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KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

I need to speak with Coloradoheli3D ASAP. I've PM'ed and emailed but no response. Maybe due to the holiday he's out of town. I've got nothing bad to say yet. Hope we can work this out.

11-25-2006 04:54 PM

hockeysew
Senior Heliman
Location: Co-USA

He is still out and about-Sometimes he is just a little slow on the reply-I am sure he will treat you right.
I've nothing but good to say for him

911- Government Sponsored Dial-A-Prayer....1911- Colt Sponsored Answer-Your-Prayers....

11-25-2006 05:12 PM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

I feel better already.

11-25-2006 05:31 PM

valerko
Veteran
Location: ny,dutches county

No need to worry,I've spent quite a few $$ with him and he always did good.

11-25-2006 08:34 PM

sandals4me2
Heliman
Location: Anthem, Arizona

Dont worry at all top notch Guy.

Kevin

No these are not my sandals, Im just keeping them warm. 08/23/60-05/26/06 RIP Bro.

11-25-2006 08:39 PM

HOMEPAGE

Jim Patterson
Senior Heliman
Location: AREA 51 Roswell

I'll chime in as well, spent lots of money with him. I'm sure you'll get your stuff.

Highly addicted to carbon fiber.....

11-26-2006 12:05 AM

cJ
Senior Heliman
Location: Lakewood CA

dont worry

top notch guy. I would imagine he is out of town, or drag racing...

Im sure he is out of town....

super guy to deal with..

Cj

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11-26-2006 12:10 AM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

I've completed several deals in the past without any problem but I need resolution on one I've got going now.

11-26-2006 12:28 AM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

Well it seems that this GG may have gone bad. I'll give it until 3pm EST to see if he contacts me. I know he's been on the forum but he can't answer my PM.

11-26-2006 04:57 AM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

You know,
I think I'm wrong here.
I'm expecting to much.
I'm expecting to get what I paid for.
I'm expecting to get what I was promised.
I'm expecting a guy to man up and just do the right thing, but it looks like I've been had and by such a well liked and great guy

I purchased an Avant w/programmable head which was crashed but Coloradoheli3D (Keith Wenzen) told me he had all the parts to bring it back to 100%. So after asking a thousands questions, and asking them again he assured me that the heli would be 100%.

He informed me he was a Avant team pilot and that he knew what he was talking about. I found him many time on the GG list and decided to pull the trigger. He shipped the heli and parts in two boxes.

When I received the tail section I noticed right away that the tail rod wasn't correct and I questioned why there was a wire rudder control and not a 4mm carbon rod like I had on my other Avant, and that where the BS begins.

When I received the rest of the airframe I noticed all the main & clutch bearings where very rough and notchy, and all the parts where not included to complete the airframe as promise . We worked out a deal where he would refund me $89.85 which I haven't received.

I started the re-assembly and noticed the replacement side frames didn't match. That's to say the left side frame was different than the right side frame (see pics). So I'm here with a mismatched unit that is in complete.

Now payment was good. All those $100 dollar bills matched. They all worked as promised

I've heard nothing since talk of my refund, but he's been on the forum. Now I want what I paid for a 100% Avant w/programmable head airframe. I'm trying to be civil and work this out but rest assured I will not let you take advantage of the fact that 2000 miles seperates us.

Tom Richardson

11-26-2006 10:29 PM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

TTT

11-27-2006 03:15 AM

cJ
Senior Heliman
Location: Lakewood CA

frames

Hey TTT... koptor kat.. funny how you can blame a guy for mismatch of frames when he has no control over frames.. How about you take it up with CX(carbon xtreme). keep the blame real..

CJ

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11-27-2006 03:50 AM

cJ
Senior Heliman
Location: Lakewood CA

BtW..

does the mismatch frames hender mechanical alignment. This is more inportant. If it does I would get a hold of Augie and take it up with him instead of dragging keith through the dirt on something he has no control over. Augie Stands behind his $hit. What keith owes you is another thing.... if thats the case I understand but frames... is some thing else.. So again.. Stay in line.. No bashing if at all possible.

