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Safety - RC Helis are not toys > Flying at the park?

PaulJC
Elite Veteran
Location: Hertfordshire UK

In the UK the answer from a legal standpoint is NO.

In reality its much different

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01-05-2007 Over year old.

Sparky Paul
Senior Heliman
Location: Palmdale, cA

"Can you fly electric helicopters at the park?"
Depends on the park.
Locally, parks in Palmdale and Lancaster are posted..
"No model vehicles".

01-05-2007 Over year old.

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PaulJC
Elite Veteran
Location: Hertfordshire UK

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No model vehicles

Its an aircraft, i would class a vehicle as something with wheels

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01-06-2007 Over year old.

arceye
Veteran
Location: UK

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No model vehicles

Where I live local by-laws say no mechanically propelled vehicles, First I class a vehicle as something that carries a human, and second when I asked the local council how the grass is cut and how much hard work it must be for the guy pushing the (None Meachanicaly propelled) mower, all I got for an answer was "we own and have to maintain the ground and we say what the public can or cannot do". So to this I thought now the council own the land so why the hell should the public pay for the park land they cannot use for anything other than crappy football.

Andy

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01-06-2007 Over year old.

Sparky Paul
Senior Heliman
Location: Palmdale, cA

Some would differ with..."Its an aircraft, i would class a vehicle as something with wheels

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01-06-2007 Over year old.

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Two Left Thumbs
Veteran
Location: Houston, Texas - USA

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...seem to attract kids and dogs like magnets. And not smart ones either.

Isn't that the truth!

01-06-2007 Over year old.

YOUNGBLOOD
Senior Heliman
Location: Diamond Bar CA

Ok well here is the reason I asked the question. The other day I was at a local park flying my TREX 600 there was only one kid around 14 years and his dad so I thought, he was teaching him how to ride his bike.Well they were far from were I was going to fly my chopper and all went well I flew my heli for 4min and landed I was just shutting her down when out of the blue that kid came charging with his bike at my chopper like a fraight train

the motor was off but the blades were still spinning the kid took his bike and ran over my heli

no one was hurt but my helicopter was thrashed (BLADES,BOOM,MAINGEAR,BENT MAIN SHAFT AND SO ON) well it turns out the kid saddly has autisim and for some reason didnt like my helicopter. The guy that was teaching him was not his dad it was a special need helper guy. I feel bad that this has happend but it could have been much worse. This was a real eye opener for me.

SHEA

01-06-2007 Over year old.

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ahperson
Heliman
Location: Plymouth, Michigan

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well it turns out the kid saddly has autisim and for some reason didnt like my helicopter.

Not to sound cold but I wouldn't care whether the kid have autism or not, that does not give him a reason to thrash your property. Someone would have to come up with some cash. What if you were having a picnic and he didn't like it? The caregiver is responsible for the kid safety as well as others.

Some parks have ordinance that will/will not allow you to fly in the parks. I fly in the park and have been greeted with positive response from the park ground keepers and the police, but a forum member inform me that the park that I fly at has a ordinance against flying my Trex. I will still fly there until someone tales me otherwise like the police or workers. I always fly when no individuals are around that could get hurt. When I see anyone aproaching me I always land.

I'm sorry about your 600 but I would have got a name and phone # to try to recover some of my money. I know the kid has a disability but it is the caregiver/guardian responsibility to watch the kid from hurting himself or others. This may sound cold but this is how I feel.

Andre

You don't know what you don't know!

01-06-2007 Over year old.

YOUNGBLOOD
Senior Heliman
Location: Diamond Bar CA

Its all good the owners of the place where the kid stays said they would pay for the damages to the helicopter ($180.00)worth But they also said that I cant fly at that park. They say this but I never had a problem flying at any of my local parks never!!! I will take this as a lesson learned.

SHEA

01-06-2007 Over year old.

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ahperson
Heliman
Location: Plymouth, Michigan

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But they also said that I cant fly at that park.

Contact the park and get this info first hand. This may/may not be true! I would be a little nervous flying a 600 at the park though. I hope it all goes well.

Andre

You don't know what you don't know!

01-06-2007 Over year old.

dazzaster
Key Veteran
Location: right next door to hell

doesnt matter what they think about whether you should be flying there. the helicopter was not damaged in flight! what if it was an rc car? although it appears that your flight was not a safe one to make in the first place or it was not safe to land as the kid was able to compromise your flight path.

my dogs name is syndrome

01-06-2007 Over year old.

