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Radio - JR & Spektrum DSM > Importing X9309 to U.K.

MrMel
Elite Veteran
Location: Lidingo, Sweden

My US X9303 has CE markings on it (the radio itself)

Dont know about the X9303 power levels, but DX7 had an Avg of 100mw, where Swedish law said max 100mw, unfortunally the US version peaked higher then 100mw while keeping the avg at or below.

So basically the same thing, falling on the method of measurment.
As of today the airplane guys cant still get a legal DX7 here in Sweden...

Interesting part is that I read the manual for my home wireless media player, it puts out 1.5watt, and was it purchased in Sweden.. go figure.

11-16-2007 06:31 PM

Richard
Veteran
Location: Scottish Borders, U.K.

Check this link.

http://www.saaweb.org.uk/yabbse/index.php?topic=868.new;topicseen#new

Oh **** ! this is going to be expensive?

11-17-2007 12:13 AM

Barney
Key Veteran
Location: Inverness Scotland

Richard..I don't want to deflate your ballon...but.

I think if you check the CE mark the exclamation mark that follows possibly means that certification is only applicable to certain European Countries laws...or something like that.

TBH it would have been far better from the outset if all the importers just kept there traps shut and just imported it recognising the CE labelling.

Even the powers that be, couldn't make there minds up how it should have been tested

Now we are probably stuck with a compromised underpowered system instead of a Global standard. Yet again weve been had.

Going by the range checks I've done (providing the radio we tested was working properly) The ground range was 1/4-1/3rd of my early UK sourced DX7 which is worrying.

The BMFA should be pressing the government for implementation of a/the 'world wide standard' This is no wi-fi toy we are playing with. Safety has to be our first concern and a cut down power version is not the answer.

11-17-2007 01:39 AM

Yug
rrProfessor
Location: Niatirb Taerg

Barney - so youve used an early and recent version of the DX7 ?

A thought just occurred to me regarding all this legal bollocks; so what happens when we have an international competition like 3DM and the yanks bring over their 'overpowered' txes. Are they forbidden to use them by law ? this is getting ugly

Vegetable rights and Peace

11-17-2007 01:43 AM

Barney
Key Veteran
Location: Inverness Scotland

see the CE !...?

Iv'e one of he first DX7's and when we range checked my friends early Spektrum module for a 9X2 the range was almost identicial..both about 110-115 paces with model at grond level button pressed.

Another friend got a Speccie module and his 9X2 only rangechecks 32 paces.. recommended test is 30 paces!

11-17-2007 02:04 AM

Yug
rrProfessor
Location: Niatirb Taerg

What was the Tx antenna orientation ? folded horizontally ?

Vegetable rights and Peace

11-17-2007 02:06 AM

Barney
Key Veteran
Location: Inverness Scotland

Edited the photo..

No straight out.. All tested in same way..

There not even in the same ballpark. I posted about the lack of range and this seems to be the norm for UK specs

11-17-2007 02:10 AM

Yug
rrProfessor
Location: Niatirb Taerg

Yeah, mine was about 30 - 40 paces streight out but 90-100 when crooked horizontally. So it looks mine is legal. DAMMIT, I had hopes but sadly it looks like mine is a BORING legal Tx. Bollocks and double bollocks.
Time to warm up the soldering iron and tweek the power to 1W no less. I want a 40 mile range

Vegetable rights and Peace

11-17-2007 02:16 AM

Barney
Key Veteran
Location: Inverness Scotland

Yep..I think it a big oppurtunity missed.

BMFA should have got in tow with the CAA and explain how safe it could make our hobby..OOPPPSS SPORT

Crickey, were mostly in the middle of nowhere anyways.

Range..best I ever got was my Futaba 'M' series 27mhz AM on blue of all channels (CB calling frequency)

I once flew it cuddlebox style with a leccie glider sitting in a chair using binnoculars after I hooked a decent thermal..it got so small I had to bring it home on the motor..not even a glitch.

Even better there was a row of Pylons between me and the model the whole time..Ah! those were the days when we had a summer..

11-17-2007 02:30 AM

Richard
Veteran
Location: Scottish Borders, U.K.

Hi Barney,
I'm not upset or dismayed in anyway but after all this discussion I've gone with the Spektrum plug in module meantime.

Oh **** ! this is going to be expensive?

11-17-2007 11:07 AM

Wot
Heliman
Location: England

In a earlier post the "CE" mark was mentioned and that some have a exclamation mark after the CE and this could possibly be a problem for the UK market.
I got my DX7 from the states and checked mine pronto.Just my luck,exclamation mark after "CE".
BUT then i thought i would look at my JR 9xii.The CE mark had no exclamation mark.So i thought the exclamation mark did have some meaning to it.Then i looked at my Futaba T7CP,That had a exclamation mark after the CE and that was purchased in the UK.So what does it all mean.still worrieed about the DX7 i went to my LHS and lokked at the DX6 and DX7 in the show case and both had a exclamation mark.So sod it i am not bothered now.

11-18-2007 12:31 PM

extreme3d
Heliman
Location: West London, UK

Non-harmonised frequency marking

CE marking and explanation mark.

http://www.conformance.co.uk/logos/rtte/rtte_logo.php

Quote
The R&TTE Directive contains a requirement that equipment which utilises a non-harmonised frequency band must go through a special notification procedure before it can be legally CE marked and sold. Such equipment must also be marked with a warning symbol to draw the user's attention to the fact that it might not be legal to use the equipment in every member state.

11-18-2007 12:46 PM

Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

CE marks

What ever happenend to the good ol BS kite mark.

11-20-2007 11:41 PM

Wot
Heliman
Location: England

The "BS kite mark" was found to be sharp when stamped onto plastic causing severe fingertip injuries.Also it was offensive to kite fliers.So it was removed to avoid court cases. : )

11-21-2007 09:31 AM

pupmeister
New Heliman
Location: earth, earth

On the topic of importing spektrum systems to various parts of the world.

Is there any difference between the receivers from country to country, ie if I bought a receiver from the States would there be any problem with using it with an Australian certified TX

Thanks
Pupmeister

11-24-2007 07:21 PM

Dood
Elite Veteran
Location: America's Dairyland

The section of the manual regarding usage in other countries had indeed been changed months ago.

I found the CD that came with my radio yesterday, containing the ORIGINAL .pdf file. I had one of the first x9303's in the States.

Anyone who wants to print it out for their records, is more than welcome. I'm not suggesting anything here, just putting it up here for reference.

This is the last part of the manual (5 pages) that was affected by the change.
http://runryder.com/helicopter/gall...03_Warranty.zip

"El Dooderino" if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

04-23-2008 07:35 PM

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