM
 
 
kryptik
Heliman
Location: South Carolina

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Kryptic don't add stretching the truth that borders on bald face lies to your act as well. I never said anything about creating an alter ego that I use only when I need to. I certainly said no where that I use it so none can know who they are dealing with and I never said I know us all
You can edit your posts all you like, I don't really care. I made a comment based on what I read from your postings. You twice eluded to the fact that we could not know who we was behind your handle, but that you knew who we were, then you tried to give evidence to such. You have an incomplete profile, created long ago, which has only recently become fairly active in off topics. Most all of your posts are dealing with funflys around Texas, or this thread(with the occasional Obama rant). With the level of trolling that appears here, this type of thing is becoming more and more common. Who knows, maybe more of us should start playing this way...on second thought, never mind. This is just an internet forum, merely a place for me to pass the time until external circumstances change. This is all in fun, and great fun it is. Anyhoo, back to the topic.
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I hope you get the same thanks when you pull your gun trying to be a hero and the you head blown off because the criminals in this case are armed.
Yeah man, you are so right. It would be much better to sit back, watch them rape your wife and daughter, and then kill you all one at a time, right? After all, they're just rebellious kids... No sir, sometimes you have to take a stand, just because it's the right thing to do. If you continue to let criminals take what they want, then they will only grow more bold in their crimes. There comes a point and time when drastic measures are required to ensure the safety of society. You bleeding heart little sympathizers really are not to be considered, in the grand scheme anyway. This was evident in this case. Quackbar X, or whatever his name was, and all the other folks that gathered at his home to protest, and all the people that cried "murder" all across the country, were all told what your criminal loving philosophy was worth. Absolutely nothing. Shut up, and move to the side. Let this man return home. Boy, it sure must suck to have picked such a losing side. Your opinions matter only to yourselves in this regard, as was shown when no charges were filed against Horn. A precident has been set, it is okay to kill worthless criminals in Texas, even if they are robbing someone else.
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And I hope the criminals buddies don't come by and pay you a visit.....
Criminals are actually a good thing in this regard. Usually you only have to kill a couple of them, and the rest take off. They are cowards, and scum, and have no honor. That "revenge for our fallen friend" crap usually just happens in the movies. Criminals don't even care about themselves, let alone each other. That is clear in the case with Horn. Neither of them came to the other's aid. They were to busy trying to save their own, pathetic a$$es. In futility, I might add.

"Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding..."

If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't ...
07-07-2008 02:03 PM
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RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

50feet

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You guys need to stop your holier than thou BS...

Your holier than thou crap is ANY different?

Irony score 10/10.

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I wonder what you would think if this were your freaking brothers dead...

It sucks, I hate Horn, why did my brothers lead a life a crime.

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You are not shooting any one... Your talking tough guy crap Your gun does not make you a tough guy and if you think it does you are a p***Y thats scared to or cant give or take a beating. Probably got bullied in school or turned down by your local PD.

Nice, the best you can do is make BS comments? This little rant proves your argument is pure emotion...Since you do not seem able to control yours.

For example...your comment here:

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Does every kid going through a rebellious phase that may commit a couple of petty crimes going to evolve in to a killer...?

These were not kids, they were adults. This was not a rebellious phase, these two had felony convictions. This was not a petty crime, it was B&E.

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And I hope the criminals buddies don't come by and pay you a visit.....

They would not since they know he is armed...Criminals tend to prey on the weak...Just like bullies.

I even agree with you that Horn should not have shot them...But you are ranting and losing any high ground you had by your flat out diatribe against anything gun related.

Only YOU are wishing pain and death on posters here for disagreeing with your opinions.

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Are you saying since the cop was there it was justified? I question why he did not get out and stop this from happening?

Exactly, a cop was right there and did nothing...so much for just trusting them to protect you.

dick smith

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He shot them after the fact.......your nra dunce hat is in your eyes, take it off and open your eyes................

As soon as you take off your Brady cap. All you bring is emotions to a topic you really know nothing about and that has no effect on you at all.

