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Aerobatic 3D Contest > Stock Raptor 50 "wannabe" piroflips
 
 
A. Bundy
Elite Veteran
Location: Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L11Gu4MrFVQ

Non hyper os 50/TT600/TT pipe.Low as I'm willing to go right now.Needs lots of polishing.
05-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

Those don't look like piroflips.

TM

Buying tools is half of the equation, knowing how to use them is the other. - T Moore
05-11-2007 Over year old.
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colsy
Elite Veteran
Location: Cambridge, UK

I must admit they dont look like it to me either.

One full piro to inverted, and another back to upright.

colin.

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05-11-2007 Over year old.
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A. Bundy
Elite Veteran
Location: Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

Tell me what to call them....It's flipping and the tail is spinning...And what is needed to do it right?
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
colsy
Elite Veteran
Location: Cambridge, UK

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Tell me what to call them....It's flipping and the tail is spinning

wannabe piro flips or nearly piro flips. or almost piro flips

col.

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Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

They are piro flips, half piro flips, slow piro flips. Regardless they are piro flips. Doesn't have to be 720 degrees/sec and 3 feet off the deck.

Quotes may have been changed for my own amusement
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

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One full piro to inverted, and another back to upright.

This was a good description. No one said they have to be on the deck.

TM

Buying tools is half of the equation, knowing how to use them is the other. - T Moore
05-12-2007 Over year old.
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A. Bundy
Elite Veteran
Location: Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

Title fixed.I like them any name you want to call them.
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

They are "Gentlemans piroflips"
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

I feel that interpretation is in order here, half piro to half a flip makes as much sense as one piro to half a flip, what does it matter?? He's pirouetting and flipping

Quotes may have been changed for my own amusement
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

Also looks cool if you alternate the piro-rotation on the second flip.

Quotes may have been changed for my own amusement
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
colsy
Elite Veteran
Location: Cambridge, UK

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They are piro flips,
Dont see how, that would be like saying, i can do a rolling circuit, but doing only one roll during 'the' circuit.

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half piro flips,
Nearly half, maybe.

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slow piro flips.
There is no true definition, a piro flip is one full revoloution per flip, doing it slowly still requires the same outcome.

Would be nice to see how everyone else interpretes it.

colin.

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05-12-2007 Over year old.
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Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

One full revolution per flip is what you see in that video. And a rolling circuit can be one, two, three, four or more rolls per circuit.

Quotes may have been changed for my own amusement
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

Agreed. Love the rolling stuff, just keep rolling and fly wherever you want with the odd half piro to swap ends. I think one can get way too tangled up in definitions
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
colsy
Elite Veteran
Location: Cambridge, UK

so if i do a circuit and only roll once, then that's classed as a rolling circuit.

FFS, wheres the 3dm entry forms again.

Anyhow we already agreed on 'wannabe' flips, therefore definition is no longer required.

col.

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05-12-2007 Over year old.
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Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

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so if i do a circuit and only roll once, then that's classed as a rolling circuit

Go try it... one complete roll in one circuit, one fluid manouver.

You'll be picking up bits of Raptor all over Cambridgeshire....again!

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05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

The implication of a rolling circuit is that the rolling is continuous. A single roll on each circuit is doable (just tried it on the sim) but it's not very exciting. Lets say you do 8 or so rolls in a rolling circuit and for each roll you are also blending in a full piro or whatever, is this still a rolling circuit. OR, lets say you are doing rolling 8s, then you blend in piros but then change the piro point to a hesitation. At what point does this become the Haymaker ?
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

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At what point does this become the Haymaker ?

In Colsys case which point does it become the rotivator!!

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05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

Rotivator - cool name for a manouver.

Damn I just trod on a snail outside, hate doing that
05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

Especially with no shoes and socks on!!

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05-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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