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Robbe Cuatro - Millennium - Nova - Dyna-X > Robbe Rep support
 
 
Millibee
Heliman
Location: Kansas City Missouri

Can anyone tell me how many hoops one must jump through to get some support. What I hear from other pilots about the companys they represent is that they support them well in the form of parts and kits at cost. Is this too much to ask. I will not claim to be the very best pilot but I'm sure I'm very close and what reward would you expect based on your abilities? The rep's I have talked to also seem know what their company is doing before the general public.Is this the case with Robbe?Every thing I know about Robbe I read about it. I love my Millennium but I'm not happy with the way I'm treated or better yet the way I'm have been left alone. I'm out of touch. I have been approached by two diffierent companys and they do appreciate how I fly far more than Robbe. One post isn't going to change anything but I think that if Robbe is going to stay around they are going to have attack their competitors at the field with numbers and great pilots!
01-30-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Markus
Heliman
Location: Montreal

The Company Robbe is "around" for well over 40 years as I can remember.... Don't worry they will "stick around". It seems to me that you are looking for 'freebes'...... good luck! There are a lot of good RC heli pilots around and the big majority of them has to buy their material
with their hard earned money themselfs., so welcome to the club!
01-30-2002 Over year old.
 
 
whrlybrd
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock, AR

Millibee,

Are you implying that you are a Robbe Rep and are out in the cold without info? Are are you a competant flyer who flys Robbe and want more info directly? Looking to get sponsored? Did you contact the US Distributor? I have not seen a Robbe Rep personally around this part of the world. There are a lot of loyal Robbe fans and some frequent these boards. Good luck on your quest!
01-30-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Maxx
Key Veteran
Location: Shreveport Louisana

I LOVE the Futura SE...the System '88 control system was and is the best control system on any R/C helicopter! The Nova and the Milli are great as well. Best helis on the Planet! That being said...Robbe has VERY bad judgement when it comes to marketing! I mean they really, really suck! They stuck with Pica when they KNEW the helis and parts were not being distributed...Curtis Youngblood (the BEST in the World, then as now) was their Designer/Pilot and they STILL couldn't sell the damn helis due to bad distrubtion support! I owned a Gold Futura and couldn't get parts! You never saw an SE at a Fun Fly unless CY was there...it took them 1 1/2 years to do anything about it...then HUI got the Distrubtorship...and things were Rosie in the Robbe camp for a while! But the bottom line is that you have to advertise as much as your competition does or your name fades from the view! Robbe don't sponser Crap...HUI don't sponser CRAP! If you don't see MK at a FF then you don't see ROBBE! Mark is a wonderful guy and a great heli flyer but Christ, he's only 1 man! A guy in Dallas was flying Robbe...and did things that should be aginst the law with a Milli...he now flys for M/A...they have a better deal for reps! Robbe doesn't give a damn if people in the US buy their stuff...I wish they did, but they don't...If they did they would COMPETE with the Competition, not pull the two most popular US products; the Conquest and the SE (the SE is still in production in the Right hand Rotation I was told in an e-mail from Robbe on 1-30-02) to favor two helis that have MORE parts when EVERY other mfg. is making simpler, lighter birds! As for the Conquest: face it; the .50 size market is still just taking off and you have a great flying, easy to work on and competitivly priced heli in the market and you pull it due to low sales...duh! The Marketing Honchos at Robbe must have their heads in a warm, dark, place because the countries with the largest disposible incomes are buying other helis...not because Robbe Helicopters can't compete...but because Robbe Helicopters chooses NOT to compete! I will continue to fly Robbe Futura SE's because I like the way they fly and the ease of repair...and when I find them in a condition that repair is not feasible I will find a new Helicopter..one that's popular and lots of people have...one that I can gain and impart wisdom to many, many people in many, many lands (ain't the internet great) and mostly; one that I feel the company wants
to compete for my business and knows THEY will have the best product! Sorry for the rant...Chris
01-31-2002 Over year old.
 
 
whrlybrd
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock, AR

Chris,

You were one of the people that I was speaking of in my previous post. I too like the Robbe line. Why does HUI not take a more active role in the US market. It appears that Robbe is strong in the European market. Can we do anything to assist? ie:contact Robbe, etc. All the better flyers here own a Milli or other Robbe helo, and all say it is there favorite flyer but own other 60's as well because of better parts support and cost. As a new guy to the Robbe line I thank you for your help to me in the past and expect additional questions in the future.

