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I'm new to the hobby. I purchased a Raptor 30 kit with most of the metal upgrades and a OS 50 motor to build a raptor 50. For the money that it all costed I was told I could have bought a Robbe SE and just learned on the 60 heli which would have been a lot smoother and easier to fly than a Raptor. I was told that raptors aren't designed to fly real smooth. What do you guys think. Btw I also got a Raptor 30 ARF, that will actually be my training heli.

My goal is to be a 3D flyer for fun. I got a realflight G2 simulator to cut down on my real crash experiences.

I'm an enthusiastic newbie that's here to stay!!!!!
09-28-2001 Over year old.
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winger
Senior Heliman
Location: Indiana

1st there will be incidents. I firmly believe the plastic 30 size are the way to go. Parts are cheaper. Especially rotor blades.

The raptor is 3D capable. Pratice your 3D maneuvers with it. You don't want to ball up a $500-$700 or more, 60 size machine. I've seen them go in. It's ugly.

Just my 2 cents!
Good Luck!
Winger
09-28-2001 Over year old.
 
 
z11355
rrMaster
Location: 10000 is enough time wasted.

Do your training on the plastic Rap30 and if you possibly can bring
back the other one w/ all the metal upgds and OS50, do so and
buy lots of fuel and practice.

Almost all of the metal upgrades have minimal value in the real world
and for what that setup cost, you can get a much better machine
overall. The pricing of the TT metal parts is obscene.

Robbe machines are known for two things. Excellent flying
characteristics and expensive parts. The minumum crash cost on an
SE is probably about $200 or so (the $55 servo tray and $35 crown
gear always break, then add the other parts and blades). That is
almost the cost of a Rap kit.
09-28-2001 Over year old.
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Steve Campbell
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Location: Baton Rouge, LA

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Couldn't have said it better myself. I didn't realize the TT "upgrades" were so over-priced. Sounds like TT is taking a page from someone else's book, Howard...

qmotion, take z11355's advice. Keep the basic Raptor kit and unload the 50 motor and all the eye candy (upgrades), turning that money into fuel, a GOOD expanded scale volt meter or onboard battery checker such as the GEM 2000, a decent starting system, etc. Don't be like a new guy I know; his Shuttle has so many "upgrades" that he probably has more into it than I do in my X-Cell 60; yet he is still struggling with one of those el cheapo starting wands designed to be used with a plank starting cup.

The basic 29BB Raptor is a good-flying helicopter that makes an excellent beginner's ship, right out of the box. Hopefully you bought the kit sans engine; put an OS 32 SX-H in there and know happiness.

Raptors aren't designed to "fly real smooth"? It's a plastic 30, for Pete's sake. No, it won't be as good as a Robbe Nova or Millie or Futura or X-Cell Pro, etc. But trust me; it will be quite some time before you personally could tell the difference. Not dissing you; simply reciting facts. And if you went the high-end Robbe route, you (actually, your wallet) would regret it the first time you dorked that bird. Z is right; a good crash on a metal 60, especially a Schluter, can and usually does exceed the cost of a new plastic 30 kit to repair.

Sounds to me like someone is trying to unload a Schluter (Robbe) on you, qmotion.

Steve
09-28-2001 Over year old.
 
 


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Thanx guys

I'm going to stick with the Raptor 30 ARF as my trainer. When I get proficient on that I'll play with the Raptor 50. When ready for a 60 machine I might consider a Robbe or X-Cell.
I bought the store. I have good equiptment and even a couple gallons of 15% fuel and I'm ready to start hovering.
09-28-2001 Over year old.
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freestyle
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA USA

For what it's worth, I just broke the $55 servo tray in my Futura for the second time in five years. The $35 crown gear is a bit of a pain though, I've been through a few of those.

What's the total cost of a Raptor with "all the metal upgrades?" Does it approach the cost of a Futura or a Fury?

Were I in your position, I'd concentrate on the simulator and the non-upgraded Raptor for a while. Start moving up when you feel confident enough to risk more expensive crashes.
10-01-2001 Over year old.
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total cost

The total cost without electronics was a little over $800. That included OS 50 engine, Hatori muffler, conversion kit, metal swash, heavy duty clutch, CNC tail servo mounts, CNC leveling arms, metal seesaw, CNC tail fin mounts, CNC front and rear pulleys, 330 cc tank, header tank, revolution whip antenna. That should just about complete the picture. I realized some stuff was more cosmetic than anything. Nothing wrong with having a good woman, it's a little plus when she looks good too.

I've decided on getting a Robbe Futura SE for a 60 with the OS .61 WC motor. Haven't decided on the blades yet.
10-02-2001 Over year old.
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