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Robbe Cuatro - Millennium - Nova - Dyna-X > Robbe Experiences 2007
 
 
kej
Heliman
Location: Denmark

No, I do not think Alex sells them. They are from some old Futura/Millinium push/pull kit. In any case they do not increase the pitch range on my model, as the range is limited by other components. But yes, compared to more recent models, the pitch range seems less on the Dyna. Maybe we should 'investigate' how maximise it without making longer main shaft.

Awesome pictures Wemo and bcopters500!

I'm a model heli pilot, If you see me run please try to keep up!
03-20-2008 08:26 AM
 
 
Jarno
Veteran
Location: Finland

Longer washout arms will give wider pitch range, but I guess you guys both have them already.

How's your Cuatro thing Kim?

Regards

Jarno
FAI F3C is my cup of coffee
03-20-2008 02:18 PM
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Ramster
Senior Heliman
Location: NJ

Longer washout arms will not increase the pitch range, however the M3 style longer mixing levers like robbe part # S4936 will add about 2 deg.

Robbe head’s pitch range can be maximized to + 17.5 -17.5, but that is a VERY modified robbe head.
03-20-2008 04:39 PM
 
 
Jarno
Veteran
Location: Finland

Thanks for correcting me Ron and sorry for giving wrong information guys. I just did not think it through well enough before answering.

Well this is what you get when you try to read and write some hobby stuff at work.

Jarno
FAI F3C is my cup of coffee
03-20-2008 08:08 PM
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kej
Heliman
Location: Denmark

Yes, the M3 mixer arms helps a little, but I think they also reduce flybar2main mix ratio. Somebody really should make a 10mm longer main shaft. Please Ron

My Quatro is coming along nicely. I really should focus on my flying with the Dyna for 3DM, but I look forward to flying the Quatro for fun, and therefore spend time on building that also.

My fleet is now too big... DynaX, Electric Millinium 12S, Quatro and TR600. If you ever forget to apreciate how the Robbe machines fly take a TR600 for a few flights and then the Robbe
The TR600 is fun, but it certainly flies very different. Maybe it is just the size. I guess we will know that by the end of this year when we are all buying TR700 for some unknown reason

I'm a model heli pilot, If you see me run please try to keep up!
03-20-2008 11:56 PM
 
 
Jarno
Veteran
Location: Finland

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My fleet is now too big

Well talking about big fleet I got three Cuatros. They take some space in my hobby room at least.

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I guess we will know that by the end of this year when we are all buying TR700 for some unknown reason

Not me. I will fly Robbe helicopters until the spares are out or my models are so worn out that they evaporate in the air.

For some reason I just love the way the Robbe models fly.

Good luck Kim on your practise for 3DM! I will keep my thumbs up for you. I will concentrate this summer on F3C again as the last season was more or less off with my flying due to too much work.

Jarno
FAI F3C is my cup of coffee
03-22-2008 09:38 AM
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kej
Heliman
Location: Denmark

This year I have changed job, and considering we also have a 16month old girl to take care of my practise possibilities are limited this season. 3DM is however such a great experiences that I will do it anyway, and just calibrate my ambitions to 'avoiding last place'
Could be hard enough.
One good thing is that I have given the Dyna a weight loss by using medium size throttle servo, smaller Rx LiPo and other minor things. With 1950 on the head it has really increased in repsonse. It is better than ever. I also expect to install YS91SR, which hopefully will add further to the performance.

Jarno, will you do F3C Eueopean Championship in France with a Quatro or Dyna this year?
Also, I have found big differences in various blade weight for the Quatro, what is to prefere for soft 3D on that ship?

I'm a model heli pilot, If you see me run please try to keep up!
03-22-2008 11:27 AM
 
 
Qrrambero
Veteran
Location: San Francisco / Bay Area

kej;
Please post your experience with the Electric Milli after you fly it. I am working in one myself. What speed control do you recommend? I have the Actro motor.

