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Safety - RC Helis are not toys > Rules and Stuff.
 
 
Bad Karma
Veteran
Location: UK

Good idea this, there is a person I fly with that should look at it, he flys way too close to himself way too often, one day he is going to re-arrange his own face with one of these models.

Perhaps a "what to expect" picture may cure him.
04-03-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

Yes , maybe so, but thats his business and he has the right to find out for himself!
04-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

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Yes , maybe so, but thats his business and he has the right to find out for himself!

Therein lies the problem. Someone is flying in an unsafe manner and some idiots still think an individual has a right to continue doing it.



04-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

YOUR DAM RIGHT I DO! Therein lies the problem, some idiots think they have the right to control other people. Nothing at all was said about purposely endangering any lives! Not at all! Ace DUDE, read the post! The post I replied to was SOMEONE ELSES opinion of ANOTHER pilots flying style! And it said he flies way to close to himself, NOT OTHERS!
Do we really know how good this guy is? And do you really have the RIGHT?
Well if you think so then why dont you march on over and visit the Sazbos or Mr Krause!
04-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

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And it said he flies way to close to himself, NOT OTHERS!

So um, if he has no concern for himself do you really think he's going to have any concern for anyone else?

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And do we really have the right to intervene?

Is that some sort of tick question? Are you just going to stand-by and let some idiot put himself or others in danger and not do anything?

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Do we really know how good this guy is?

I don't really care how good he is. Mechanical/radio failures can and do happen to the best of pilots.



04-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

Who are the others in question? I think your imagination is running wild. And to answer your question, YES! and the last one, YES as well! Let me ask you something, So you think that the pros have no concern for themselves? LOL Your funny! And your calling them IDIOTS!LOLOLOL
04-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

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So you think that the pros have no concern for themselves?

I didn't say that, but on occasion some well known pilots have done some questionable things.



04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

Thats your opinion and you have every right to have it! And you did say that, just read it again! LOL
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Yeah, most folks simply don't get it and that's the fundamental problem.



04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

Oh ya...if you say so ...
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

CrzHk

Do you have any idea what it feels like to be in any kind of minority? Whether it be a racial minority, or a minority in a hobby? I'm Filipino-American... If someone has bad experiences with Filipinos, they'll dislike me, they'll distrust me, and they'll despise me. Same goes with RC helicopters. If someone has a bad experience with an irresponsible heli pilot, the next time they see a heli pilot flying, they'll freak! Hell, the pilot could be Jason Krause for all I care, but do you think the average person will know the difference between a world-class RC heli pilot versus a novice?

We HAVE TO keep each other in check! I don't care what you think or what you say, that's just the way it HAS TO BE. Otherwise, if a whole bunch of irresponsible heli pilots hit the streets, people are gonna be calling the cops on us every time an RC heli is seen anywhere... Can you imagine flying all alone in a schoolyard with no one around, and one jogger 200 meters away sees you buzzing around, so they call the cops on you? If we don't keep each other accountable and don't keep each other in check, this hobby is going to DIE. Quick.

FAA is already putting pressure into aerial photography rigs, and the only difference with those things and an 'average' RC heli is the fact that it has a camera attached to it. All in all, THOSE rigs are much LESS dangerous... You don't even want to know what kinda BS the FAA is starting to demand from aerial photography pilots... Let's just say that if the FAA gets their way, it'll cost THOUSANDS just to be able to fly legally. Even a TREX 450 WITH A SMALL DIGITAL CAMERA WILL FALL UNDER THIS RULING. So dude, do us all a favor and wake up... If you don't see the FAA getting involved in aerial photography as anything to worry over, you better wake up. Last thing we need is the FAA saying, "you know what, screw it... to fly ANY RADIO CONTROLLED HELICOPTER, YOU MUST ABIDE BY THESE RULES"...
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

