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e-Ark X-400 - MX400 > Helimax better than TRex
 
 
binkyandbrain
Heliman
Location: cosby TN unitedstates

Who thinks the MX400 pro is just as good as the TRex? Not to even mention the MX 450.
08-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
AirmanBob
Senior Heliman
Location: U.S.A.

I think mine is as good...

But I'd say t-wrecks was better
if that's what I owned.

Bob
08-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
shuttlepilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Mullins, South Carolina

I flew a friend of mine's Trex 450. I have an mx 400 that I just mess around with. I really couldn't tell the difference enough to justify the price difference between the two.

Gas is Great
QWW Field Rep
08-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
AirmanBob
Senior Heliman
Location: U.S.A.

My son has the MX450 with the AMMO 28x45x2700
motor and an ACE 45 amp ESC.

That thing is awesome..it goes from a 1 foot
hover to 50 foot hover in the blink of an eye.

And the motor never gets hot...and the tail
stays put...GY401 gyro.

Its way more impressive than my MX400 Pro.
But I love my 400...

Don't try 3D with the stock blades that you
can see thru....they'll snap...

Bob
08-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
binkyandbrain
Heliman
Location: cosby TN unitedstates

Thanks guys that was my point.I have flew both the Trex SA was nothing but problem after problem.My MX 400 is very reliable and flies just as good as any TRex.
08-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hawkkw
Heliman
Location: Salem, Va

That's because you bought an SA. Remember what they said on the
Trex forum? The old SE kits are goin'(without the lipo) for about
$400 and everyone's buying them up around here. The SA is an improved
version of a Trex XL packaged in ARF form for Horizon. Actually,
in the hands of an experienced person, it should easily out perform
the MX's. MX's won't touch an SE however, 400 or 450. Been there,
done that. Try convincing someone else. Wait till you start free flying that that MX400, you just think you had problems. Won't
turn right, rudder control rod flexes out, tail pitch slider binds-
gyro can't function properly, can't even up the piro rates, tail belts stretch and fray prematurely, blades wont track and can't adjust them in because linkages are coarse threaded,... the list goes on.
08-13-2007 Over year old.
 
 
shuttlepilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Mullins, South Carolina

The most obvious problem that I can find with my MX400 is that the head will flex on the shaft. Other than that, for the money it is decent. I didn't say that it would 3d all over the sky, but it's not junk by no means.

Gas is Great
QWW Field Rep
08-13-2007 Over year old.
 
 
AirmanBob
Senior Heliman
Location: U.S.A.

Poor Hawk...Nobody in the T-Wrecks forum will
talk to him so he comes over to the MX400 site
to try and start up some crap.

You are pathetic....

AB
08-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hawkkw
Heliman
Location: Salem, Va

Bobs Social Outlet

There's no need to be in the T-rex forum. They work as advertised.
This forum used to be about working on MX400's but all of the
familiar names have moved on to better things and phased out
or sold off helimax's because they're money pits. The familiar
names were replaced by jerks like AirmanBob who use this as
their only Social Outlet. Get a life. That's truly pathetic!
Boy I know I'll loose my treasured "Heliman" status, but I
live for screwing with dip****s like yourself Bob. I thrive on
it!
08-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
binkyandbrain
Heliman
Location: cosby TN unitedstates

Thank you Bob for your input.As for the other guy all the TRex guys say the trex sa and the SE fly the same.I know that if everything is metal like the TRex SE there is less problems but I still think my MX flies just as good if not better than a TRex.I'll just bling my MX and fly circles around you.While your in a pissing contest with Bob, no offense Bob.
08-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
AirmanBob
Senior Heliman
Location: U.S.A.

No offense taken B & B.

I've never noticed head flex on my MX400.
What part actually flex's ?


AB
08-15-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Kramer
Senior Heliman
Location: LaPorte,In.

I found my MX 400 works fine.....after I put enough Trex parts on it

http://northern-indiana-modelers-association.synthasite.com/
09-08-2007 Over year old.
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
AirmanBob
Senior Heliman
Location: U.S.A.

I found that my MX400 Pro flys just fine
with all stock aluminum parts and an
UltraFly 25 amp ESC.

And now, it has an FMA Co-Pilot model CPD4
on it. (installed today).

It's not an auto-pilot and it won't fly
the heli for you. It just puts the heli
in a stable hover if you release the right
stick.

I got it just for peace of mind..and because
I'm not as quick as I used to be.

