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Henseleit 3DNT - Rocket - 3DMP > Best Gyro for 3dmpe
 
 
uffe40
Heliman
Location: Grillby SWEDEN

HI what do you think about csm 720 gyro will it work whit volz servo
Thanks uffe
10-30-2007 07:26 PM
 
 
NOLONGERFLYING
Veteran
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

no experience here, but the 401 is the most typical choice for the 3dmp-e

If you dont succeed the first time, try and try again. With heli's keep on trying!
10-30-2007 07:50 PM
 
 
g2loq
Senior Heliman
Location: Montreal - QC - Canada

It seems that it is a great gyro for the 3dmp after reading this post:
http://runryder.com/helicopter/t251...ht=csm+720+3dmp
Don't know if it work with the Volz tail servo
I have a 3dmp with a Gy611 and an other with a Gy401 and I must say that there is a big difference with the 611. Maybe I will have 2 x Gy611 soon
10-30-2007 07:53 PM
 
 
NOLONGERFLYING
Veteran
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

obviously if you got with the 611 as g2 stated you will want to dump the volz tail servos and use the 9256 and a quick uk server tail mount.

I know he has had some issues with the volz tail servos going out on a few ocassion, havent had this happen to me yet, but I am pretty sure he flies his alot more then mine.

I agree though the 611/9256 I once had mounted on mine is far superior then the 401/volz servo combo

If you dont succeed the first time, try and try again. With heli's keep on trying!
10-30-2007 07:55 PM
 
 
uffe40
Heliman
Location: Grillby SWEDEN

Many thanks guy`s i am thinking of try volz on 6v and csm720 can someone tell me what could happen whit the volz tailservo will it burn up or?
Best Regardes
Uffe
10-30-2007 09:41 PM
 
 
g2loq
Senior Heliman
Location: Montreal - QC - Canada

I already burned 2 volz motors on 5.4 and 5.6 volts... then good luck with 6V
I'am no more confident with the Volz tail servo but it is only due to my bad experience. When it burned, it jammed the 2 times in a turn position, then my 3dmp continued to spin even after I cutted the throttle....
10-30-2007 09:49 PM
 
 
laughingstill
Key Veteran
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

Not to get off topic but....

Does anyone have a servo recommendation for the 3DMPXL-E other than the volz servos?

3DMP-E, Logo 6003D, Logo103D Carbon and Trex 450se Flyin Firefighter
10-30-2007 09:52 PM
 
 
g2loq
Senior Heliman
Location: Montreal - QC - Canada

Quote 
Does anyone have a servo recommendation for the 3DMPXL-E other than the volz servos?
I'am not sure Jan recommend volz servo for 3dmpxl-E... This a regular size servo for the cyclic on this big heli
For the regular 3dmp, there is no other choice than Volz Micro Maxx X. And this servos for the cyclic are just prefect!
10-30-2007 10:45 PM
 
 
laughingstill
Key Veteran
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

OHHH! that's great. I wonder how the 9252s will work and a 611 combo for the tail. I think i will do some more research...Ron

3DMP-E, Logo 6003D, Logo103D Carbon and Trex 450se Flyin Firefighter
10-31-2007 01:08 AM
 
 
NOLONGERFLYING
Veteran
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

Yes, the XL-E uses full size servos. I had the V-91 basically the sme thing as the XL-E, used full size servos. I would probably use the new JR8717's or Futaba 9451 and go with the 611/9256 for tail imo.

If you dont succeed the first time, try and try again. With heli's keep on trying!
10-31-2007 01:22 AM
 
 
laughingstill
Key Veteran
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

Quote 
I would probably use the new JR8717's or Futaba 9451 and go with the 611/9256 for tail imo.
Instead of the 9252? Why? Is it faster? I do not know the specs....Ron

3DMP-E, Logo 6003D, Logo103D Carbon and Trex 450se Flyin Firefighter
10-31-2007 01:28 AM
 
 
NOLONGERFLYING
Veteran
Location: Scottsdale, AZ

8717 are about two times as quick with triple the torque. The 9451 are metal gears vs. nylon gears as well along with quicker, dont know the exact specs on them, but better then 9252's. I think 9252's are adequate on 50 size helis, I would personally use a metal gear servo on the 90 sizes as servo tech has gotten better, just my thoughts though.

If you dont succeed the first time, try and try again. With heli's keep on trying!
10-31-2007 02:12 AM
 
 
laughingstill
Key Veteran
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

Thanks...Ron

3DMP-E, Logo 6003D, Logo103D Carbon and Trex 450se Flyin Firefighter
10-31-2007 04:22 AM
 
 
helinutz
Senior Heliman
Location: Bournemouth, Dorset, UK

Back to the original post, I am running a 720 on my 3DMP, but have fitted a raptor 60 boom mount kit so I can run an 8700 full size servo. This was a substantial improvement on the 401/voltz combo that was on there before.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that
10-31-2007 10:21 AM
 
 
uffe40
Heliman
Location: Grillby SWEDEN

Hi and Many Thanks Helinutz ,,i will go for a boom mount kit whit a better tailservo and csm 720, but can you run the cyclic servo on 6v
Thanks uffe
10-31-2007 12:04 PM
 
 
helinutz
Senior Heliman
Location: Bournemouth, Dorset, UK

I'm pretty certain my voltage reg is set at 5.7V, but will double check when I get home.
I havnt had any issues at that voltage since fitting the reg 2 years ago.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that
10-31-2007 01:58 PM
 
 
helinutz
Senior Heliman
Location: Bournemouth, Dorset, UK

Just found this spec

Volz Micro Maxx-X Digital Servo
Gears: All Metal
Bearing: Ball Bearing
Weight: 19g / 0.67 oz
Voltage: 4,8 - 6,0 Volts
Torque: 40 - 48 Ncm / 56 - 67 oz. in
Speed: 0,18 - 0,13 sec. 60º
Deflection: 2 x 45º

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that
10-31-2007 02:03 PM
 
 
uffe40
Heliman
Location: Grillby SWEDEN

Hi check this mount on the tailservo http://www.rc-heli.de/board/index.php?topic=64663.0
uffe
10-31-2007 03:08 PM
 
 
helinutz
Senior Heliman
Location: Bournemouth, Dorset, UK

That would do it as well, although your limited on servo arm length as its very close to the boom bracket.
As with the Raptor boom mount brackets, its best to flip the tail pitch lever to the bottom of the boom. You can get a nice straight run, and dont really need any support for the carbon push rod (I used a slightly thicker on than the standard 3DMP one)

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that
10-31-2007 03:49 PM
 
 
uffe40
Heliman
Location: Grillby SWEDEN

Hi do you have a pic on your 3dmpe tail and servo mount
Uffe
10-31-2007 04:29 PM
 
 
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