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Radio - JR & Spektrum DSM > DSX9 (UK 9303) 2.4GHz NEWS ?
 
 
Mike Moore
Senior Heliman
Location: Canford Heath, Poole, Dorset UK

I think that there are many UK flyers looking and listening for the arrival of the DSX9, but when will it be and who will be selling them here in the UK ? As yet I haven't been able to find out what they will cost here either ? Brentford RC have a little pre arrival info, but not much ! http://www.brentfordrc.co.uk/script...?idproduct=1138
Waiting .....
10-28-2007 05:04 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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10-28-2007 08:55 PM
 
 
Mike Moore
Senior Heliman
Location: Canford Heath, Poole, Dorset UK

Thanks for that, I'm sure there are lots of us UK flyers waiting ?
10-29-2007 10:21 AM
 
 
Captain Crazy
Senior Heliman
Location: Wakefield, England

I heard it will be out around march'08 in the UK. No idea of price though.
10-31-2007 11:57 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-01-2007 01:56 AM
 
 
Climax
Senior Heliman
Location: West London, United Kingdom

Hi Mac_Man,

Assuming that you are in the process of getting approval, can you confirm what the output power will be?

Will it be the 10mW as per the Euro regs for DSSS (for a 1MHz spread), or will it be the same as the UK version of the DX7?
11-01-2007 09:44 AM
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9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-01-2007 11:24 AM
 
 
Climax
Senior Heliman
Location: West London, United Kingdom

That's interesting, I wonder if in reality the significant part of the transmitted signal occupies more or less than 1MHz?

There is an analyzer screenshot showing the DX6 bandwidth as 834kHz (measured at the -3dB shoulders), take a look at:

http://spektrumdx6.com/default.aspx

I imagine that each of the DX7 channels would be similar if not in fact the same. I need to get the right IF module for my analyzer, as I’m dying to find out what the output actually looks like etc. Have you (or has any one else) done this?
11-01-2007 12:38 PM
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9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-01-2007 01:05 PM
 
 
Mike Moore
Senior Heliman
Location: Canford Heath, Poole, Dorset UK

CAPTAIN CRAZY where did you hear that the DSX9 won't be here in the UK until march ?
I sure hope it's sooner than that ?
11-04-2007 07:38 PM
 
 
AAKEE
Senior Heliman
Location: Boden, Sweden

Climax ---> I got my Dx7 measured by another guy, he works with building TX / RX stuff for other purposes then R/C.

As we believed that the DX7 was approved as a DSSS system we measured by 'peak hold'. The total bandwith we saw was 20mhz for each DSM2 channel. So that would allow 200mW...?

But a bird wispered in my ear that the approwment is for FHSS, and this is possible somehow...so its a DSSS system but approwed as FHSS ?

I´ll try to attach a pic from our test.

11-04-2007 08:50 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-04-2007 11:52 PM
 
 
Wot
Heliman
Location: England

Mike Moore,

I was waiting and trying to find out details for the DSX9 release.
Then 3 model shops all said the same thing "march".
I had a 9xii,which to be honest was way to much radio for my needs AND flying ability but i like the JR feel and quality.I will not wait that long so i a DX7 and the 9XII is back in box ready to go on ebay.
11-05-2007 09:27 AM
 
 
AAKEE
Senior Heliman
Location: Boden, Sweden

Mac_man:

The measuring tool, I dont know the name, Im the DX7 owner and another guy had the equipment at his job.

We measured the power with conductive measurement: stock antenna disabeld and connected the measuring machine via a cable with the same type of connector as stock antenna. This means all output power goes in to the measuring machine. The stock antenna is supposed to give a gain of a couple of db´s(about 2db).

The measuring machine had a maximum power range of 20db(would be the same as 100mw, if I got it right). Thats the reason for flat top, the power in that part seems to exceed 20db/100mw...but this measurement is peak hold, so every burst of power will be seen, even those peak´s that came 5minutes ago.
As I understood it, Dx7 has a transmitting time of 1/10.