Marlon
01-31-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Phil Lewis
Heliman
Location: Oxford,N.C.

Robbe reps.

I have pondered these questions also.
When was the last time you seen a HUI or Robbe advert.in
a American model mag.
When has there been a event like the old Schluter Cup.
There are in Model Heli world (a English Mag.)
As far as I know I'm the only one in North carolina flying Robbe Schluter.
If you want to sell helis put them in the hands of good pilots.
So they will been seen everywhere and you advertise.
Simple logic and marketing.
But someone does'nt know better or seem to care.
I think the latter!

Phil
01-31-2002 Over year old.
 
 
BladeRunner
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario Canada. Member of "some sort" s

Robbe?

I don't know anything about Robbe,but, by the posts here it sounds like they are related to the guy who sells Alpha4's.
They both have great products,but, the marketing people are on a permanent holiday. ----------BladeRunner.
01-31-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Steve Campbell
Elite Veteran
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

BladeRunner,

The guy who sells A4s makes them "on the side". He has a day job. He refuses to ramp up production because he knows that is the path to reduced QC. His product is extremely popular for a reason; it works flawlessly, and has no real peer. He sells every one he makes, and people are standing in line to buy them. Why should he waste money on "marketing"???

I bought my first one from Ron Lund many years ago. I had to wait seven months for my second one. It's worth it.

Not speaking of you particularly, but it seems that everyone who sneers at or complains about the availability of the A4 has never owned one. If they would simply quit crying and get on the wait list, then perhaps they would eventually understand.

Methinks that last sentence is bound to generate some flames; Nomex is on, the bunker is battened down...

As to Robbe; the short answer is that the Germans are intractable. I learned this hard way when dealing with SIG-Sauer (the German arms company) back when I was running our firearms unit. And those guys were actively seeking US markets. I agree with Maxx; Robbe doesn't really care about the US market. Too bad; they have a superior product.

<<...I will find a new Helicopter... one that's popular... one that I feel the company wants to compete for my business and knows THEY will have the best product...>>

Sounds like you need an X-Cell, Chris...

Steve
02-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
whrlybrd
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock, AR

OK so I am willing to show my ignorance, what is an A4?

Thanks.
02-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Steve Campbell
Elite Veteran
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

It is a battery maintenance device. To call it simply a charger would be like calling Hillary Douchebag Klinton a liberal- IOW, a gross understatement. Those that have A4s swear by them; others swear at them, due to the fact that they are very difficult to obtain.

Short version is that this device will do anything to a battery that needs doing. It's one major drawback is a limit of one amp output. This means that if you want to quick-charge a big battery, or several batteries at once (the A4 will process four batteries at a time) it's going to take a while. In today's atmosphere of hurry up, do it NOW, etc., the instant gratification types whose numbers seem to grow daily are not happy with an Alpha 4.

In fact, if you only have one or two models, and feel the need to charge your batteries at the field- either because the "big dogs" do it, or you fly more than 3-4 flights per model per session- then an A4 is probably not the thing for you. I have used mine in the field on the rare occasion when I needed a quick charge, and it worked just fine. But it doesn't do it as quickly as other chargers, and that annoys some people.

Other than to say I don't think it is such a great idea, I won't go into the ins and outs of quick-charging rx batteries. But a lot of folks demand this, and one of the less-capable one or two port chargers, such as the Sirius or Super Nova, are just the ticket for them. These are good products that work as advertised. They just don't have the incredible flexibility of the Alpha 4.

I always take at least two models to the field. Along with a transmitter, and flight box battery and glow igniter that need periodic charging, I personally want something which will handle all of that at once. I've been using the A4 for over five years, and I haven't seen anything yet that comes close to it's overall excellence and broad flexibility.

Yeah, it's expensive ($250). And you must get in line for one. But, with the exception of rapid quick-charging, it's the only (and last) battery "charger" you'll ever need. I do know some guys who have an A4 at home and use one of the "quickies" at the field. If I felt the need to do a lot of quick-charging, I would get a Sirius myself. But I'm kinder to my batteries...

