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cy-fan
Heliman
Location: Waterloo, Ontario Canada

Thanks Flying Cat for measuring the current. My first question to the current you measured would be, what is the peak amps at maximum climb out? Do you notice any reduced RPM during climb out or loops and rolls, or does the 400DH keep on giving the power? One thing that I really like about this motor is its low weight. At 45 grams it has enough power to fly a helicopter larger than the Parkmite, yet has a weight that is less than some of the smaller motors intended for the Parkmite.

I was contemplating on getting the TP1320s, but you feel that there is a noticable differnce in performance when using the heavier batteries. What flight time do the 910mAh cells give? Or do you know how many mA's you are using for a given flight time?

The MS Composit 255 blades (E489) that I have fit in the blade grips. They are a little tight, but with a bit of sanding they free up nicely. I measured my blade grips at 5mm, which is pretty well the same as the blades. Are yours really 4mm??



Above are a couple of photos that show you how the plate is attached to the lower section of the frame. I drilled out all the holes to accepts 2mm bolts that I had on hand. It really changes the look of the helicopter. I also have the Hornet canopy to fit on it as well. The battery mounts just behind the motor were it should be. Oncce I get my motor I will tidy up all the connections and make it more presentable.

Richard.
08-17-2007 02:32 AM
 
 
Flying Cat
Heliman
Location: Cary, NC - USA

Hi cy-fan,
Thank you for posting pictures of your Parkmite. I like the bottom plate, it provides mmuch needed surface for components. I will upload a picture of my crowded setup in future post.

Unfortunately, I am not able to meassure peak AMPS during climb out because I use a heavy meter between battery & heli to meassure AMPS.

I agree with you about the 400DH motor, I not only like its low weight, but I also like its low profile and the fact that the cables do not come out at the end of the motor. I was using the Hacker B20-22S; it is longer and the cables come out at the bottom of the motor, which detracted the heli looks.

Here are some stats from using different TP batteries with 400DH motor:

TP 1350 mAh:
max RPM: 2750, flying time: 9 minutes, current put back into battery during charging: aprox. 900 mAh. Observations: I have flown over 11 minutes with this battery. Battery just warm at end of flight. No noticeable reduction in RPM during climbouts or manuvers.

TP 900 mAh:
max RPM: 2750, flying time: 6 minutes, current put back into battery during charging: aprox. 700 mAh. Observations: Heli feels lighter during flight, better & more graceful loops and rolls. Battery temp after flying is about 120F. No noticeable reduction in RPM during climbouts or manuvers.


With both batteries, CC-10 ESC temperature at end of flight is between 120 and 140 F. I have a CC-25 on my workbench, but based on other posts, observed performance, and temp measurements I have done right after flying, the CC-10 is capable of handling the 400DH motor in the Parkmite.

I double checked the blade holders apperture, you are right, they are almost 5mm. I will definetively try the MS Composite E489 blades!

Are you able to balance the heli with the battery mounted behind the motor?

Regards,
08-17-2007 04:16 PM
 
 
wsilvio
Heliman
Location: Boston, MA

Did you have to drill out the stock pinions to fit the 400DH, or did you use a different pinion that was already 3mm?
08-17-2007 09:43 PM
 
 
Flying Cat
Heliman
Location: Cary, NC - USA

The pinion hole is 2mm, and the 400DH shaft is 2.3mm. So, I carefully widen the pinion hole with a drill bit. Since the pinion material is fairly soft, it was quite easy to keep the wider pinion hole centered.

I then used permanent Locktite (red) to attach pinion to motor shaft. I have about 20 flights with this motor/pinion and they are working flawlessly.

Cheers,
08-18-2007 02:29 PM
 
 
Flying Cat
Heliman
Location: Cary, NC - USA

JGF 400DH motor update:

Although the motor has been working flawlessly, I noticed that the heli is not near as quiet as when I had the hacker B20-22S. Upon closer inspection I noticed that the 10T pinion in the 400DH motor shows wear in 1/2 of its teeth; i.e., my carefully enlarged pinion hole is not fully centered.

