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Ducati-Rider
Senior Heliman
Location: Arroyo Grande, CA

HD V4 Shafts

So what do you think the odds are of Heli Direct coming
out with version 4 of the shafts using these ejector
rods ---- they could sub out to a machine shop and maybe
save their dignity and credibility?

I'm not a fan of trying to drill through a hardened steel
shaft with my dremel tool if a supplier can do it?

Maybe we can put a bug in the ear of HD, and get what we need
to make the baby Trex fly

Grounded by bent shafts

04-10-2007 Over year old.

gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

When I release my carbon-cored mainshafts, if you bend or break one, you will have destroyed your entire heli. Patience, Grasshopper!

Gerry Cullan,
Blade CP, HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan

04-10-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

does anyone know where i can get the head with the flybar on top instead of the blades. i am having the hardest time with the tx head. i may try a stock blade head.

04-10-2007 Over year old.

TONYVAL
Senior Heliman
Location: Keyport, NJ - USA

HDX TX head

Hi Zak
I see your frustration.

All I can say is that once I had the TX head flying well, it is very nice

But everytime I have the smallest mishap, the shaft is toast

As an example, I was changing my pitch curve (with the heli powered up), and accidentally changed the model setting on my transmitter

The heli went full throttle for a second (never even left the ground) but the torque alone tweaked the shaft.

I try not to put anybody down, and so I will not comment on HD's responsiveness to this and other problems.

I do love the way it flies when all is well, but if I could do it all over again, I would spend my money elsewhere

The building experience was good for my learning, as well as correcting some of the problems.

BUT, there will be a TREX in my near future, and I am looking forward to it!

Tony

04-10-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

i have setup many helis even the hornet 2 with little problems but this head is a bitch. i have heard the original flybar on top older head is way more stable and easier. also where do you get the little c clips on the swash levers without buying the whole lever? off to try plastic blade head and see what happens

04-10-2007 Over year old.

gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

If I were going to get an over-slung flybar head, I'd go go for the MicroHeli head. Wait, I did! I'm flying three of them on different airframes. It's easy to set up, provided predictable performance, and replacement parts are readily available through multiple outlets.

Within a month or so, I'm going to put some of my carbon-cored shafts out for beta testing. PM me so I can get three or four testers lined up.

Gerry Cullan,
Blade CP, HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan

04-11-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

anyone want to trade a v2 tx head for the old old you want to get rid of v1 flybar above blades head?????

04-11-2007 Over year old.

aristo1963
Senior Heliman
Location: goldsboro nc usa

so tony have you tried out your erod shaft yet?im flying mine on a park 400 4200 with a 10t pinion.headspeed is around 3000.

04-12-2007 Over year old.

ncpiperpilot
Heliman
Location: NC

Hey Zac...don't rush getting rid of the V2 head. I believe John (Aristo1963) is having good luck with the hardened ejector rods with the V2 head. Follow the thread, then get the rods and I bet you will be all set.

...Bill

04-12-2007 Over year old.

TONYVAL
Senior Heliman
Location: Keyport, NJ - USA

Ejector rods

Hey guys
I have flown around the garage for the past two nights, and the ejector rods work GREAT

It was a real pain drilling a straig and centered hole (using a drill press, but it could be because I have not done this before. By the third try, I was able to get it right, without breaking a bit. Basically, you have to nip it to get the hole started, and then give it light even pressure until you are ALMOST all the way through.

I also adjusted my throttle curve so its smoother in the beginning, and switched from the 10T to 9T pinion.

I am going to make a spare rod during the next couple of days, because I think I can do a better job on the flat spots for the set screws

So far, I am very happy with the outcome.

I'll keep you posted

Tony

04-12-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

i will keep following this thread and rcgroups thread and it sure would be nice to have good main shafts. the heli does fly pretty well for awhile so i will hang alittle longer

04-12-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

more tail vibrations and another bent shaft. anyone need an HDX300 with servos as a spare????

04-13-2007 Over year old.

lryansl
Senior Heliman
Location: Yuma, Arizona

What bent the main shaft or the tail? If its the tail what are you using for the shaft?

04-13-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

shaft from heli hobby for the hdx300 one of the screws in the tailbox came out did not see it and the shaft bent put another in and it is fine still messing with the tx head would love to get the old flybar on top head like my raptor 50 it works great

04-13-2007 Over year old.

TONYVAL
Senior Heliman
Location: Keyport, NJ - USA

SHAFT

Zac
I will send you a ejector rod shaft today

It's my first one (with a little vibe at the bottom), but give it a try

The only reason it vibrates is because I took the flats down a bit to much, but you might be able to center it better than I could.

Tony

04-13-2007 Over year old.

lryansl
Senior Heliman
Location: Yuma, Arizona

ZAC, Do you put loctite on the set screws?

04-13-2007 Over year old.

zac
Senior Heliman
Location: Los angeles CA

yes alittle locktite on set screws very little.

04-13-2007 Over year old.

TONYVAL
Senior Heliman
Location: Keyport, NJ - USA

EJECTOR RODS

Hey Zac

I send an ejector rod this morning. You should get it in a few days

Let me know how it works out.

Which tail are you running, the plastic or CNC set-up? I have the plastic set-up with the 40T gear on the main shaft, and it is working well.

I am ordering more ejector rods today, I may try the tail too.

Aristo, I think you had done these on the tail? I am pretty sure you said they were 2mm, but if you could let me know, that would be great

Tony

04-13-2007 Over year old.

aristo1963
Senior Heliman
Location: goldsboro nc usa

ive sent out 2 mm shafts for the tail and have gotten only positive reports.ncpiper even scruffed his tail a bit and it didnt bend.my personal hdx i built a new 3 mm tail box on a 3mm tail shaft and i was rubbing the blades against a 2x4 and 11,000 rpm didnt even phase itoh and as an aside tony i run my hdx with a 4200 park 400 10t pinion using the 40t tail drive headspeed on the tx is 2997.

04-13-2007 Over year old.

TONYVAL
Senior Heliman
Location: Keyport, NJ - USA

Tail Shaft

Hey Aristo1963
Sounds like a nice set-up!

You should probably start the 2X4 story with a "don't try this at home...". A heli that doubles as a table saw, cool!

Seriously, I have found this forum VERY helpful

Today I ordered a bunch of 3mm shafts, and one 2mm, just to try it out. I can not believe how fast those people at plastixs.com are, I placed the order at 3PM, and got a UPS delivery confirmation at 3:30 that it was shipping today!

Thanks again
Tony

04-13-2007 Over year old.

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