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e-MS Composit Hornet > Should I stay or should I go?
 
 
husafreak
Senior Heliman
Location: NorCal

I love my X3D, I've flown it for years, I just upgraded it to Spectrum 6100 and Logictech 2100 w/ Futaba digital on tail. But once it started failing in flight it hasn't stopped. But The last four times I thought I'd fixed it it has failed in flight again and crashed. I think I finally found the latest problem, the one way bearing in the main gear was moveing verticaly and was allowing the tail drive to unmesh. So do I buy more blades and shafts and try again? Or throw in the towel... Is there a time when you just have to let go? Is MS getting ready to pull the plug on Hornets anyway? I know noone can help me with this decision, if I ground her I'll let you know, I have a butload of parts! Eric
07-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

I feel your dilema - I love my H2 but it's a pain to keep it flying sometimes especially when it's going through a tail failure phase - I was flying my H2 2-3 weeks ago while my BCP was grounded and was having a mess of tail failures the last one spinning it off into a fence - I ungrounded my BCP and still haven't bothered to order parts for my H2 yet - I suppose if it were my only micro I'd keep it flyable but anymore I feel kinda spoiled by the simplicity of my BCP and don't like to work on my H2 as much
07-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
DarkHorse1
Senior Heliman
Location: Gloucester UK

Ahhh you guys are gona disappoint me , come on.

> But once it started failing in flight it hasn't stopped.
What's that, the s3154 over heating? If it is, it would be nice to identify why. Go back to the HS-50 and add 10% more gain, there isn't that much difference. Let me know if there is?

> the one way bearing in the main gear was moveing verticaly
Try lightly sealing in the bearing housing with a small amount of CA or a new main gear.

> Is MS getting ready to pull the plug on Hornets anyway?
Don't think so, first I've heard .

> haven't bothered to order parts for my H2 yet
Hey and you fly the tougher moves, I thought I heard you mention piro funnel and hurricaines . I wish you'd post some video one day before decommissioning your H2 (or the BCP for that matter) .

At the moment I crash more from old style radio glitches than in flight failures, though I'm not one too push to hard past fast acro.
07-12-2007 Over year old.
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Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Heh - It's not that I won't repair it and fly it again - I'm just not in the mood to deal with it right now is all - But really it seems the most I mess with it lately is when my BCP is down for a count and I "need to fly"
07-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
husafreak
Senior Heliman
Location: NorCal

Ahhh, DarkHorse, You are a wise man, I know it's just a string of bad luck, like I went thru a while back with my Raptor 50, and that was also a long string of different problems all related to a single crash. We need some kind of MRI scanner for our heli's! It's funny that finding the problem with the one way bearing kind of makes me want to try again, y'now, to see if that was it... I'd rather fight than switch so- I'm- going- to- try- again. There I said it. Too bad though, I was definitely going to send my 3 kits worth of remaining parts to you! eric
07-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
DarkHorse1
Senior Heliman
Location: Gloucester UK

Micro-Maniac, that's good to hear. phew!

> 3 kits worth of remaining parts to you!
husafreak, hey thanks man, LOL oh well, no you keep them and get that sucker flying .

Yes, the 'one way' shifting is a new one to me also. In case your not aware the stock X-3D has two stacked one way bearings which can often sit crooked and contribute to main gear wobble. The other wobble/vibe factor I recently found can be 2 main bearing centre ring slop on the shaft, to reduce, smear a CA film on the shaft areas and scrape off with a spare mast collar to take make a tighter bearing fit reducing the slop.

Frequent crashing would test anyone's patients with the setup time required to get that near perfect vibe free heli back in the air . Conical pinion slip, loose shaft collar when inverted, slipping grub screws and discovering broken servo gears in the next flight we can do without. Throwing money at brand new parts would save me some time but I'm stubborn for flying on a shoe string budget and will recycle all parts until they absolutely need replacement.

I still often fly a brushed motor BCP like machine (570mm on MS CFc's ) as a care free basher, fly's in wind without worries and would miss it for the easy low level FF blazing (brushed main motor is limited and faulty 4in1). At 292g the low disk loading and agility makes me want to try a 300g X-3D, may be after the next crash to damage the tail drive, it will be the plan...
07-13-2007 Over year old.
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husafreak
Senior Heliman
Location: NorCal

I'll weigh mine, I think it's as light as it could be. I paid full for my first X3D and got 2 more for 90 each from a LHS a year ago. But it's always the same parts that break so again I need blades and a shaft. I really like my Blade CP for just goofing around in the yard/park. But I ain't spending any money on it, it's pretty stock with DD tail. Today I flew my Raptor50, Trex450, and Lepton. The Trex600 sat on the bench. I love all my heli's for thier different flying qualities and you know a smooth running Hornet is an amazing thing! Eric
07-13-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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