RC/helicopman

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I never said anything about creating an alter ego that I use only when I need to

No, but you do hide. Making statements that you know others, but never step into the light yourself.
07-07-2008 02:52 PM
 
 
spog
Senior Heliman
Location: Ontario, Canada

My younger brother broke into my house through a window while I was on vacation. I'm glad none of you psychos live in my neighborhood. This is why people are found guilty by a jury in a court of law. I have no faith in my neighbors dispensing cowboy justice.
07-07-2008 05:17 PM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

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My younger brother broke into my house through a window while I was on vacation.

Would your neighbors recognize your brother? If they did, they wouldn't shoot him. Would your brother stop if someone with a gun told him to? If so, then he probably wouldn't get shot. Would they call the police (like Horn did) if they saw your house being broken into?

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I'm glad none of you psychos live in my neighborhood.

The funniest thing about this thread is you anti-gun guys that live in countries where hand guns have been banned. It is overwhelmingly obvious that you guys need to live in a nanny state, because you couldn't fend for yourselves if you had to. The one common denominator between all of you anti-gun people is that you call anyone who owns a gun demeaning names. Does that make you guys feel better about yourselves?

The 911 call reveals that the thieves came at Horn when he confronted them. He was within his rights to shoot and kill the thieves.


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07-07-2008 05:41 PM
 
 
bagobitz
Veteran
Location: saddleworth,lancs,UK

Although I'm a pacifist, I'm with the "pro-gun"lobby on this one.

"Great" Britain is now WORSE than the "wild west" BECAUSE we have NO LEGAL HANDGUNS....the criminal fraternity are having their street shoot-outs with impunity (mostly among themselves, predominantly drug dealing related)
I'm quite happy for them to kill each other, but when it's a public arena and when innocent bystanders are injured and killed.....then it becomes EVERY citizen's problem.

If "joe scum" knows that SOME of his potential victims WILL LEGALLY CARRY ARMS.....he'll think a lot more carefully before loosing-off in public.

In the case in question, the miscreants had clear warning and opportunity to STOP, DROP THE PROCEEDS OF THEIR CRIME.
They chose to argue with a SHOTGUN

Darwinism selects the fittest to survive.

I wish we were still allowed handguns.....I've never had one,nor used one, but i'd like the option open.

As already pointed out, the plain-clothes "upholder of the law" who was PAID to enforce it, Just sat in the TAXPAYER'S car and WATCHED

If I'd been his boss, he'd have been charged with dereliction of duty, unless he had a damned good excuse for aiding the escape by wilful inaction.
I'd sooner have a neighbour like Joe Horn, than the do-nothing cop.
07-07-2008 09:56 PM
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

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Darwinism selects the fittest to survive.
Comforting and true, until you consider that one of mankind's uglier evolved traits is the capacity (through deception, etc) to sometimes sidestep the fundamental viability of this aspect of existence. Lots of worthless 'tumors' manage to find ways to live FAR longer than makes good common sense.

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I'd sooner have a neighbour like Joe Horn, than the do-nothing cop.
You and me both.

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07-07-2008 10:08 PM
 
 
HotsHabit
Veteran
Location: Idaho

After reading all the posts on this topic, I must say that I am thoroughly dissappointed in some of the responses.

How anyone can take the criminals side on this matter is beyond me. These were two career criminals, not kids on a lark. They broke into a house in broad daylight, that takes huge balls or no brains. They tried to run when confronted with the shotgun instead of dropping to the ground like they should have.

All of you people trying to defend the criminals in this matter need to get up out of your little safe spot in your house and go down to the local prison and adopt a few of these criminals. Bring them to your house and take care of them. Watch as they steal everything you have, rape and murder your family then put a bullet in your head. Here is a websight that will explain it further for those of you that cant quite grasp reality...

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

It is people like you that defend these criminals that make it harder to prosecute and get rid of this scourge to our society.

Lets all quit "what if'ing" this situation and turning it into something it is not. Stick with the facts of THIS situation. Joe Horn is a hero and I hope and pray that all my neighbors were just like him.
07-07-2008 10:20 PM
 
 
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