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MPA
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Location: Australia

Any of us who have lived here a while already know this.

If you have not lived here for long then know this now, if you see a fire or smoke dont waste a moment, get the hell out of wherever you are and move it and fast.

An Aus bushfire is a wall of 3000 C flame that travels up to 200 kmph.
Once you see flames if the wind changes or pics up your arse is toast.

YOU CANT REPLACE HUMAN LIFE.
YOU CAN REPLACE PROPERTY no matter how belioved it is.
The family pet or photos or jewelery are just not worth your life.

Never ever enter a house to collect your belongings if you see fire, just go.

We have already lost a few for this reason over the last week and I can only imagine either they dont realise what a bushfire is or what it means or just never expected the suburbs and housing estates would all to be in danger of bushfire.

This Saturday it will be 40 degrees C in Vic

A person who lights a fire or throws down a cigarette could come to serous personal harm if by the hand of the public if not arrested first.
Do us all a favour and just stop smoking for a day.






Take care.

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Doug
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Location: Naples Florida....

Wow!!! Nice pictures of a bad situation

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MPA
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Location: Australia

Doug

Bushfires are a part of living here (and drought) and I thought it best to round up some images to show just how major an Aus bushfire is.
The amount of land burnt is immense and the photos dont really give the full effect, last figure on I picked up last week 47,000 hectares of land was burnt in one day alone.
A lot of that in Aus capitol city ACT, in residential suburbs not bare bushland alone.
Ill see if I can get some other images.

Here is a site with some Pics of the NSW mountains (seperate to Vic pics above)

http://www.pbase.com/bio/snowy_mountains_fire_trip

If anyone is wondering why the fire trucks are so small they are Country Fire trucks (CFA) run by volunteers, only the City Metro (MFB) fire brigades are paid.

Dave

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Jim C
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Location: Indiana, PA

i know all about that stuff try being one that goes in to fight them.. i was a forest fire warden back in pennsylvania.. i had my own crew that when i got called i would call up , pack my stuff, and get to the fire.. totally horrifying when you see 200 ft flames and fir trees that are 150 feet high just explode like a bomb... but the strange thing is that i really miss doing that.. got to go to a few states and help out.. pay wasnt that great... ( 7 dollars an hour from the time you get the call till the time you get home) but i didnt care about the money just doing what you can to save lives and property was enough for me... be safe down there!!!

jim

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MPA
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Location: Australia

Jim

The Eucalypt trees here have a combustable oil in them naturally and just exploded or go up like they are covered in fuel.
The Eucalypt is where all out Koala's live and eat leaves all day so, they get stoned off the eucalypt and dont move too fast.
Following a bushfire there is always piles of chared Koala's about it's pretty gruesome.

The firefighters here have to be into the job.

The ones in the city Metropolitan are paid, the rest in the country fire brigades are all non paid volunteers.
(all the ones in full yellow gear)
It is expected of everyone in a average country town to go and fight fires for the last century here at least.
The Fire stations are 2 or 3 truck teams and paid for by fund raising and all the locals coughing up.
The basis of it is every land owner in the area of a country town is threatened by a common enemy being bushfire so everyone is expected to be on the front line when the going gets tough and help each other protect each others property.
Most farms are quite large by overseas comparison and there is not that many of us here per country town and so it is just the way it is and always has been.
There is enough people, buildings and commerce in our 6 or so metropolitan cities to have paid fire fighters but not in the country.
Any money it gets from the govt etc goes to aeriel fire fighting and the like, but not the individuals on the ground.
They will feed you and transport you but thats all.

Same for SES, State Emergency Services, volunteers.
They are the ones who peel the motorists out of their smashed cars and the like in country areas every weekend in between search and rescue missions in rugged terrain.

My personal view in this is all the trucks should have McDonalds advertising on them and anyone else who cares to cough up a dollar toward our fire services more than just a "token donation" but we have this breed of people that cant stand the thought of commercialising such things like it's some sacred society.

What you may be used to in the USA with commercial involvment and public services sends these people into catatonic fits.
"Ahhhhhh!!!! privatisation" they cry.

The SES and CFA have no hope of improving finances as long as one half of the public has this pointless posture.

The CFA and SES are are great direct marketing opportunity for a number of corporations seeking to sell to rural customers..
What better way to get everyone to go to Macca's than have a Fire Truck with golden arches on the front come and save your house.
Who gives a porkies if it has Ronald McDonald on the front fender, so long as the hoses work and the fire fighters are trained well and that takes $'s
They do give donations to now but its all token stuff.

The country fire services are barren of cash, the residents paid the price this year to the tune of 400 homes so far this week and all are up in arms about the lack of fire trucks in their street saving there house. as if they are paid fire services, and as if there is enough for each house to go around, and now blame thrown at the fire services so much by them the Prime minister is on radio defending the volunteers to the dense public.
The Govt minister pleading with the public "dont blame the fire services blame us the govt."
But when you ask all this lot to put their hands in theire pockets or take on commerce to boost fire services revenue they reel in shock.

That is the real tradgedy of all these fires.
The people who put posseisons before their own lives paid the price and so did those who ignored lawfull direction to evacuate hoses, 4 dead, 250 treated for burns.
Lives and property could be saved and they are not because those we have to protect them have little more than their bare hands and to add insult to it are then blamed for bushfires that are natural occurence in Australia.

Dave

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Jim C
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Location: Indiana, PA

wow, thats sad to hear about the fire service.. it was like that in the states but not as bad we could get grant money from the state but not very much it was based on the population of the town... but i know what your saying about the locals... we thought there was gonna be a freaking mutiny in the town a few miles away.. the fire company couldnt get any money from fundraisers and grants so they implimented a fire protection tax.... there were people going off the deep end about that but they wouldnt voluntarily help out but when made too holy crap... this isnt fair blah blah blah...... ok just remember that when the fire company rolls up to your house and just stand there....... cant do anyting cuz we have no hoses.... and the pump trucks dont work... but what can ya do??? there is always a group of people with diffrent views on things i guess...

jim

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