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Tools and Field Equipment > Torqmaster 180 or Dynatron
 
 
GRINCHMAN
Senior Heliman
Location: IL

I am tired of the maverikk starter not doing what I need. Which of these starters has more power to start a 90? Or, what starter is the best?
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Nitrohuffer
Key Veteran
Location: Bloomingburg,NY

A dynatron is the best, but I use a 180 on 14.4v with no problems. I take that back. I did try cranking through a hydrolock once and I melted the switch. An easy fix though.

Lungs transformed to take in water.
05-20-2007 Over year old.
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wheelman
Senior Heliman
Location: Kirkfield, (Coboconk), Ontario, Canada

I have a 180 that won't crank my .90 at all using two 8 cell NiMh packs. I now use an 18V drill instead.
05-20-2007 Over year old.
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nogodznomasterz
Senior Heliman
Location: Minnetonka MN

ni-mh cant push enough amps. i use a hobbico heavy duty 12v starter and i run it on 2 7-cell 1900mah packs. works great.
05-20-2007 Over year old.
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QuantumPSI
Elite Veteran
Location: Boston, MA

Dynatron, hands down. If you can't get high current nicds or nimhs, just pump alot of voltage through it. I've heard that two 3s gen II lipos in series have enough oomph to crank over a 90. I've yet to try it myself, but yeah, either high current or high voltage. The latter is easier to get to and won't drain your batteries as fast.

M

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Nitrohuffer
Key Veteran
Location: Bloomingburg,NY

Well that's strange because I've been using my 180 on two nimh 7.2v packs for over two years with no issues on my 90.

Lungs transformed to take in water.
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QuantumPSI
Elite Veteran
Location: Boston, MA

What engine Nitro?

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Nitrohuffer
Key Veteran
Location: Bloomingburg,NY

OMI modded cspec that used to be a cspec PS. At the field on I've started other guys ys's and 90sz's. The batteries are 3300 cells.

Lungs transformed to take in water.
05-20-2007 Over year old.
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QuantumPSI
Elite Veteran
Location: Boston, MA

must be the current then...

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
fromme2u
Veteran
Location: Jacksonville, FL

I posted this in another thread

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I just got done adapting a B&D 18V battery to my Hobbico TorqMaster180. Then I saw this thread. LOL. Anyways, I bought the Hobbico battery that adapts to the starter but it wasn't strong enough to turn my Hyper 50. The starter is rated for a 1.8cu." engine. I got fed up with it and decided to give this a try. The battery runs $40 and the charger is $25. Whats cool is I don't need to remove the battery from the starter or disconnect any wires. It slides right into the charger. The charger is a peak charger for 12-18V B&D slide batts. So it works with my 12V and my 18V drills. It flashes red when its charging, turns solid when it is done and will even tell you if the battery is bad. I tried it on my EVO50 and it turned it no problem. Here are some pics.




This setup has come to the aid of a couple of pilots at the field with the Dynatron and 90's. Don't get me wrong, Dynatron is a great starter. I just look for the cheapest route. What's nice is the Makita setup will run some dough. The B&D setup will run $65 maybe less if you search around for the battery.

Chad

Naval Aviation...College Degree to Break 'em...
High School Diploma to Fix 'em
05-20-2007 Over year old.
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ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

OMI modded cspec

My 180 starts a OMI modded C-spec with no problems. I'm running 2 6 cell 3300 packs.

Thanks
Anthony
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
RKing
Heliman
Location: Gainesville, VA - USA

My 180 starts my C-Spec fine with two 8.4 volt (7 cell) 1500mah Ni-Cads.

Ron

Helicopter Junkie since '71 - Hopeless Case.
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HELIVAGUY
Senior Heliman
Location: Monmouth County,NJ USA

heres mine only cost 40.00 bucks to make,
6 cell emoli made from a milwauki lithium ion pack.



Have a Heliva Day!
05-20-2007 Over year old.
 
 
AirWolfRC
rrProfessor
Location: 42½ N, 83½ W

Are we comparing cranks again ? - - Ok, who's got the biggest ?

Mine's a Torq Master 90 on 2 left over Zagi packs (8 cell CP1700).
Cranks the YS91 without blinking.

05-21-2007 Over year old.
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MJWS
Key Veteran
Location: Airdrie, AB - Canada

I've got a dynatron on 8s A123's. Cranks over my DA100 with no issues . 4s seems to do fine on any 90. 6s is good too. My dyna is just on a cord with Deans. Plug in any voltage I feel like.

