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Crashed? Discussion and Photos > should I cut the motor power when there's a mechanical failure?
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

I have had 2 recent crashes caused by mechanical failures.
Perhaps this might have been avoided with more thorough pre-flight checks, but...

1st crash;
I think a link came off one of the main rotor grips. So I had just about not control and did my best to bring it down gently.
That didn't go too well, landed nose first with a thud, broke a lot of stuff, 4 servos, shaft, boom, blades, etc.

2nd;
looks like the tail drive belt failed. Spinning like mad, had height control, but not very good direction. managed to bring it down a bit more gentler.
1 servo, boom, blades, dead.

My though is, if you have a mechanical failure such that you basically have no real control, is it best to hit the throttle hold, and kill the power to the motor, either straight away (like my 1st crash where I had no control), or at some point before crash landing (like my 2nd crash).

Then if you can try and auto a little that will help, and at least when the heli smacks in to the ground, there is no additional torque on the main rotors.Perhaps that might increase the chances of saving the blades, boom, motor gears etc.
Otherwise a heavy landing with the motor still running will increase the chances of more damage.
If you have no control over the heli and basically you are fighting a losing battle with the controls, perhaps that is an option, that might just make the difference is saving some parts.

(also as a though, if you have no control like the 1st crash, it would have been nice to have a magic button, to kill power to the receiver - to make all the servos go limp. Perhaps then 4 servos might have survived!).

So to summarise, what would you do if you lost most or all control because of a mechanical failure? (not talking about no power or rx going into failsafe, but no tail or cyclic or both).

I hear a lot about doing autos when you lose power, but I have not heard control loss mentioned
09-17-2007 09:05 PM
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gaanel
Senior Heliman
Location: Greenville, SC

Cut power

In both my electric and nitro I definitly cut power at any loss of tail control. That will stop the spinning of the heli.
For loss of any other control is is probably advisable to also cut power as the heli may get away from you and hurt something or somebody.
I have saved many a heli by autorotating in. And if you do crash it is not as tragic.
Gary

Member of the "Light Side"
09-17-2007 09:20 PM
 
 
Woody67
Heliman
Location: Powell River BC Canada

Been flying electric trex 450's for a long time, and CUTTING POWER when it get's away on you will save lots of $$$$$$$$$



My 2 cents, damn, can I borrow a nickel?
09-21-2007 04:51 AM
 
 
captainBLADE
Heliman
Location: VEGAS

definitely cut the power. keeps the heli from killing itself when it's on the ground. less momentum on the blades also lessens the blow.
09-22-2007 06:52 AM
 
 
vavavoom
Veteran
Location: London, England

If its bad enough that its going in then always hit the hold.
Removing the engine power will not stop it from crashing and breaking bits, but will prevent even more damage when the helicopter chicken dances around the ground on full power smashing itself to smithereens

## Inteligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit...Common sense is not putting it in a fruit salad
09-23-2007 11:08 AM
 
 
bobbyhill4x4
Senior Heliman
Location: Watertown NY

Cut power because it is mainly the rotor blades that do most of the damage.
09-23-2007 02:12 PM
 
 
spog
Senior Heliman
Location: Ontario, Canada

I agree, cut the power. I had a tail servo failure, cut the power and the heli landed softly in a bush. No damage at all, not even a bent flybar.
09-23-2007 03:46 PM
 
 
rudyy
Veteran
Location: E. Amherst, NY, USA

Without doubt .. hit the throttle hold and auto it to the ground at your very best. Hope this will impose the minimal damage to the heli.

Rudy
09-24-2007 02:02 AM
 
 
R/CBOONE72
Senior Heliman
Location: Winfield, ks - USA

My opinion is dont cut unless you know you can get it down, i lost a link, the long link on head in a choas, the blade started fluttering bad, i had to use ful collective on other blade, but it cam down, if i would have cut power it would havebeen in power lines or the tree. If you loose tail control, cut power and try to auto, take torque away, but if you know it wont come down with enough control to land gently, cut power, id stall blades out as much as i could but still have a little control.
09-30-2007 06:16 PM
 
 
eyeflyhelis
Elite Veteran
Location: charlotte nc

no way cut it and auto down, save lots of parts

only you have the power to make no difference!
**Modefo's Heli's**
10-05-2007 05:35 AM
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