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helihoo
Heliman
Location: land of the long white cloud

dude you are a bit of a fool in my opinion

that trex600 you own......do YOU know how dangerous it is?? if that little kid had rode his bike into it when you were hovering and got seriously hurt who would have his arse in court?? not him but you buddy........I really don't believe his family needs to pay for your stupidity......it was a public park and he has just as much right to be there as your 430kmh plus blade has the only difference is if you went to a public park YOU accept full responsibility for being there....would you go to someones funeral whom you killed with your model?? what would have happened if you dumb thumbed it or had a lockout?? go to a club and pay the fees don't be such a tight arse

01-06-2007 Over year old.

helihoo
Heliman
Location: land of the long white cloud

and what if

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Not to sound cold but I wouldn't care whether the kid have autism or not

what if it was a blind person or even a 3 year old who ran into your blades??

01-06-2007 Over year old.

ahperson
Heliman
Location: Plymouth, Michigan

If you have kids it is your responsibility as a parent to control them. Yeah, I would be in trouble but the kid would still be just as dead. I have kids and I watch my kids and make them listen to me when danger is present. What the difference if a 3 year old ran out in the street at the park and got hit by a car. The driver should watch whats around him but the parent are legally responsible for that child wellbeing. I see people with no control over there kids and that is more dangerous to them then any heli you could fly.

I agree I would feel uncomfortable flying that bird in a public park, but for the ones who do that is there choice. BTW, I would feel bad hurting anyone any place even at a sanction field.

Andre

You don't know what you don't know!

01-06-2007 Over year old.

dazzaster
Key Veteran
Location: right next door to hell

tottaly wrong and irisposible action, kids are taught that its safe to play in the park and its not safe to run across the road. a pilot has a legal responsiblity in insuring his flight can be carried out safely without edangering any animal persons or and property no matter where you fly if you cannot carry out a safe flight you dont fly yes parents are responsible for there children but if a child is playing in a park (and parks are designed to be played in) and you deside to fly there you are responsable for your actions.
the helicopter was on the ground at the time of the accident with the blades running, now the kid delibratly ran into the helicopter which makes the kids gardian reponsable allthough morally he shouldnt of been flying there if there was a danger of this happening.

my dogs name is syndrome

01-06-2007 Over year old.

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ahperson
Heliman
Location: Plymouth, Michigan

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a pilot has a legal responsiblity in insuring his flight can be carried out safely without edangering any animal persons or and property no matter where you fly if you cannot carry out a safe flight you dont fly

I agree with what you are saying but my point is parent/guardian responsibility. What if a small child which was taught that it is okay to run at a park was between the heli and the kid with autism what would have happen? Lets change the heli to a ice cream truck that this kid was rushing to. My kids are older now but I could say stop when they were younger and they would. Kids don't realize when danger is present but adults do. When you are at the park people are playing different dangerous sports, would you let a 3 year old run in the middle of a football game between adults? I'm not saying the pilot is blameless but a parents love for their child should keep them away from potential dangers as much as possible.

I have flown my 450 at parks and local schools when no one was around and all of a sudden a dog, kid or adult will be in your face. I will ask them to stay behind me until I land or I will hover. So I agree with what you are saying, because once I put that bird in the air i'm responsible.

Andre

You don't know what you don't know!

01-06-2007 Over year old.

tim deakin
Veteran
Location: gloucestershire uk

You can fly on any public property unless it say's otherwise! But you must be safe,and in busy park's (this aplies for IC and electric) it's advisable to have a spotter,if it's to busy don't fly at all!! Comonsence really!

01-06-2007 Over year old.

PbThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: Katy, Tx USA

Problem is most parents don't understand how dangerous these are.

200 yards inside the fence that said no spectators, at county flying field.

Flipped switch for a Auto ( going to wrap it around behide me-done with flight ) all of the sudden someone was standing in the way.
Kinda behind me 10' and to the left a little,, a MAN a Lady and 10yr boy ,,I almost hit them and almost wrecked.

Got her landed , turned around and the lady said in a really hick draw "How high you reckon she'll go?"

Don't think the Adult have brains ,,, It's just not always the case

01-06-2007 Over year old.

w.pasman
Elite Veteran
Location: Netherlands

You should not be flying there with anything that can cause serious harm. If you make damage with it or even kill someone, YOU would be responsible. And that can happen easily in case of a lockout or if you loose control.

But, you said the heli was standing on the ground and he stomped on it? I would say that the child or the guy responsible for him has to pay the damage. You were not flying at that moment, and even if you were they would not have the right to damage your property.

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Its all good the owners of the place where the kid stays said they would pay for the damages to the helicopter ($180.00)worth

You mean that this issue has been resolved and you get paid for the damage? Good to hear! Just find a safer flying place next time.

01-06-2007 Over year old.

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YOUNGBLOOD
Senior Heliman
Location: Diamond Bar CA

I never fly at parks when any one is around. But this time I made that mistake but trust me when I say that kid was far away from where I was flying. I am not making them pay they said they felt they should pay.Trust me I feel bad but I don't think it was all pilot error the motor was off the blades where hardly spinning.I have had parents and there kids drive up to the park just to see me fly.I have a seven year old son and always make sure he stands behind me when I fly.This was a freak accident

SHEA

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