Ae
03-22-2008 03:15 PM
 
 
kej
Heliman
Location: Denmark

After rebuilding to 12S and the extra high pack mounting plates I have only flown 4 flights. I have used 12S 4450 V-Power and 12S 5000 V-Power. Like any other 12S electric the power is crazy. Manouvres are made much larger than with the nitros. Climb outs are incredible. I use 11T pinion on 8mm Actro shaft. My controller is Castle Creation 110A version. I guess you can buy that pretty cheap in the US. So far it behaves flawlessly in the air. Its mechanical design is however far behind the Kontronik Power Jazz, and its programming would never have succeded for me without the Finless Bob video.
It is pretty cold in Denmark now, but so far the packs and motor are not warm at all after a flight. I guess that also means the packs deliver even more power in the summer

I'm a model heli pilot, If you see me run please try to keep up!
03-22-2008 10:53 PM
 
 
Qrrambero
Veteran
Location: San Francisco / Bay Area

Castle Creations.. mmm. I was thinking about the Actronic. I had a Joker in the past, and It came with the Actronic and I never had problems with it.
Castle Creation has a very good price and Actronic cost twice the amount of Castle C.
I never had to program the Actronic. What programing are you using? Could you send me a link where I can read about it?
Thanks,

Ae
03-23-2008 06:59 AM
 
 
kej
Heliman
Location: Denmark

Programming is done via PC link:
http://www.rcmarket.org/castle-link...t-pr-15570.html
It is very easy to set all parameters, the tricky part was to make the throttle calibration. CC support has however been very quick at answering my questions.
I have no experience with the Actro controller, but if you are going to pay that much checkout the Power Jazz.

I'm a model heli pilot, If you see me run please try to keep up!
03-23-2008 07:32 AM
 
 
bcopters500
Senior Heliman
Location: Texas

Army Robbe

Thats all good with the ARH keep it flying.
03-28-2008 02:31 PM
 
 
Jarno
Veteran
Location: Finland

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Jarno, will you do F3C Eueopean Championship in France with a Quatro or Dyna this year?

Also, I have found big differences in various blade weight for the Quatro, what is to prefere for soft 3D on that ship?

As far as I know today I will not do the European Champs this year. I didn't take part in all the qualifying competitions for national team last season so I'm not in the team officially this year. I could go if some of the guys don't want to go to France of course...

V blades or NHP Razor Pro blades will do nice for 3D on Cuatro. I would also try the Rotortech blades too, but they're pretty heavy. I don't know how well they react but they should be pretty good on autorotations. I'm not sure if there are 800mm Maniac blades available. They could be pretty wicked too.

I'm using mostly Rotorsport and NHP Razor Pro blades on my ships. Rotorsports are definitely no no for 3D as they're way too flexible, but they do nice for F3C.

As for flight time you'll be amazed how long you will be able to fly that thing on gas. I took my F3C Cuatro out for three flights on weekend and logged 1 hour 30 minutes flying time with just those three flights. You can easily get 40 min per a tank of fuel. That's insane.

We had pretty nice weather here last weekend -5C and sunny. Here's a pic too after 27 minutes of flying. Check how much fuel I have left in the tank.

Jarno

Oh don't worry about my funny face haha...



Jarno
FAI F3C is my cup of coffee
03-31-2008 04:55 PM
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kej
Heliman
Location: Denmark

Jarno, sorry to hear about France. I was hoping you would bring the Dyna there. I always liked the idea that the Dyna can 'deliver' in bothF3C and 3D.

I (think) I see you use the QUK maingrips. I have just installed them on my Quatro, but due to their minor difference in geometry (2mm less from spindle centerline to maingrip link center line), I seem to get some binding at negative pitch during flybar deflection?
I would very much appreciate your comment on that please

I'm a model heli pilot, If you see me run please try to keep up!
03-31-2008 09:39 PM
 
 
bcopters500
Senior Heliman
Location: Texas

Quattro Cool Runnings!

Thats an amazing helicopter, you almost have to take a break to check your batteries, Very Good!
04-01-2008 01:41 AM
 
 
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