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Safety - RC Helis are not toys > We are in trouble now!
 
 
kangarooster
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando Fl-USA

I copied this from a bird forum this morning.

"Hi,
My friends freeflighted B&G macaw was hit today by a remote control helicopter. She tried to fly home and went down on the hillside across H-3 freeway in Kailua (we are on Oahu). We looked for her until it got too dark and we are searching again at first light tomorrow. My friend saw the general area where she went down. Please say prayers for her, I wasn't there when she was hit but from what was decribed to me it sounds bad."

There are over 8 million bird owners in the U.S.

If you think the FAA is bad,wait until you get a bunch of angry bird owners going to Washington.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

I had to read that a few times just to interpret what was going on. I hope the macaw had some life insurance.

- formerly known as "trex600crasher"-
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Vance
Veteran
Location: York ,PA

There's some information missing.
Where was the bird struck? Was it in a bird sanctuary ? or at the AMA flying field or in some guys back yard?
What was the reason the bird was out flying about?
I feel bad for the birds owner but stuff happens.
Vince D
06-05-2007 Over year old.
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RobRoy
Key Veteran
Location: Huntsville, Alabama

My dog was hit by a car, while he was out running around, should all drivers be in trouble now?

Ignorance is curable, stupidity is for life.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kangarooster
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando Fl-USA

Because of the time difference ,I have been unable to contact the owner.
I will try to provide more details as I get them.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Swoop
Veteran
Location: Newark, DE USA

Was the bird far from home, or did the helicopter stray from it's flyzone? Either way, its a shame to hear and I hope they are able to recover him/her alive.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kangarooster
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando Fl-USA

RobRoy,
I would assume your dog was in the street where he shouldn't be,while the bird was in the air where it was historicaly entitled to be.
I didn't intend to start an arguement,just pass on information about an incident that could turn into a PR nightmare.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

I dont think that should become a PR nightmare. Its not like an RC helicopter went out and masacred hundreds of birds INTENTIONALLY. Its a shame that the bird was hit but like it was already mentioned, sh!t happens.

Its been my experience that when a bird flies near me, they usually stay away and are more often than not much faster and much more maneuverable than my helicopter.

Was the pilot purposefully chasing or trying to hit the bird? In that case then the person shouldnt be able to fly helis anymore.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
twahl
New Heliman
Location: Manassas, VA

Being a bird owner, I have both sympathy and contempt for the bird owner. Free flight pet birds is a bad idea. It's not a question of "if" but "when" something bad will happen. I hate to see a B&G lose their life to the owner's "it'll never happen to me" attitude.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
mrhumble1
Heliman
Location: Chicago, IL - USA

Pet Birds

I have been a bird owner for many years. I have had my Amazon for over 10 years and I had several others before her.

Bird owners VERY RARELY let their birds fly around, and if they do it is in a huge enclosed habitat. I have never met a bird owner who let their bird fly outside free like that because eventually they will fly away and not return. Just 2 days ago I saw a quaker parrot near downtown Chicago and I am pretty sure it had gone feral. Exotic birds are not domesticated will very quickly revert back to natural behaviors if left to the wild. Besides, most bird owners know the dangers of letting their birds roam free and do not want their pet to fall victim to a cat or dog or some other disaster.

What I am getting at is this is nothing for us to worry about. Most bird owners will agree that the owner of this particular bird assumed all risk when they decided to let the bird fly free.

It's sad to hear when any pet dies but it is the owner's responsibility to keep a pet safe.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
z11355
rrMaster
Location: 10000 is enough time wasted.

exactly.

I've kept an African Grey and a Goffin's Cockatoo for 19 years.

It is the owner's responsibility! This moron let the bird totally
free flight? Jeez, I've had my 2 wizards try to bolt for the picture
window when they get spooked. I'm amazed that the B&G didn't explode
and 'tried to make it home'
06-05-2007 Over year old.
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Mr Joshua
Heliman
Location: Princeton, NJ USA

Liability or not, responsibility or not, it's still a shame it happened.

I would guess that pick-6 lotto winners are more common than this type of incident.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
schoenju
Senior Heliman
Location: Springfield, oregon USA

hmm, accidents happen I suppose. There isnt much information here for me to form any sort of opinion. I suppose that if the bird was in an AMA field then it's ok. But if he flew into the neighbors yard where that neighbor was flying his heli then that pilot should be held responsible for the cost of the bird. If my boxer ran out into a park and got hit by a model helicopter I would expect the pilot to pay for the damages. Provided the pilot was flying in a dog park or an area where people and dogs frequent. If my boxer ran out into a flying field...well than it's my loss.

Bottom line, not enough information on this incident.

Justin Schoenberg
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06-05-2007 Over year old.
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kangarooster
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando Fl-USA

I agree that it is the owners responsibility to keep thier birds safe and that free flight outdoors ia a BAD idea.
I have had two of my Macaws since high school (class of '57) so I have seen a lot of bird owners do dumb things.
Still there is no excuse for hitting the bird.
Anytime there is an incident involving a model
whether it is a bird,dog or child we run the risk of having our priveledge to fly being further restricted.
The careless act of one person effects us all.

For rent: one well used soapbox.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kiwidave1
Veteran
Location: Seattle, WA

Watch as I magically turn this little molehill into a massive mountian.

Poof (())

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whether it is a bird,dog or child we run the risk of having our priveledge to fly being further restricted.
The careless act of one person effects us all.

Cry me a river, it's still just a bird mate.



David

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
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GyroFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Florida ... 28° 50' N 81° 16' W

Whats a B&G macaw ? From the post I see it is not a gasser or nitro, but a real bird. Macaw I know, but B&G ?? Probably obvious when someone clues me in..

Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. !
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kiwidave1
Veteran
Location: Seattle, WA

Blue & Gold

http://animal-world.com/encyclo/bir...aws/blu_gld.php

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
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umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

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Provided the pilot was flying in a dog park or an area where people and dogs frequent.

it definitely wouldnt be a good idea to be flying a heli in a public park unless its a picooZ. On the same note, people shouldnt be letting this animals run free in a public park either. That applies to birds. Once you let them roam free then they are at the mercy of the dangers of the world whether at an AMA sanctioned field or your backyard.

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If my boxer ran out into a park and got hit by a model helicopter I would expect the pilot to pay for the damages.

thats an extremely emotional response and one of denial. YOU as the owner should have control over your dog just as the owner of that macaw should have maintained control over thier bird.

pru
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
RobRoy
Key Veteran
Location: Huntsville, Alabama

kangarooster,
I'm not trying to start an argument either, and yes, my dog was in the street, where he shouldn't have been. I am sad that he was hit, but do not hold anyone but myself responsible for the incident. As for the bird, what I was getting at, was if the bird was on private property, or in a park, then the heli pilot may sholder some of the blame. However looking at it in another aspect, you own a cat, your neighbors parot lands in your yard, and your cat has thanksgiving, should you pay for the bird? I agree, not enough info to pass any kind of judgment, but the way I see it, the bird owner is at just much fault, or more so in some cases as the heli pilot was. The only way I see the heli pilot being at full fault, is if the bird was hit on/over the bird owners private property. A sad deal none the less, but not sure I see this as a reason to further restrict our hobby. Not saying that some bleading heart liberals won't see it that way, but just my point of view. Feel free to disagree.


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Ignorance is curable, stupidity is for life.
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

just a curiosity, but how high do property rights extend over ones land?
06-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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