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Align T-REX 600N 700N > One-Way Bearing Issue Count
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

There is a lot to controlling the durability of a one way. First you must choose the proper bearing for the application. Since the gear is an unsupported member, they really should be using a "clutch and bearing" style one-way. But most 50 size helis do not. Here is some of the design criteria from Torrington....

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When applying the clutch-only unit, separate bearings on each side of the clutch are required to position the shaft concentrically with the housing and to carry the radial loads during overrun.

Steel housings are preferred and must be used for applications involving high torque loads to prevent radial expansion of the clutch cups. Low strength housings (non-steel, sintered metals and some plastics) may be entirely satisfactory in lightly loaded applications. When using non-steel housings, thoroughly test designs.

SHAFT DESIGN
The clutch or clutch and bearing assembly operates directly on the shaft whose specifications of dimensions, hardness and surface finish are well within standard manufacturing limits. Either case hardening or through hardening grades of good bearing quality steel are satisfactory for raceways. Steels which are modified for free machining, such as those high in sulfur content and particularly those containing lead, are seldom satisfactory for raceways. For long fatigue life, the shaft raceway, must have a hardness equivalent to 58 HRC (ref, ASTM E-18), and ground to the recommended diameter shown in the tables of dimensions. It may be through hardened, or it may be case hardened, with an effective case depth of 0.030 inch (0.8 mm) (Effective case depth is defined as the distance from the surface inward to the equivalent of 50 HRC hardness level after grinding.) Taper within the length of the raceway should not exceed 0.0003 inch (0.008 mm), or one-half the diameter tolerance, whichever is smaller. The radial deviation from true circular form of the raceway should not exceed .0001 inch (0.0025 mm) for diameters up to and including 1 inch (25.4 mm). For raceways greater than 1.0 inch or 25mm the allowable radial deviation may be greater than .0001 inch (0.0025 mm) by a factor of raceway diameter (in inches) divided by 1.0 or a factor of raceway diameter (in mm) divided by 25.4. Surface finish on the raceway should not exceed 16 microinches a.a. (arithmetic average) or 0.4 m (on the Ra scale). Deviations will reduce the load capacity and fatigue life of the shaft.



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09-05-2007 Over year old.
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helibird
Key Veteran
Location: St. George, UT

My friend has an JR airskipper that he had to lube the one-way this weekend and it has radial bearings over and under the oneway so I guess there are some that use the "clutch and bearing" setup.
09-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

That is the better way to go.

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09-05-2007 Over year old.
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jadams
Veteran
Location: Upstate, NY. USA

Mine finally locked up yesterday. I cleaned it up and filled it with tri flow, let it sit and filled it up again, hope it works......

Is the "new" bearing from Align working? What is the fix?
09-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
SkateFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Cambs UK/Luton

Mine got replaced on warentttteeeee
If you need a new bearing call up skyline, they replaced mine with the newer one and it's had a weeks worth of hard flying and not a sign of any problems

Best regards

-Jvr
09-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JMF
Senior Heliman
Location: Clinton

what is skyline
09-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

My original oneway locked up today at just over 5 gallons.

Switching to a Torrington FC-12

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09-09-2007 Over year old.
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casper7
Senior Heliman
Location: UK southeast

https://www.skylinemodels.co.uk/acatalog/index.html

Skyline.
09-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
NoBull
Heliman
Location: Long Island, New York

Finished my sport few weeks ago. Bearing locked first flight, 2nd flight, 3rd flight. Removed it for a lube job and one of the pins fell out.
09-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JMF
Senior Heliman
Location: Clinton

I would say boca bearing is where it is at. I have over 35 flights on it. Lost count to be honest. I went with boca right away. Never used the stock one way. I lubed it very generously, put shaft in to pack grease in, pulled shaft, packed more grease (white lithium), put it back together and I have not had a single issue with it.
[url=http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=product&id=263&n=HF1216]
Though I am not hardcore, I can put some stress on the birdy.
09-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Both one ways on my sports locked up almost immediately. Removed one today and one of the pins fell out. I guess the consensus is to replace them with the Boca unit?? I assume this is the one I want:
http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.a...=11016&n=HF1216
??

Is there a one way removal tool for the 600N I should be getting too?

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
09-12-2007 Over year old.
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LukeRC
rrAdvertiser
Location: San Diego

Let's wait for Align's solution..... but if they bring up something similar to mine, i would be very pi$$ed off.....

Solves the problems and improves performances
09-12-2007 Over year old.
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SkateFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Cambs UK/Luton

Align released a replacement one way bearing which i got under warentee and it's slightly different to the original...
It seems to be holing up just fine

-Jvr
09-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
jadams
Veteran
Location: Upstate, NY. USA

We should be able to get the defective parts replaced through the dealer we bought from. Align should be covering these defects.
09-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JMF
Senior Heliman
Location: Clinton

I agree they should fix it. But I myself am not going to wait. I replaced it immediately. It has been fine. I will fly the boca bearing and get my original junk replaced with the new part. Why not have your cake and it to. Not that often that you can, ya know...
09-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Rockohaulic
Elite Veteran
Location: Valencia, CA, USA, 3rd Rock from the Sun

I looked into whether this would be covered under warranty, and ran into a brick wall.

Who is the POC at Align authorizing this warranty, and how do we get these parts replaced under warranty?

I got a helicopter for my girlfriend,
It was a good trade!
09-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
SkateFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Cambs UK/Luton

Well i called up the hobby shop i bought the heli from and they sent out the newer replacement and asked for me to mail the defective part back...
This makes me think that they send them back to Align...

You should call the people you bought the heli from

-Jvr
09-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
jadams
Veteran
Location: Upstate, NY. USA

Mine locked again after 2 tanks, is the "new" Align bearing any good? What part number is it?
09-25-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JMF
Senior Heliman
Location: Clinton

over 50 flights on my boca bearing from the start and still not one single problem... Tellin ya buy the damn bearing and end your headaches. Then call the place you bought your heli and have them switch the stock part with the new one for a spare. In the mean time go fly...
09-25-2007 Over year old.
 
 
jadams
Veteran
Location: Upstate, NY. USA

I called ASS-urance rc today and was told to go buy the new part hn6064 at a hobby shop. So I ordered the new and hopefully fixed one-way assembly. the boca is $18 and the whole align kit was $19. I wonder if I'll ever get this bird to fly......
09-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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