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aarinsingh
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Location: Thompson, MB

If only I needed a new Drill.

Cricket... You have a part number for that Adapter?
02-06-2007 Over year old.
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cricket
Senior Heliman
Location: scottsdale az

I don't but Kevin at finer edge may have it. Makita keeps them in stock for him in town. Maybe he can add one to your order. The last one was just over $3.00 with tax at Makita.

John
02-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
johnboy
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Location: South Lincolnshire nr Peterborough UK

here is my baby



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TOSH
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Location: PETERBOROUGH UK



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02-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
johnboy
Veteran
Location: South Lincolnshire nr Peterborough UK

LOL TOSHY very subtle, very you

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TOSH
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Location: PETERBOROUGH UK

Hehe.
lf a jobs worth doing etc.

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02-06-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

What is this adapter you're talking about for $3?



02-07-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Coastal Tool has the Makita BDF-451 for $259.00.

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/...9975+1170945699



02-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

Good find!

I want to die like my grandfather - peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like the rest in the car.
02-08-2007 Over year old.
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DSW
Senior Heliman
Location: Oviedo, Florida

Just received my NEW Makita BHP 451 Hammer Drill Kit off of on Ebay for $222.00.
02-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

Geez guys you're killing me. I could have saved $30 or $40 more if I would have waited.

I want to die like my grandfather - peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like the rest in the car.
02-08-2007 Over year old.
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JuanRodriguez
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Location: Rochester, New York

Another alternative....

Different model (??) drill but same battery system....

http://www.acetoolonline.com/Makita...ak-bdf452hw.htm
02-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

Read the data... that one only comes with 1.5AH batteries.

Be careful make sure the kit you are purchasing comes with 2 18v 3AH batteries.

You have the drill/driver and the hammer drill. You choose the type of drill you need than make sure you are getting the proper battery type.

I want to die like my grandfather - peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like the rest in the car.
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darkfa8
Key Veteran
Location: Eatontown, NJ, USA

has anyone purchased the battery adapter that will allow you to use a non-Makita charger?

I just spoke to an individual at FEM and he indicated that no such battery adapter is available. I also looked through Mikita's website and found no such part.

- Dan G. -
02-08-2007 Over year old.
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darkfa8
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Location: Eatontown, NJ, USA

from Kevin today:

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As I mentioned I originally considered including an electrical connector to tap the individual cells in the Makita battery for balancing. However, with the memory chip Makita installs in the battery, my lack of information in that regard and most importantly the liability in the advent a fire created by charging by a method I advocated, I decided it would not be wise to pursue that part of it. (Insurance companies always look to sue any parties they can hold even partly responsible for losses.)

On the flip side, Makita claims to get 2.5 times the cycles from their
lithium batteries by the combination CPU in their charger, a memory chip in the battery and carefully controlling the variables and cooling during the charge cycles. Since the chargers are going for around the price of a battery now, it seems cost effective to go with the Makita charger.

Add to that the attractiveness of the Makita LXT cordless tools which I think are the best on the market now, then a purchase of one of their very long list of cordless LXT tools is hard to resist. Who else offers a cordless concrete vibrator, grinder, portable band saw, pneumatic rotary hammer, fluorescent work light, blower, chain saw, auto-feed screw gun, rebar cutter or job site radio. I find it difficult to decide which tools I don't really need.

Anyway, all the best whatever you do.

Kevin J. Madsen
A Finer Edge Mfg.


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Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

I'd highly recommend using the Makita charger. It appears to be a balancing charger. They aren't too expensive eBay $45-$60.



02-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

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Geez guys you're killing me. I could have saved $30 or $40 more if I would have waited.

I wouldn't worry about it. There are more important things than rock bottom price sometimes. When spending this much on a tool I don't mind spending a few bucks extra to know I bought it from a Makita authorized dealer and knowing that they have a return policy. I don't mind gambling on the smaller items, but for the more expensive items I'd rather not take a chance of getting screwed.



02-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
WebSpinner
Heliman
Location: Avondale, AZ USA

Battery Tool Terminal vs charger terminal

With a flurry of calls and inquiries regarding a "charging" terminal for the Makita LXT 18V (Model BL1830) Lithium-ion batteries, I thought I should get on RunRyder and read the thread.

In hopes of clearing things up, the Makita Battery-Tool-Terminal I use in my adapter is the same as used in Makita LXT TOOLS and not the Makita LXT Charger. It facilitates a tool or in this case a starter motor to draw power from the battery. But it does not connect separately to the 5 individual cells for balancing during the charging process. A person could use a terminal to facilitate a connection between the LXT battery and X brand lithium charger. However, I could not recommend that charging method.

It is important to keep each of the 5 cells within the LXT battery "balanced" or at the same voltage/charge state. As the battery ages they will become imbalanced causing you to over-charge the less drained cells, shortening the life of the battery or causing a hazardous condition.

For Lithium-Polymer based batteries, overcharging is a guaranteed very energetic burning of the lithium cells and anything in too close proximity. This is one reason why advanced Lithium-Ion based cells which allow high current draw and fast charging where necessary before wide spread use of Lithium batteries were adopted for tools and now cars.

But I digress, the confusion about battery terminal connectors may stem from some fellow heli-enthusiasts using and or recommending the use of an additional Battery-Tool-terminal for charging the LXT battery by simply connecting charging leads to the backside of the Tool Terminal and sliding it into the LXT battery.

I did inquire several times about purchasing the Charging-Balancer-Terminal in hopes of integrating or supplying it with my adapter and thereby increase sales, especially to those who have lithium cell balancing chargers already or are considering such a purchase. However, Makita personnel have not responded favorably claiming no such part is available for purchase, that in fact they do not repair the chargers.

While I remain somewhat skeptical about that, realizing that my advocating a charging method other than Makita’s designated charger opens me up to liabilities in the advent of a fire convinces me to recommend only Makita LXT chargers.

Nevertheless, it seems likely that the combination of the Makita charger and battery with the CPU and memory chip, would likely save you money in the long term through 2 times the battery cycles or preventing you from ruining your battery or causing a fire.

Lastly, I can’t say enough positive about Lithium based cordless tools. In my opinion they are revolutionizing the cordless tool market and I think Makita is leading the pack. Lithium is lighter and holds higher voltage under load. It doesn’t significantly self drain and is as cheap or cheaper now than NiCad or NiMH. These features lead me to predict a phase out of inferior chemistries and to recommend you sell your antiquated technology tools while you still can.

What more reason or excuse do you need to get the Makita LXT tools? Then my adapter is only a small additional purchase  Besides, it’s a really slick setup, just too cool!

Kevin J. Madsen
A Finer Edge Mfg.
www.AFinerEdgeMfg.com read about Makita LXT tools at www.Makita.com
02-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

Kevin,

You have developed a really useful product and I for one am grateful to you for making it available at a reasonable price.

I agree with your decision on keeping the Makita "system" intact. With the cost of the charger so reasonable for what it does it only makes sense from a performance and business liability point of view to keep it together.

Talking to you, you mentioned you weren't out to make a killing here. Just doing something to promote the hobby. That my friend you have done! It's nice to have power/longevity and the lack of those bulky side strapped batteries.
Truly the Ultimate Starter.

Mike

I want to die like my grandfather - peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like the rest in the car.
02-09-2007 Over year old.
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ppridday
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Location: Canadian in Detroit Lakes MN / Guarapari Brazil

Anyone want to buy some good used Dewalt drills and chargers?


P.

"There's someone in my head, but it's not me..."
02-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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