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Aerial Photography and Video > Icuiti M920 HMD report
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

I just bought a set of these M920's.

Going to test it out on the weekend and report here.

I haven't found a single review on it, so I jumped the gun and ordered one.

I am hopeful that they will be a good alternative the MicroOptical CV-1's except these output 640x480 which should be easier on the eye.

http://www.icuiti.net/m920.html



... But honey it was only $$$
03-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

I finally received them and was able to test them out the last couple of days.

Here's my initial report:

Icuiti M920 (VGA: 640 X 480 2D at 60Hz)

Product description

It comes bundled in a standard box with 2 layers (flat cardboard separating the two). There is a one-piece foam that is outlined with the headset/cable/battery cradle. On the bottom, there is a 5V AC/DC adapter, RCA (R/W/Y) bundled cable for a/v input, USB to power plug (you can power it from any USB source), standard computer VGA to digital a/v input cable, a pair of AA batteries (non-rechargeable),a nice nylon pouch to carry the cradle /equipment in, a manual and warranty card.

Upon initial inspection, the headset and cradle (attached to each other) look like it will last a long time. Well put together.

It weighs about 90 grams, so it's very light.

The headset has many adjustments that can accommodate any sized head or hat/cap. The contact points are just above your ears and they are foam padded and move in all directions.

The gimbal that holds the eyepiece can rotate 360* left, right and angled. There is a 2" flexible extension that helps when positioning the eyepiece to line up with your eye. The headset can flip either way so it looks and feels identical both on your left and right hand side.

The cradle is feather light. The AA's (if you use them) will be all the weight you will feel. It is approx. 2 x .5 x 3 inches. There is a power button (on/off), audio volume (up/down), brightness control (up/down) and a left/right hand side selection which flips the LCD screen. AUX input (digital from VGA or palmpilot source), A/V input (standard mini headphone jack), 5VDC jack and a headphone jack for audio.

The eyepiece is about 1.5" x 1" x .5". The lens is about 1" X .5" and inside it's about .5" away from the LCD. There is a focus knob where you can adjust the focus of the screen inside the eyepiece.

Testing it out :

Indoor test

VGA (laptop to digital AV cable).

As it displays 640/480, I had to adjust my 2nd screen settings in the display properties of my laptop.

Once done, I opened up IE and google. Browsed the net quite easily.

It takes a while to figure out exactly how to adjust the headset/eyepiece to your liking. At least it did for me. Since it's monocular, even staring at the screen, if 'appears' as if the screen is transparent because your other eye obviously sees everything in front of you.

This aspect is nice for me because I plan on using this as a tool to line up picture/shots while moving my heli from one place to another.

I walked around the house with this on and after a few mins, it felt comfortable. This will vary from one person to another, however because it is so light and can conform to any sized head, it just felt like wearing a headband of some sort.

LCD screen is very sharp and the display never flickered at all.

Having the eyepiece roughly 2-3 inches away and a bit below my left eye, it looks like your looking at a 20-22" LCD screen about 2 feet in from of you. This is an optical illusion but serves it's purpose nicely.

I walked around in a pitch black room and an extremely lit bright bathroom and the screen looked identical.

I believe this has to do with the internal position of the LCD screen in the eyepiece.

Looking into the eyepiece, you look through a small, flat plastic piece. On the left and right, there are little mirrors and directly in front of your viewing hole is the LCD screen which sits back inside the eyepiece about .5-1 inch. It looks like they did it this way to shield out light and they did a good job.

Indoor test

RCA Video cable

Same as above. Screen was crystal clear.

I used a Range video 900mhz downlink tx/rx inside my living room hooked up to a little cheap wireless camera.

Video quality was clear and zero flickering.


Outdoor test

RCA Video cable

Same as above. Screen was crystal clear.

I used a Range video 900mhz downlink tx/rx inside my living room hooked up to a little cheap wireless camera.

** BRIGHT SUNLIGHT **


I wore the M920's only and put the same setup (900mhz tx/rx/wireless cam) on the heli and tried it out.

