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I can't get Win2K to recognize the RC controller that comes with the sim. If I plug in anyone of my three different Microsoft controllers, it recognizes them instantly. Even if I manually choose the RealFlight controller W2k in the Gaming options menu under control panel, it still says controller not connected. I can't figure this one out for the life of me. I was wondering if anybody else has had this same problem.
09-17-2001 Over year old.
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Is this an Upgrade?

Hey, is this a G2 Upgrade disk? Meaning did you have any of the other previous versions of RF or RFD. If it is I had the same problem. What I had to do is uninstall everything and reload. Finally got it to work. Beats me why it just did. Did you do the online updates? If you have try a different version. G2 allows you to load differnet versions of the updates. For exaple the present version that is out causes start up and shut down errors for me. So I went to the 1 previous version where I had no trouble.

FWIW, g2 is one of the poorest written peices of software I have seen. It's very buggy, kinda like Win ME. Yet I still use it, I like it's graphics and when it works it works good enough to let me practice inverted manuvers.

Probably not much help, but it's possibly a problem. Good Luck

Please post the results of what fixes your problem.
09-18-2001 Over year old.
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No, it's not the upgrade to G2, I bought G2. Where do you find the updates? The only ones that I saw were for older editions and they were install type programs.
09-18-2001 Over year old.
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Ken B
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Location: Phoenix, AZ

Here

You get the updates by going to the "real flight control panel" At the bottom it says Online updates. Also make sure you register it before you update it.

Ken B
09-18-2001 Over year old.
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G2 and Win2K

Has anyone ever had G2 absolutely botch their Win2K installation ?? I just got G2 with the Tx interface, and installed it on my brand new AMD 1.4 Ghz computer. Upon restarting, I got a blue screen of death, as a result of a pagefault. Despite my best attempts to restore to original condition using safe mode, I always got the blue screen. Then, I tried performing a Win2K repair, but that too was unsuccessful. Eventually I had no choice but to do a parallel install of Win2K and reinstall ALL of my applications....

Has anyone had this problem ?
10-07-2001 Over year old.
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TotlKaos
Senior Heliman
Location: Vineland, NJ

RealFlight Interface and Win2k

I have had mixed problems with G2 on Win2k..
Most of the problems came from Service Pack 2 being installed..
Also the Via 4in1 Drivers really screw with the G2 Interface for some reason.. I make sure that I'm not over SP1 and Try to just install the AGP drivers for the Via Chipset.
I'm not sure about P4 Systems as I have yet to work on one yet to see what the problem might be..
Make sure that your bios is set to EPP or better ECP for it to work properly with the transmitter interface.. also double check and make sure your transmitter is transmitting in PPM and not PCM mode.. that will also cause the interface to not work properly... Good news is that I have upgraded to Windows XP and did not have any problems at all with the interface...
Hope this helps the guys with the problems!

Russ
10-07-2001 Over year old.
 
 
freestyle
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Location: Redmond WA USA

Re: G2 and Win2K

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Originally posted by polaris
Has anyone ever had G2 absolutely botch their Win2K installation ?? I just got G2 with the Tx interface, and installed it on my brand new AMD 1.4 Ghz computer. Upon restarting, I got a blue screen of death, as a result of a pagefault. Despite my best attempts to restore to original condition using safe mode, I always got the blue screen. Then, I tried performing a Win2K repair, but that too was unsuccessful. Eventually I had no choice but to do a parallel install of Win2K and reinstall ALL of my applications....

Has anyone had this problem ?


I've been there. Far as I can tell, reinstalling the OS is the only way to fix the problem. I have a hunch that you could also fix it if you back up the registry files before attempting to install G2, and copy the backups over the working files from a recover console. I haven't tried that but I think it might work.

I didn't need to reinstall any applications after reinstalling the OS. Then again, I only had a couple things installed in the first place.

When installing the transmitter interface driver, read the instructions very carefully, and follow them exactly. When I did that, it worked. Of course, generally speaking, I never do that.
10-07-2001 Over year old.
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I've been there. Far as I can tell, reinstalling the OS is the only way to fix the problem. I have a hunch that you could also fix it if you back up the registry files before attempting to install G2, and copy the backups over the working files from a recover console. I haven't tried that but I think it might work.

I didn't need to reinstall any applications after reinstalling the OS. Then again, I only had a couple things installed in the first place.

When installing the transmitter interface driver, read the instructions very carefully, and follow them exactly. When I did that, it worked. Of course, generally speaking, I never do that.


So you're saying that you reinstalled the OS, not G2, and it worked ?
10-07-2001 Over year old.
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penguin
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Location: Ipswich UK

Pagefaults are generally a memory problem. Try runnig checkdisk on the disk that your primary pagefile is on.
FOr those that have SP2 and are worried, download SP3 and try with that and give us some answers.
Gareth
10-07-2001 Over year old.
 
