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ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

Hey Guys,


Im a little frustrated here so I thought I would express my frustrations. I bought a almost complete Raptor 90SE from TONELEX. It was advertised as being a complete unit with a few exceptions. It also had pictures posted in the add of what was included. I didn't see a few parts so I asked a couple questions and was assured that they were all there, just not pictured. I got the package on Friday and to my suprise it was no where near a complete helicopter. This is my first 90 and I could tell that from just opening the box. I spent about 10 minutes looking at the manual and came up with the following parts missing. I'm sure there are more, but won't knwo until I begin to build. I have sent several pm and have no answers yet.

pv0158
pv0151
pv0183
pv0262
pv0286
pv0322
pv0407
pv0136
pv0414
pv0148
pv0200
pv0135
pv0050 x 2
pv0052
pv0137
pv0197

About $200 dollars worth of parts in total. I know I got a good deal on the helicopter, but was not expecting to receive this. I asked where the parts were and all I get is I will look at home and mail them if I have them. I specifically asked if the skids and clutch were included and was told yes. There not here! He posted pic in his ad which magically disapeared from everywhere(camera card, computer, and hosting site). In the pics there were parts that were not included as well, about 130 or so in upgrades. I would send this back for a refund, but I have already ordered the parts that he said were missing and about $300 in spares for this model. I also would have posted this in the ad, but it was closed. So I guess I am asking Tonelex what is he going to do to make this complete model that he sold me complete.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

Please post this in the GG List also so we can avoid this guy in the future -- unless of course he makes good on his 'oversights'. I'm guessing you'll know soon enough whether these omissions were intentional or accidental.

Sorry to hear this news.

op-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-t
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

I guess if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. A friend once said being frugal costs you 3 times as much.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

I will wait to see how he handles this before I go to the GG list.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
chuckhager
Key Veteran
Location: Clovis, CA

Sure hope it works out for you ant. Reading some of his previous posts, he sounds like a person that will come through.

And he even had a 100% positive rating on the Good Guy list. Even if it was only four times. Good luck ant.
02-04-2007 Over year old.
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ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

Am I wrong in assuming that everythign would be included except for mentioned parts?

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

No. From what you're written it sounds like parts promised were not sent.

op-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-thwõp-t
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

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No. From what you're written it sounds like parts promised were not sent.

Not only from what I've written, but what he promised in his ad.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
skypilot 01
Key Veteran
Location: Northumberland UK

Sorry to read that you have been ripped off.

http://www.geocities.com/mick.patterson/home-page.html
02-04-2007 Over year old.
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ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

Well it has yet to be determind if that has happened. I know if a buyer has a broblem with something I sold I don't wait 2 days and not answer, or fix the problem. If he would say what he is doing to fix it or even admit there is a prolem that would be a start.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
bmw
Senior Heliman
Location: Lake Zurich U.S.A.

Sorry to hear you got cut short on your 90.

Now I have a question, I've been on R.R. for a few years now and this is the first time that I've heard of the GG list (Good Guy list) Where is that to be found???

Runway? what runway??
02-04-2007 Over year old.
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JAGNZ
Elite Veteran
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Hey ant, you know how my experience went when I bought my 90 via RR - I hope yours surns out better than mine did. Mine is all sorted now but I had to buy all the missing parts. Hopefully yours will come out right in the end without costing you an arm and a leg. After my experience, I vowed to never again buy a complete chopper via RR. BUT, I did get a great deal on an engine/carb/pipe and that worked out well. I guess you win some and lose some on RR...

All the best mate.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
02-04-2007 Over year old.
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ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

Thanks for the kind words Jason. I have no problem buying the parts needed to complete this model, but the buyer should have taken the time to compair the manual to what he actually had. This is my first 90 machine and it took me about 10 minutes to find out that all this stuff was missing.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JuanRodriguez
Elite Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

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Now I have a question, I've been on R.R. for a few years now and this is the first time that I've heard of the GG list (Good Guy list) Where is that to be found???

Dude,

You got to be kidding, right ???

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...hlight=good+guy
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
valerko
Veteran
Location: ny,dutches county

How long exactly has this been going on?
You right about beeing mad,that everything was not as advertised,but
shouldn't you wait a little while and give a guy a chance to make it righ?
From what you're saying it's only been couple of days.Did he give you chance to sent it back for refund , or did you order missing parts before receiving heli?
Not trying to bust your chops,just think more info and time is needed,before publicly bashing a guy.
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

I sent pm to explain. He has never bought from here only vendors so you have to fogive him. This guy has great feedback and seems to deliver, but I don't see it on this deal.

Thanks
Anthony
02-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
ant_mb
Elite Veteran
Location: Delran NJ

I will give all the time needed. I sent a pm on the first day and he said he would check to see what he had. I sent a pm on the second day and he said he would check. I sent a 3rd pm and have not received a responce. Before I receivd the package he asked if I wanted to buy upgrades for the machine so I say yes. He tells me what he has and I said they were in the pic of included items. He get defenceful so I let off. This is after the pics disapear from EVERYWHERE. After the items arrive I tell him everything is not here that he siad was suppost to be here. He tells me that the clutch was for a 50 and the skids were nowhere to be found. I am not a very patient person, but his guys has had 2 days to at least say "let me work on it". If you sell me something then make sure it is what you advertise. This was adverised as complete machine(minus mentioned items) and arrived as a basket case.

I ordered all the parts he said it needed plus about 300 in extras. If I hadn't then this would be back at his door now.

Thanks
Anthony
02-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
LaserGecko
Senior Heliman
Location: Las Vegas, NV

If you paid via PayPal, file a complaint. If you wait around for him to make good, the next thing you know, it's past your 45 day time limit.

Best of luck to you.
02-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JAGNZ
Elite Veteran
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PayPal will not help, I have tried that before...

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
02-05-2007 Over year old.
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Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

PP is crap, I dont even screw with em...use your CC with PP and be protected, plus you dont have to worry about a 45 day restriction....

Supporting single moms scince 1995...............
02-05-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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