No problems at all.

Screen was clear and crisp just like inside my living room.

The only time when it was difficult to see the lcd screen was when I was either facing the sun or when the sun was directly behind me and from a certain angle the sun was shining directly on the eyepiece.

Throughout everything, I could always see the picture.

All in all, I am happy with it and will be keeping it.

I ordered a second one for my wife to use (camera woman ) as she doesn't mind the looks of it.

She tried it and liked it. I think she'll probable go the standard route (5" LCD on a tripod with sun shade) and have these sitting on her head as well to alternate between the two. (she doesn't like being glued to the sun shade).

I apologize for not posting picture yet. I will be soon. Just bear with me. (no CF cards for the Nikon and the S2 is being serviced - defective optical sensor).

Any questions, just let me know and I will try and answer as clear as I can.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$
03-25-2007 Over year old.
 
 
ESWLFSE
Elite Veteran
Location: Bradenton, FL USA

How much and where?
03-25-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Price and where to buy:

It looks like the price went up.

I'm not sure as to why.

Icuiti has them for $999 USD (hasn't changed)

http://www.icuiti.net/m920.html

Tekgear 'had' them for $799 USD (which is where I bought mine) but now lists them at $999 USD as well.

http://www.tekgear.com/index.cfm?pageID=90&prodid=224

Before you plunk down the cash (unless you have deep pockets), give me a few days to post some pictures of the unit and examples while flying and using different video sources in both sun and cloudy (weather permitting).

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$
03-25-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Pictures

I'm surprised about the complete lack of interest on this forum.

The 'others' I have received a lot of questions and feedback.

Regardless, I need some more time outside when it's sunny.

While looking into a monocular display while flying, I find I have to close my other eye to focus on the eyepiece, however I'm getting better at not doing that. I think the comfort level will definitely vary from person to person.


Here are the pictures.

Sorry about the quality. 2mg phone camera.

There is a little plastic cap (you can pop it off to clean the lens) that holds the lens and a filter on. I popped that off to take a look inside. You can see in the pictures that there is a small 1/8" or so image that is projected onto a 45* mirror. That is what you see inside.







































... But honey it was only $$$
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
BigguyOz
Key Veteran
Location: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Wow! Kookboy, you have done a great job in showing just what this product is like. My only trepidation relates to the cost, which I probably couldn't justify at the moment.

but thanks for sharing the information!
03-26-2007 Over year old.
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kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Thanks for the comments.

To be honest, I got lucky on the first set I bought on ebay for 1/2 the cost of a new one.

The second set we bought was $200 less than what they advertise now.

Depending on what the woman thinks while using it, we'll see whether we keep the 2nd set.

I did some more fun work this afternoon (very sunny outside for a change).

I have one qualm (?) with this set.

While wearing a baseball cap, I can see the screen without any problems when it's very bright outside.

If I'm just wearing the headset/eyepiece, there are some angles where the screen appears to be very washed out.

I found the best results when the sun is directly behind me. If facing the sun (above me), then I can barely see the screen.

What I would love is to compare this set side-by-side with a pair of MicroOptical CV-1/3's. Unfortunately, I don't have a set to compare with.

If you're on a budget (which I am), I can't see justifying these for the price.

If the MicroOptical's were still on the market, then I would have probably gone with those as both seem to be in the same price point.

Hope this helps you guys.

Any q's, just ask.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
harrysvr
Heliman
Location: eu

"I'm surprised about the complete lack of interest on this forum"

Nice review, but the lack of interest is because of the price
Why don't you buy an I-vision GVD520(the same specs,i think) to eliminate the problem of the one eye focus you said?
And as I remember the price was 280$...
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Panomaniac
Senior Heliman
Location: Croatia - Adriatic coast

Just to ask: why is image in the viewer cropped? Did you zoom it or... ?
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Quote 
Why don't you buy an I-vision GVD520(the same specs,i think) to eliminate the problem of the one eye focus you said?
And as I remember the price was 280$...