I took another pic with the cellphone, will look for it...it was another type of measurement, that gave us the answer how it was above the top that dont show in the first picture I posted.
Seems that the peaks wont go much higher then 20db, perhaps 2-3db more.

When I read the ETSI EN v 1.7.1 I understood that the max allowed power is average but correcded for how many % of the time you really transmit (ie 10% or less for Dx7)..
I read ETSI EN v 1.7.1, but not thorougly enough to do a perfect measurement...I learned a lot when we did this test so we where about to do it again, but then 4 of my closest colleges at my work died in a heli collision, so all of my interrest for this dissapered.
It was 2 months ago so now Im back, we will perhaps do another test again, this time according to the ETSI regulations.
( All this started when a lot og ppl started saying that all Dx7 was illegal, even the EU-type...we were interrested in looking it up.)

I believe that the Dx7 named 2712E ( EU-version ) is legal.
11-05-2007 07:46 PM
 
 
heli3000
Heliman
Location: Germany

Resolution

Hi there,
Does anyone knows if the DSX9 has also the 2048 resolution like the X9303 has? I understand that JR hasnt told you everything yet Mac_man, but if they did, please post it here.

Thank you very much.
11-05-2007 08:57 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-06-2007 12:13 AM
 
 
Mike Moore
Senior Heliman
Location: Canford Heath, Poole, Dorset UK

Hi All,
I've been told recently that the new DSX9 will not be here in the UK until March 2008. Is this really true ?
I know they have stock in the US in X9303 form. I know unfortunately does not comply with the UK regulations. http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=159233
11-07-2007 10:45 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-07-2007 11:36 PM
 
 
Mike Moore
Senior Heliman
Location: Canford Heath, Poole, Dorset UK

Just thinking out aloud here, so be kind please with your comments...
I down loaded a manual for the JR X9303 to get some advance info while I'm waiting for the UK spec DSX9 to arrive here and read on page 203 the following -

FCC Information
FCC ID: BRWDAMTX10
IC: 6157A-BRWDAMT
This device complies with part 15 of the FCC rules.
Operation is subject to the following two conditions:
(1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and
(2) this device must accept any interference received,
including interference that may cause undesired operation.
Caution: Changes or modifications not expressly
approved by Horizon Hobby, Inc. could void the
user’s authority to operate the equipment.
This product contains a radio transmitter with wireless
technology which has been tested and found to be
compliant with the applicable regulations governing a
radio transmitter in the 2.400GHz to 2.4835GHz frequency
range.
The following countries associated regulatory agencies
recognizing the noted certifications for this product as
authorized for sale and use are:
USA Canada Belgium
Denmark France Finland
Germany Italy Netherlands
Spain Sweden UK
Ireland Australia


Now before you all tell me that this was a print error please continue reading the info blow that I read on the Horizon UK website...

DX7 POWER OUTPUT LEVELS: US vs. EU
Some Spektrum DX7 transmitters and manuals sold to US retailers may have been mislabeled regarding compliance with European Union broadcast regulations. DX7 transmitters that are sold for use in the US exceed the power limits in place in the European Union(EU). Updates are being made to remove this icon from units and manuals that do not meet these standards. If you are an EU consumer and have purchased a radio from a retailer outside the EU prior to this notice and you suspect that your DX7 does not comply with these regulations, contact Horizon Hobby UK’s service centre. If necessary, we will arrange for the re-programming of your radio to the correct EC specification.


My point here is that could this re-programming be applied to a JR X9303 purchased from the US for use in the UK ? Mmmm ???

I'm sure this is going to put the cat among the pigeons !

I've emailed Horizon UK regarding re-programming a US X9393 for use here in the UK and will post the reply.
11-07-2007 11:46 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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11-08-2007 12:02 AM
 
 
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