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RJX Hobby Hurrican 50 - Xtreme 50 > Aargh! Annoying engine twitch will not go away! - SOLVED!
 
 
Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

Aaaarghhh! I'm chasing an engine twitch in my Hurrican, and after spending (wasting) 4 hours last night, nothing made a difference!

It's a Hyper 50 with a CY MPII pipe. In a hover, the engine twitches or hesitates or whatever you want to call it. Of course when it twitches, the heli, or tail, also twitches back and forth.

So I got some good input from here, and last night I tore her apart and went to work. Here is what I did:

Checked header tank and drilled out inlet as it looked very small or even blocked. Sorry I don't have the size of the drill bit, but it's the smallest one that comes in a normal kit.

Removed head and re-installed (to check if head bolts were tight).

Replaced fuel lines.

Checked clunk lines - looked good (Hayes black).

Removed carb, disassembled, cleaned with carb cleaner, reassembled and reinstalled.

Replaced glow plug.

Today it acted exactly like it did last time I flew it!!! Aaaargh!!

Here's the really strange thing. I tried all kinds of needle settings, and it just didn't seem to make a big difference. I leaned it all the way to 1 1/4 turns, and only at 1 1/4 did it finally make a difference. I richened it to 2 full turns, and it still twitched. I even tried 2 1/2 turns, and it still twitched.

At the richer settings it only ran slightly cooler (109 backplate and around 195 head), and at the leaner settings it only ran slightly warmer (115 to 119 @ backplate, and around 200 at head). I was very surprised that these big needle setting differences did not see changes in the twitching or larger changes in temperature!

Any ideas where I need to spend my next 4 hours???

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!
08-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

Rock,

I know you've posted this over several different forums (I think) but I don't recall seeing the type of fuel you are using.....

That's about the only thing you can try next...... different fuel...
08-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

CY Wildcat 30%.

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!
08-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

Maybe worth while to try something different just to rule out the fuel...
08-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

I just put a gallon of Cool Power in my trunk. I'll try that next!

I think I will try leaning out the idle setting also........

THanks for the tip.................

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!
08-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

Wooo Hoooooooo! I solved my twitch issue

Yep, same problem, idle is too rich - it was WAY too rich. I started off with the pinch test:

1, 2, 3, 4.......10, 11, 12.......14, 15. Hmmmmmm, I'm thinking it's a little rich!

I had to turn the idle screw quite a bit, I'd say about 70 deg from the standard position, before it would lean out enough to get the count down to even 6 to 8 seconds. But this did the trick! It was running much better. Still not perfect and smooth, but much better!

Next step is to try another fuel. I was going to today, but I accidently put a gallon of the same fuel in the trunk - Doh!

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!
08-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
RjX of USA
Senior Heliman
Location: IL

twitch

it might go completely away with a couple more clicks lean, glad your getting it figured out.
08-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

It looks like this now:



Think I can go leaner? How many seconds do you expect in the pinch test when the idle is set just right?

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!
08-24-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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