I tried a number of bifocal glasses and the I-Vision's were by far the cheapest and worst one's I've tried. Too heavy, bad picture, blocks complete view, no transparency... most bifocals are like that. The only one's are the Icuiti DV920's (bifocal version of the M920's).

I'm getting used to the monocular view after wearing them on and off. It just takes a while for me to get used to. I've spoken with some other guys using monocular HMD's and most have the same 'learning curve'.

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Just to ask: why is image in the viewer cropped? Did you zoom it or... ?

Primary mon 1024x768
2nd mon (HMD) 640x480 w/ zoom

... But honey it was only $$$
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
harrysvr
Heliman
Location: eu

I was one step before buying them(I-vision GVD520)...
Now you`ve changed my mind thanks.
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

The I-Vision GVD520's are actually re-branded I-Vision 922's.

I didn't like them, however there are good reviews on them online, so I would recommend to try them if you can (not for heli AP usage).

http://www.cnet.com.au/mp3players/a...39272918,00.htm

They just do not work for heli AP where you need to see the heli.

The picture is good, however it is an immersive feeling so you are looking at the screens constantly which may be a good option for FPV.

Gary gave good reviews on Icuiti's DV920:

http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/c...duct/sku__II510

These are 1/2 the price of the M920's (monocular) and sit just below your eye sight/line. Similar to reading glasses.

AT $400, these seem to be the only bifocal glasses that you can use effectively framing shots via heli AP.

Basically, we all have different eyes and preferences which is why one person's rave on a these HMD's may or may not suit your comfort/needs.

Personally, I need to try them before I really 'know' whether they work for me. Unfortunately, this involves buying it and trying it out.

The M920's are pricey. I got lucky and bought 2 new sets almost for the price of one. They're not for everyone and I'm certain some people may not like them as you do have to adjust angle of the eyepiece.

Comes down to personal preference.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
harrysvr
Heliman
Location: eu

I dont believe it [url=http://www.it4tomorrow.de/shop/index.php?lang=ENG&list=KAT07]
1487euros=1984$
who`s gonna buy them?????????
When someone else sell them for 500$(375euros) used
[url=http://www.eyetap.org/wearable/wear-hard-07/2007819.html]
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Quote 
1487euros=1984$

Talk about overpriced

... But honey it was only $$$
03-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Quote 
I dont believe it
1487euros=1984$
who`s gonna buy them?????????

Here's another fellow who is using them for framing shots :

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4161106/tm.htm

Draganfly/RCtoys has them for $799 which is a better price.

http://www.rctoys.com/rc-toys-and-p...EO-VIEWERS.html

... But honey it was only $$$
04-02-2007 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

We did some testing at Cougar mountain this weekend and Maryna decided to stick with her trusty little 7" LCD. She doesn't like wearing the headset

... But honey it was only $$$
04-02-2007 Over year old.
 
 
FLAP
Key Veteran
Location: Michigan

excellent review. Thanks for putting that together for everyone. With Micro-optical getting out of this line of business, this product looks like a good alternative.
04-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
wjw
Senior Heliman
Location: Cape Coral, Florida usa

eyetops

With all those dollar signs flying around, I think I will stick with my cheap old crusty Eyetops. They frame a shot just fine, dropped em a 100 times and still work, no problems with sun washing out the pic. Not going to win any fashion show thats for sure, but hey...for the whopping 30 sec per flight that I am actually framing up the shots, they are GREAT!! Not going to spend thousands, nope wouldn't be prudent...not going to do it....nope...not gona do it
04-11-2007 Over year old.
 
 
wjw
Senior Heliman
Location: Cape Coral, Florida usa

Hi Bill,
Ya want a write off, have a kid. Then you won't have to worry about spending all your money. It will be like depositing a Black Hole into your bank acount.
04-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
wjw
Senior Heliman
Location: Cape Coral, Florida usa

WAY COOL!!!
Big time Congrats to you and the Mrs.
04-12-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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