Bob
09-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Kramer
Senior Heliman
Location: LaPorte,In.

aluminum parts make a big differance,they don't break every time you bump them sending you home and to the LHS

http://northern-indiana-modelers-association.synthasite.com/
09-09-2007 Over year old.
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
SLC
Senior Heliman
Location: Johnson City, Tn

Mx V Se

I have a MX450 , been flying it since June. I put a JGF 500th last week in the MX and turned it from a sport flyer to a 3d machine.The only thing T-rex on this MX is a flybar and the lightest paddles.(that were under 6 bucks) Thats the thing and you correct me if I'm wrong but us Mx guys are either cheap or poor.. Lets face it, we would have a frigging T-rex if we weren't
Scott
P.S.
I would put my MX beside any T-REX of equal Value...
09-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hawkkw
Heliman
Location: Salem, Va

MX vs. SE

Hey SLC, I'll call you on that one. I've got about $400 in my stock
SE (heli, motor, and esc). Should be about the same money since you
bought that JGF and speed control. Let me know if you're in the Salem area. We'll video tape it for everyone to see.
09-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hawkkw
Heliman
Location: Salem, Va

Better yet Scott, I've got a tricked out Blade CP you might
want to square off with first, I know it's of a lesser value.
Pound for pound, it kicks the crap out of my 400 Pro.
09-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
SLC
Senior Heliman
Location: Johnson City, Tn

Mx 450 cost

Bought the MX for tower $249.00 , had a 50.00 off coupon if you bought 250.00 worth of goods. HeliMax had a 50.00 rebate coupon you could use at the retailer you bought the heli from. I got my MX for $150 bucks the way I see it.I looked everywhere for T-Rex v1 kit that was anywhere near what have in the MX before I bought the MX.
I just bought a Trex v2 . I didn't buy it because I was unhappy with my MX, bought because it was a good deal. I'll post my thoughts when I get the V2 in the air. http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t368888p1/.I will be putting the JGF500th in it.
09-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ed1955
Senior Heliman
Location: Pocono Mountains, PA USA

I've owned three HeliMax machines and still own two and...................

in my opinion the pros and cons are as follows:

Pros:
Most Trex parts work on the 400 and 450 XS (Huge Advantage)

Both the 400 and 450 are very stable machines provided you have the tail working properly.

Stock HeliMax parts are very available through several suppliers.

Some may not like this one but in my opinion, once you put an Align V2 tail, boom and head on the 450, it basically is Trex 450 SE V2. This is what I fly now.

Cons of the stock 400's and 450's:

Although they are both very stable machines when new, I find that they get loose pretty quick if you fly them often.

Let's face it, the tail rudder set up and control rod is the machines weakest link, basically trash.

The milk bottle canopy is kind of cheesy but you get what you pay for.

My bottom line opinion is that with the long V2 boom and tail set up and the Align Ultra head, there is little difference between the 450 XS set up like this and a Trex, again it's only my opinions. I've flown both the Trex and my hybrid Trex/HeliMax and they are very close in flying characteristics. Of course, now everyone will come back and say why didn't I just buy a Trex to start off with and the answer is simple. If you watch the classifieds, you can pick up a MX400 or 450XS for half the price of a Trex and even when you add those upgraded parts, it's still way under the cost of a new Trex and the beauty of buying experienced MX450's is that someone else has put it together and back up 400's have been found for $150 and I buy them just for crash parts. I have two extras right now.

Just my observations and the real bottom line is that I like all rc helis, just some more than others.

Respectfully,
Ed
09-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
SLC
Senior Heliman
Location: Johnson City, Tn

MX450 ver SE V2

It's raining on and off here today but I was able to get the maiden flight in on the used T-Rex SE450 v2 I bought, just hovering in my back yard.
Putting it together was easy just had to install my electronics,set the head up using Finless Bob's vid.All the electric stuff came from my poor MX-450 , except I bought a new digital tail servo.The setup is
3 HS-65's plastic gears
GY-401 s3153
cc35 w Just Go Fly 500th
Full size Futaba Fp-R127DF 7 channel FM reciver
Apogee 11.7v 20c lipos.

Some things that are differen't
There upper and lower frame on the V2 are wider.The JGF500th had lots of room in the V2,in the MX there was just enough room between the frame.
You can get 13pos and 13 neg pitch on the V2, I was able to get 11 on the MX.
I like the hex head screws Align uses, there less likly to strip and they stay on the tool better when your in those hard to reach places.

Some things that are better on the V2
The stock V2 has, carbon upper battery tray,tail mount servo,gyro mount under the boom, the frame is carbon fiber

The only thing better on the MX is the stock carbon fiber boom.

I was only able to hover today so no comment on which flys better
09-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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