We are all in this for the Fun of it all .... so dont tarnish it..
CJ

ps... FTS = "Fun Through Synergy"

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11-27-2006 03:57 AM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

Ok, first lets get something out of the way. Keith is your friend, no problem. Keith is a great guy, no problem.

Now since your under the impression that I know nothing about this hobby. I'll inform you that I already have one of these heli's in my fleet. The frames are not matched up which in turn will affect the mechanical alignment. If it didn't I would use it.

I didn't go into or purchase parts from Augusto I got them from Keith so my business is with keith, but in your mind I should go to Augusto? I didn't give $800 to Augusto. I give it to Keith and he assure me that what I would have in the end was a Avant FX ready to go.

Factor in the missing parts, mismatched frame and lack of communication and you have a blast feast. Personally I don't see where any of this is your business with all due respect.

11-27-2006 04:22 AM

50feet
Key Veteran
Location: Wilmington, Delaware

I would not waste my time with these guys Tom....

#&^$ this guys rep. The fact that this guy has not spoken up yet shows that he knew what he was doing. The fact is your only as good as you last transaction. If some one was accusing me of ripping them off I would be defending my self.

To many of these guys are trying to get over on people with there reps. And it never fails that there will be a bunch of his Butt buddies trying to gang up on the person who got ripped off. I bought a heli from a GG that said it was new in box. I got a crashed POS part donor and when I posted it I got the same thing.

To trust no one is to trust everyone equally

11-27-2006 04:59 AM

junyang
Heliman
Location: Singapore

Hope you'll get what you deserve back bro.

11-27-2006 05:21 AM

cJ
Senior Heliman
Location: Lakewood CA

Kopterkat

yes he is a buddy. I just thought it was a manufacturing defect. So Im out of this and I hope you accept my apologies. Good luck and happy flying.
CJ

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11-27-2006 12:45 PM

KopterKat
Senior Heliman
Location: Cherry Hill, New Jersey

50feet

Now let me tell you where I stand. I'm going to order whatever it takes to make this heli 100%, because thats who I am. I will be reimbursed by Keith Wenzel either by paypal refund, USPS MO or I'll have my own form of pay back.

This is not a threat. I promise I will post his NAME,DOB,SSN,HOME ,WORK ADDRESS and BANK INFO. Why? Because I have it ,and the fact that we're 2000 miles apart is why he's ignoring me.
This will get his attention.

I'm not going to be cheated by anyone. I'm a more than generous person, but I can't tolerate being taken advantage of. I know everybody is going to say "Hey man that's not cool." to post anybodies personal information on the net. For those folks I say " Mind your business and stay out of the way" I don't want you to get hit by any shrapnel.

Keith, the clock is ticking.

11-27-2006 03:42 PM

kirk
Veteran
Location: Thornton, Colorado

Keith

I know Keith personally and he is a GOOD GUY!!! I understand your frustration and knowing Keith the way I do I am sure he will make it right with ya.

Kirk

11-27-2006 04:02 PM

TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

Kopter,

You posted this on Saturday November 25... Thanksgiving was on the 23rd and the vacation weekend has just ended. Give the guy some time. He's on the GG list and you've been trying to get a hold of him when he may not have even been home! Last week I worked from Monday thru Wednesday and half of my customers took the ENTIRE WEEK off to spend it with their families. For all we know, he may have been in Mexico for the past week. I understand you're upset and you want this resolved, but you can't be goin off the deep end like that, especially when it's a holiday and that there are so many people willing to vouch for the guy. Just chill out for a sec and give it some time.

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I will be reimbursed by Keith Wenzel either by paypal refund, USPS MO or I'll have my own form of pay back.

Hate to break it to ya dude, but that sounds like a threat to me. Chill.

11-27-2006 05:15 PM

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