Mike
05-21-2007 Over year old.
 
 
workerant
Senior Heliman
Location: MN - USA

AirWolf, cover your solder joints. It's indecent!

Oh ya. I was using this little guy, Sullivan starter with 2 8-cell 3600 NiMH battery packs. That was over powering it, but the thing turns anything (50s - 90s) over so fast, the clutch actually catches! Not recommended. My new Dynatron works perfect on those packs. No more catching the clutch from spinning too fast.



Raptor 90, Raptor 50
05-21-2007 Over year old.
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Nitrohuffer
Key Veteran
Location: Bloomingburg,NY

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Are we comparing cranks again ? -
No just trying to clarify information from people who know and people that don't have something wired up right and bash a product. Such as:
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I have a 180 that won't crank my .90 at all using two 8 cell NiMh packs. I now use an 18V drill instead.

Lungs transformed to take in water.
05-21-2007 Over year old.
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wheelman
Senior Heliman
Location: Kirkfield, (Coboconk), Ontario, Canada

Ok then how do YOU think it should be wired then Nitro? I have tried both series & parallel. The cells are 2400mAh I believe, and are in good condition. Is there a third method that I'm not aware of? Perhaps you could try ASKING a person what they have tried rather than just going straight to the sandbox. I'm not new to this hobby by any means (over 20 years experience) so experience is not the issue either. I have both a Torqmaster 90 and a 180. I can't say I see any difference in performance between the two. I've tried a full size 12V spiral cell car battery from my rock crawler. I've tried two 12V gell cells from my field boxes too. Nothing I've tried so far was able to crank my .90 with either of those starters. They can barely crank over my hyper .50 so I really don't understand how you guys are getting them to start a .90. I DID get them both used so there IS a possibility that they do not perform as new. They both appeared in perfect condition when I got them though. No visable wear anywhere, nothing that would indicate that they were abused.
All I was trying to do in my post was to make people aware of MY experience with the starter. Isn't THAT the general idea behind these forums??? I really can't believe all the flaming that goes on here. This is an OPEN PUBLIC forum, where people share information regarding experiences they are having or have had. If you don't have something constructive to contribute just move on. Sorry for the rant/hijack I just can't believe all the negativity.
05-21-2007 Over year old.
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Nitrohuffer
Key Veteran
Location: Bloomingburg,NY

Relax, no one's calling you a dummy. I'm not being negative, just honest. How would you feel if you owned hobbico, and someone said your product didn't perform as advertised? I had a long conversation with Jack Price of Duralite and how destructive forums can be to a company. Especially at the hands people that are quick to point the finger, instead of seeing what caused the problem in the first place. Advertising dollars make these forums run.
Now back to your post. Let's see a pic of your starter and wiring setup. If you bought it used it may have a million miles on it. In that case take the switch assembly apart and sand the contacts as they most likely have some oxidation interfering with flow. Also tighten the contact screws while you have it apart. Also make sure the carbon brushes are not worn down.

Lungs transformed to take in water.
05-21-2007 Over year old.
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wheelman
Senior Heliman
Location: Kirkfield, (Coboconk), Ontario, Canada

I'll gladly post you a pic later if you realy think that'll help. As far as the switch is concerned, I've never even looked at it honestly. It works perfectly (the switch that is) so I never suspected that it was dirty. I'll do as you recommend though just to further eliminate any potential problems. As for the brushes, I didn't even realize that they could be removed and replaced. I'll have a look to see if they have excessive wear. I'd be very happy if the 180 did the job I need it to do. I do take the drill with me when I fly just in case I need it for something else anyway, but I would prefer the 180 to just do what I need it to. The start shaft has a tendancy to loosen in the drill chuck as it's just one of those keyless ones, and the drill is spinning in reverse. As far as the product not doing as advertiused is concerned, I'm sorry, but that's MY experience with it. I can't help that. As I said, I'd be a happy camper if it did work for me on my engines, after all the reason I own it IS to start my engines. There must be a reason why whenever this question comes up (seems quite often) a ton of people always recommend to just get it over with and get a Dynatron. I personally have a very limited budget, so I tend to go for the "off brand" products as I can usually find something that does the job without needing to pay through the nose, hence I own the TorqMaster I'm prety sure that I'm not the only person who has reported a disappointing performance form the TorqMaster starters so I'm not introducing a new revolutionary discovery here designed to bring down the TorqMaster empire or something.
05-21-2007 Over year old.
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