No thats just nonsense! Where did I say anything about flying down the street? Where did I say anything about flying irresponsibly? Its individual opinion that is in question here. One mans irresponsible flight is another mans 3D Masters! And its my opinion that we all should respect the rights of others and trust whoever the pilot is to aquire the skills to fly however they feel like flying. If your on the side of the FAA, then join them, because your no better by trying to regulate how anyone flies.
A good example is from personal experience.In the beginning, I was not bothered at the local field if I kept my heli in a hover or mild forward flight, and out of the flight path of landing planes, but once I started high speed hurricanes and piro flips, You should have seen the reaction of all these old fart plankers. Its regulation like this that pisses me off, and thats why I fly where I fly!
Nobody did anything dangerious with a cameraship but maybe get to a high altitude to get the FAA to regulate aerial photography, so do you really think they need a good reason to ban rc helis?
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

TrexRookie, don't waste your time. Some folks just don't get it and never will.



04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

Ya whatever ace
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Like, um, yeah, um, ditto.



04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
MolokaiBoy
Key Veteran
Location: Kailua-Kona,Hawaii USA

Would We like the Government to get involved, and Dictate How and When We Fly?

I think the main concern that we should be focused on is......... pilots being Responsible and Safe will help maintain Our enjoyment in doing what We All love to do , and that is to fly, keeping the RC Aircrafts in the air so everyone can enjoy them.

I agree with the point that there are too many rules, regulations and restraints when it comes to Us RC'ers, but it has to be followed to maintain some Sanity and Order, if We would like to continue flying without the Goverment Humping Our rearends all the time.

HBF and others that feel the same as He does, has the right to voice there opinions, and so does everyone else that are not in agreement.
But, on the other hand I don't think the RC Community will stand idly by and watch people take unnecessary risks that Jeopardizes the Hobby/Sport We all Love.

Just my opinion, take it how you wish.................

Aloha

Les
You gonna fly that??
04-06-2007 Over year old.
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HHawk
Veteran
Location: Gardnerville Nv.

You see thats where this whole disagreement went off on a tangent. If people would just read the dam post and not put words into other peoples mouths. Yes some rules are important! And others simply discriminate against Helicopters. Its unfortunate in my case and for others as well who dont live near an AMA field that is heli friendly. Luckily in my cace here in Tahoe, there is more open space and ballparks than I no what to do with. A short walk through the woods yields many open meadows. So for me there is no need to fly in areas that endanger others. I do on the other hand reserve the right to decide for myself what is safe and what is not. Anybody with half a brain knows the danger of a heli. And Im an optimist as well. I dont go around doubting everyones skill level and If I feel someone is endangering me or anyone I care about, I can leave! Im not gona get all beligerant and start a fight over it! I too was once a beginner and got a little squirily a few times We live and learn. I only flew around cars a couple times with a TREX 450X and once with a Raptor 50. But NOT with my beloved TREX 600! You get the picture, I hope!
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

CrzHk

apparently it is YOU who are missing the point. I'm not even going to bother with your inability to comprehend how one man's folly can DESTROY a hobby for everyone... EVEN IF HE IS WILLING TO ABSORB WHATEVER COSTS HE CAN AFFORD...
04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

TrexRookie, you can't say I didn't warn you...he just doesn't get it....



04-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
headbrainface
Senior Heliman
Location: fort walton beach

any way you look at it. You don't need all the rules that are out there. I don't care who you are I'm sure you can see at least one rule (that's being generous) that isn't needed.

TREX ROOKIE: I agree with you fully. My girlfriend is Filipino and I know exactly what you're talking about. She'll disagree with something someone says and I step in out of the shadows and toss up the bullsh*t flag and suddenly the CEO is involved and the clown that pointed it out is fired. I love when that happens by the way. It gives me the illusion that I'm important. But i'm not. I'm a white male. Also I'm unique, just like everyone else. The only thing that separates me from others is the fact i know how to p*ss people off right to the edge and then I let off...like i've been doing for 3 pages of posts. People reacted a little harsher than I expected. LOL. Lesson learned....now to perfect it. btw. Pm me if you want to chat off the forums.

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04-07-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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