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Crashed? Discussion and Photos > I Just Don't Understand
 
 
HeliMan08
Heliman
Location: PA

Hi I crashed my Blade CP+ a second time. The thing is all of E-Flites Helicopters have linkahe problems. I fixed one of the problems where the heli goes to the left sideways adjusted the linkage on the swash plate worked a little still bad linkage made me crash.
09-01-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Butch
Veteran
Location: New York

Relax! Take Five!
As with any new heli, slowly increase main rotor rpm (spool-up)until it gets light on it's skids. If you notice the heli having any abnormal tendencies, STOP...and adjust!

Same for when you're ready to lift into the air.

If you take the time to stop & adjust a few times(or as many times as needed), soon your heli will be able to lift up into hover with minimum(the usual) control inputs!

Good Luck

The Whirlybug Bit Me!
09-01-2007 Over year old.
 
 
bmw
Senior Heliman
Location: Lake Zurich U.S.A.

Butch has given you good advice
It still amazes me to watch new pilots just wanting to get into the air and NOT take the time to properly trim out their heli. Either the tail will start to go out or it will pitch to the left or the right and they will still try to get it up into the air and then wonder why they lose control

Runway? what runway??
09-01-2007 Over year old.
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plg.4
Heliman
Location: Gonic,N.H. USA

BMW,
You should really give the new guy a break; not all are experts such as you right off the line I am sure...not. It takes time to learn, and some learn faster and some slower, and some have the help right at the field. The sport and Runryder are for getting others into the sport not talking down to them. You help other's learn to enjoy the sport; great way to drive someone away by being condensending. This site is about helping others and your words were not about helping, but the good thing of your comments were shadowing the advice given by Butch. Stick with it and you will find good advice and will have fun... Butch has given you some good advice. Not all can be experts, but some do try to sound it. Good advice Butch! Take all advice with a grain of salt and use good judgement, and have fun...
09-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
bmw
Senior Heliman
Location: Lake Zurich U.S.A.

pig.4
I did not mean anything negative by my comment and if it was taken that way I'm sorry

I agree with you 100% about helping others on this site. My comment is what I have seen at the field and other places. I did the same thing when I was learning, I had the got to get it up and flying bug
and I crashed and learned.

HeliMan08 I hope you don't think I was trying to discourage you? because I was not.

Runway? what runway??
09-05-2007 Over year old.
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HeliMan08
Heliman
Location: PA

That means a lot to me BMW no harm done. I flew with collective pitch befor but the heli had no bugs it flew like a charm. But this new Blade CP+ is a little tricky I need to get a new Spindle shaft and some new blades then I will be set. I also need to make very small Trim adjustments too and I should be good.
09-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
mikeflyz
Senior Heliman
Location: Westlake Village, CA

Hello Heliman08

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thing is all of E-Flites Helicopters have linkahe problems. I fixed one of the problems where the heli goes to the left sideways adjusted the linkage on the swash plate worked a little still bad linkage made me crash.

What it sounds like you are suffering from is "translating tendency" (my apologies if you know this subject already).

This is a normal occurence in any helicopter with a tail rotor. It is even more pronounced with a light heli like the blade. The purpose of the tail rotor is to counter the torque generated from the main rotor blades, right? Right!

A side effect of the tail rotor is it also pushes the heli to the left. The pilot has to apply some right cyclic to stop it, which results in the heli hovering right skid low.

With the heli sitting level on the ground, there is nothing to oppose this left translating tendency. Applying right cyclic results in lifting the left skid off first and will continue to roll into the ground. Most people apply far too much right cyclic prior to liftoff, or maintain right cyclic after liftoff, resulting in a rollover to the right.

As a suggestion, raise the left skid/lower the right skid (a couple of ty-wraps around the left skid usually does it). If the heli is "pre-positioned" in the proper attitude in the hover, it should lift straight off. Adjust the skid heights as necessary so there is little or no drift prior to liftoff. Ideally, the attitude it has in the air should match that on the ground. After getting used to it, people usually give a little right cyclic prior to liftoff and center the controls just as it's lifting off.

Remember the heli should be trimmed for flight, not for the ground. It'll be difficult to tell if it's in trim until it's settled in a hover and nearly impossible for a Blade in the wind.

Happy Hovering.

Mike
MA Fury Extreme, Logo 600 and T-Rex
09-16-2007 Over year old.
 
 
#55
Senior Heliman
Location: Ft. Hood, TX

that's some good and accurate information- good post.

flying 60's in the Hood
09-16-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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