 


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Pagefaults are generally a memory problem. Try runnig checkdisk on the disk that your primary pagefile is on.
FOr those that have SP2 and are worried, download SP3 and try with that and give us some answers.
Gareth


How can I do that if I get a blue screen even when I boot into safe mode ? Would I have to install the Recovery Process ahead of time, and then use command line to run scandisk ?
10-07-2001 Over year old.
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penguin
Heliman
Location: Ipswich UK

Use the 2000 CD to boot into recovery mode (or arrange for a mate to make a bootable floppy if you cannot boot from CD). Enter the password when (/if, it IS meant to) it asks. Run
chkdsk /f c:
if c: is the drive you keep your pagefile on.
Gareth
10-07-2001 Over year old.
 
 
freestyle
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Location: Redmond WA USA

I'm pretty sure that the blue screen on startup (even with safe mode) is not due to a disk problem. It is the result of a problem with the installation of the G2 transmitter interface driver. This problem is known to Knife Edge and they have changed the driver installer to make it less likely, however it is still (as far as I know) crucial that you follow the driver installation process instructions carefully.

If you use the online update feature to get the latest version, you should find a file in the RealFlight director with instructions for installing the W2K driver. Follow it carefully.

And yes, OS reinstallation was necessary after I botched the driver install. After reinstalling the OS, I had to reinstall the interface driver.... I don't remember whether or not I had to reinstall G2 itself.
10-07-2001 Over year old.
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penguin
Heliman
Location: Ipswich UK

The virtual memory device driver (which uses the pagefile stored on disk) is one of the first to load, but thinking about it, it probably loads a different version in vga/recovery mode.
Gareth
10-07-2001 Over year old.
 
 
alfred
Senior Heliman
Location: Australia, New South Wales, Mid North Coast

For those people that run Win 2000
Make sure you install the Recovery Console.
This is a mini Operating system which is capable of virtually any repair needed.
But it runs purly in Command line. Help for the particular Operations can be found by simply typing "Help" at the command line.
How to install:
Place your Win 2000 CD in your PC and at a Dos prompt or using Start/Run type: (Your CD Drive Letter):\i386\winnt32.exe
A Window will come up and ask you if you want to install the Recovery Console.
Install it and at reboot where you get the option if you want to start in Save Mode their will now be another oprtion of using the Recovery Console.
READ THIS:
You will not be able to use it until you have changed the Administrator Password, this is not the Password that you were asked the 1st time when you installed the OS but is a Password that comes of the Disk when the OS gets installed.
You need to change it to a known one!!!!!
Recovery Console will ask you for it when you try to use it and will not let you do anything else until the right one is given.
With Recovery Console you can repair 90% of the problems.
There is also a help file in the "i386" Directory which is called: winnt.hlp
You can read it in your normal Windows.
A final word: You are now using an OS that is designed for work and not a media toy.
Virtually all problems are caused by: Badly written Aplications/errogunous hardware and most of all Users that do not read the "Read me files" that come with most Software that usually deal with any last minute issues.
If you use your PC as an importend tool for your work/private life then you need to do your homework before pressing the Install/Setup Button.
If you take a little bit care you will find by spending the extra 20 minutes you could save yourself hours of frustration.
Take my word for it, I know it out of expirience and learned the hard way (more then ones).
10-14-2001 Over year old.
 
 
freestyle
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA USA

You can also get a recovery console by booting from the CD. I tried using the console to delete all of G2's driver files, remove references from win.ini, and so on, but it didn't help.

Do you know of a way to edit the system registry from the recovery console? I have a hunch that the solution to the blue-screen problem would be to remove any references to the G2 interface driver, but I don't know if that's possible from the recovery console.
10-14-2001 Over year old.
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alfred
Senior Heliman
Location: Australia, New South Wales, Mid North Coast

Sorry no I don't but Win 2000 can be reinstalled over the top of itself without causing problems or loosing your files and Software.
I realize that this is the cheating way but I also believe that you probably can reset things to default during the install.
Obviously it is a drivers problem and if you have a multi boot PC you might want to sit down and 1 night (while watching a movie or checking your heli) just take a piece of paper and write down all the drivers.
Bypass a driver on each subsequent boot up using fail mode.
Eventually you SHOULD knock out the one that is causing the problems and end up in on the Save Mode Desktop where you can make the apropriate change.
10-14-2001 Over year old.
 
 
freestyle
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA USA

If I recall correctly (it's been a while) you can't even get into the process where you say yes/no to each driver, it BSOD's before you even get to the first prompt.
10-14-2001 Over year old.
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penguin
Heliman
Location: Ipswich UK

The BSOD should tell you which driver failed.
If you use last known good in the startup menu, it should take you back to the last full boot-up, i.e. the last time you logged in.
Gareth
10-14-2001 Over year old.
 
 
freestyle
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA USA

Last Known Good still gave me the BSOD.

Whatever was going wrong, it was happening very early in the bootup process, none of the boot menu options could get around it.
10-15-2001 Over year old.
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penguin
Heliman
Location: Ipswich UK

Could you get into recovery mode? If so do a chkdsk, it suonds like a crosslinked file overwrote part of the memory drivers.
Gareth
10-15-2001 Over year old.
 
 
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