Since I like the idea of simply damaging the plastic pinion instead of the more expensive main gear if/when I crash, I have been hunting for a 45 grams motor with KV arround 4000, with a 2mm shaft. I have found a Hyperion motor (same brand my Lepton heli has) that meets above specs. I will be getting it in near future and post findings.

Cheers,
08-28-2007 07:13 PM
 
 
cy-fan
Heliman
Location: Waterloo, Ontario Canada

I finally got all my parts together and in the helicopter. The battery that I have in the heli now is the TP1320. The RPMs are much higher with this battery than my previous battery. The cyclic is nice and crisp. Everything stays nice and cool.

I still have some issues with keeping the tail locked in. I have not yet switched to the CF tail blades. But I have a suspicion that my servo is not fast enough.

Flying Cat, I was also wondering how true I drilled out the pinion. I used the lathe at work, but it is still tricky to get it all exactly lined up. Are you sure that it is not possible to find a 2.3mm pinion? All my research show that the JGF motor is the best for this heli. I'll have a look around to try and find a suitable pinion. A Hornet pinion will work for the Park mite.

-Richard
08-29-2007 03:18 AM
 
 
Flying Cat
Heliman
Location: Cary, NC - USA

Hi Richard,

There are several places that sell M0.4 pinions for 2.3mm shafts. Actually, I just ordered some from www.e-flightline.com (free shipping on pinions ). However these pinions are made of steel, so if I do not flip the motor cutoff switch fast enough in a crash, the pinion will be undamaged, but the main gear, which is harder to find and more expensive, would be damaged. This is why I like the idea of using the plastic pinions the Parkmite comes with.

I know what you mean about the TP1350 batteries. Although RPM readings are the same on the ground between the TP1350 and the TP900, in the air, the heli is more lively with the TP1350. You will not be disapointed with the TP1350. What main blades RPM readings do you have at 0 degrees?

My Parkmite now has the Hornet CF tail blades and main blades. There is a HUGE improvement with the MS Composit CF tail blades; the tail has a lot more authority now. Cyclic is crisper and climb outs are a lot faster now with the 25cm MS Composit main blades.

Best of luck on your Parkmite's maidden flight.

Cheers,
08-29-2007 04:40 PM
 
 
Spadkun
Heliman
Location: Japan

Hi All
Greetings from Japan!
I have just been given a Parkmite from a friend. Needless to say it is in a bit of a sorry state after he crashed it. I have ordered all the parts for it and am planning to get cracking on it this weekend. Just got the call from my LHS that the parts have come in, took 3 days!
I think this model has been discontinued in the US, but it is still available here. Does anyone have an English instruction manual PDF?
Would really help me out!
Thanks
SK
01-18-2008 06:00 AM
 
 
michelin
Senior Heliman
Location: Austria

I don't think you really need one. I build mine with the japanese manual without any probs.

Jut get a fuselage for my parkmite. it looks really nice and i hope to buils it soon

01-18-2008 06:31 PM
 
 
michelin
Senior Heliman
Location: Austria

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Does anyone have an English instruction manual PDF?


http://www.macgregor.co.uk/manuals/Parkmite.pdf
01-19-2008 08:03 AM
 
 
Spadkun
Heliman
Location: Japan

Thank you
Thank you
Thank you!
How is your Parkmite flying? Any tips you can give me would be much appreciated, still a bit new to helis.
Just getting to the setup now. It came with a Trim corp. BL motor.
I spun it up without the blades and the head speed seemed very low.
I have no idea on the KV of the motor, guess it must be low. I just put in a "400 DH" motor tonight.
01-19-2008 04:11 PM
 
 
Spadkun
Heliman
Location: Japan

Check this one out:-
http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~kenninkai-hp/parkmite.html
01-20-2008 03:19 PM
 
 
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