Steve
02-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
whrlybrd
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock, AR

Thanks Steve, now where does one get in line if one so desires? Sounds like a great piece of equipment.
02-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
mainblades
Senior Heliman
Location: Roy, UT USA

Robbe field reps.. They do exist. You just need to take a look a at your resources. The Heli Pilot locator http://p-locate.rc-helipad.com/ the Members list here "Run Ryder", Call HUI, Rick's, World Class They all are Help and can answer Robbe questions. In addition join the Schluter list. Yes, your Helicopter is a Schluter. Schluter was bought by Robbe many years ago, but never dropped the Schluter name. The Schluter List can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Schluter-list/

The List of Reps I know of follow:

Erich Stolz Pasadena, CA He's often in Helichat "Erich"

Stewart Langenberg Grand Forks, ND He too is always in Helichat "Stewart" e-mail him at robberep@earthlink.net

Eric Schmidt Lincoln, NE e-mail heli__freak@hotmail.com

Gordon Mills Lafayette, LA

Craig Bourque Lafayette, LA always in Helichat "Kaborkian" e-mail kaborkian@yahoo.com

Gary Wright Melbourne, FL

Others who use to be or still amy be reps are:

Mark Kiner Perry, OK frequents Helichat under nicks Obi_Wan" or "Robbe_Wan" e-mail Robbe_Wan@hotmail.com

Josh Moen Minneapolis, MN frequents Helichat under 3DMoen

Futher more.. You own a Robbe/Schluter machine.. A Great Machine, a little expensive on parts, yes.. Only one small US importer, and a small handfull of shops that carry them. But honestly, a machine that basically is a World Class machine out of the box. My point.. Robbe/Schluter may not be everyone's top choice to own but they're a excellent machine and those who do have them are more than willing to help.

One more piece of food for thought. Own a BMW?? No me neither. Do they make the World's best Sports coupes and sedans? Probably not. But they're darn close. BMW dealers aren’t on every corner like Chevy, Ford, and Dodge, Toyota etc. But a BMW is still an automotive engineering marvel.

Greg Bartel
AMA 70898
02-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Steve Campbell
Elite Veteran
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

whrlybrd,

http://home.att.net/~LitcoSys/

Steve
02-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Inspector Fuzz
Veteran
Location: Austin, TX. Where fat chicks succeed.

Steve Cambell 2

Howdy!!!
Steve Cambell2, glad to see that you agree with me politically. Just wait 'till she runs for president. God help us....

Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours
02-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Steve Campbell
Elite Veteran
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

<<...God help us...>>

No kidding. The really scary thing is that she could actually be elected.

Steve
02-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
whrlybrd
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock, AR

Thanks Steve,

Politically you are all correct. It is scary who is capable of being elected. The state of AR is by and large happy they are gone but there are still some diehards here who get all giddy when they visit. How they can still claim them after everything including now living elsewhere amazes me. Don't most retired Presidents and families return to their home rather than finding another state to milk. OK I guess I should not have ranted so much here, excuse me guys...
02-03-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Steve Campbell
Elite Veteran
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

<<...you agree with me politically...>>

Yup. And I'll bet you would be surprised to know that I'm one of those armored, jack-booted thugs you mentioned in another thread...

Steve
02-03-2002 Over year old.
 
 
3DMoen
Senior Heliman
Location: nomansland

Robbe Reps.....

I am no longer a Robbe pilot, issues with HUI caused me to change. I have noticed a decrease in Robbe pilots over the last few months. I am told that HUI just doesn't care anymore about the helis, that they are more focused on the boats and cars. And the price of Robbe machines and parts for them is expensive! Many of my friends that I fly with around the US switched to a different company because they got sick of no Rep support from HUI at fun flys and other events. Just MTCW.
02-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
whrlybrd
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock, AR

What a shame to see lack of support for such a great product. Based on my limited experience these are some of the best engineered machines out there. As they are strong in the European market, is it just a problem with the US distributor? Can we the consumer do something about this? Advice?
02-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Ron Cosby
Senior Heliman
Location: Shreveport, Louisiana

Mainblades is right about having some great Robbe pilots out there. I know they read and post to the Shluter List, I don't know if they have all seen this thread or not. The Shluter list has been quiet the last couple of weeks, other than some heated discussion about JR servo failures. I think I'll post there today on this subject and see if the Robbe pilots have some ideas on what to do, they obviously know Paul Goldenberg and the Robbe Co better than most of us. I agree we ought to strongly voice our concerns or Robbe machines could go down the tubes for the US just as the did in the 90's. We might not succeed but we should try.
02-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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