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e-Mikado Logo 400 500 600 > Getting a Logo:) - Got one!!!
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

Hello all.
I am getting a Logo 10 in the next few days *very excited*.
Its a logo 10 carbon 3D with the following gear:
Jazz 80-6-18
Plattenberg orbit 20-10
TP 4s4p 8000mah.
CSM 560 micro
s9254 t/s
(i am skinned)
I'm yet to get servos and rx. The heli will be doing mild flying and possibly an odd roll and flip. In the near future the heli may be hauling a camera for fun videography/photography.

I am thinking of getting Futaba s3102s (to keep the cost low). I see that s9650 is a popular choice, but cannot fork out that extra @ the moment. My Q is, Is there anything wrong with using 3102s for what i need out of the machine?

WRT rx - i am thinking of getting schulze alpha (i think its same as berg) or should i go PCM? i have seen threads regarding this but am unable to conclude as to which is better?
11-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
CloudyIFR
Senior Heliman
Location: Montana

Since you're getting the Orbit motor you won't be doing any really hard 3D so the 3102's will be fine. I use them with my Hacker A30-8XL motor, essentially the same motor, and have had no issues.

I'm sure folks will try and talk you into a Digital servo but it's not really required.

Just my opinion.

Curtis
11-18-2006 Over year old.
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Pyrock
Key Veteran
Location: SF Bay Area

Congrats!!
Mine is on the way too and I cant wait. I'm running the same battery only I'm using a Hacker C50 13L on a CC Phoenix 80. I'm excited to fly something larger than my Trex450 SE.

Do you have any other helis or is this your first? What kind of flying do you do?
11-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lowflyer101
Key Veteran
Location: garden grove, CA

i am also new to logo. my power setup is z-power 1100kv, new version. cc85hv. 6s1p

hey my logo10-3D come with 4mm main blades grips bolt. but the cf blade included the kit only has 3mm holes on it ?????

anyone else got this problem???

<-freedoom flyer->
11-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Lorents
Elite Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

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... 4mm main blades grips bolt. but the cf blade included the kit only has 3mm holes on it ...

You can tap out the brass insert in the blades to use them with 4mm bolts. Some people doesnt like to do that, but I have flown it like that for a while without any problems



What comes around goes around.
11-18-2006 Over year old.
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TOSH
Elite Veteran
Location: In Rehab Sunday to Thursday.

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or should i go PCM?

Well l definately would go pcm. No one could talk me into ppm.

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CSM 560 micro
s9254 t/s

This will hold the tail like a vice but you must deal with the static build up from the belt. l like to earth the tail shaft to the motor but lots have no problems when using graphite.

Good luck, you`ll love it.

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11-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

thanks all. I think i am as excited as when i bought my first heli!
i've always used PPM on my nitros and schulze rx (Berg equivalant) on my X400.
I have seen people here talking about 'lockout'. Actually, i'm scared of the term 'lockout' than the actual consequences.
11-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
oldboldpilot
Key Veteran
Location: Southern California

Swashplate,

The advantage of PCM is that brief moments of interference can't cause your heli to react in some violent fashion.

If the problem persists, well, oh, dear. But you had a crash no matter what under those circumstances.

In my experience, I have seen the advantage of PCM over FM or PPM. I was flying my Logo 14, and, twice in five minutes, she went into "fail-safe" for just a second. My failsafe set-up is idle throttle, everything else stay where you were..

So I heard the throttle drop, but the heli kept going, and then the throttle came back up.

This happened in exactly the same spot in the sky.

At my field, helis fly here, fixed-wingers there. Turns out a fixed-winger's XMTR was "on," and, of course, we were sharing the channel. At the point where my RC set went into fail-safe, the heli was 1/2 the distance from his XMTR than from mine. This means his XMTR had 4 times the signal strength at the heli RCVR than did mine.

But using digital "words" versus analog signals is a big advantage. Had I been using FM, my heli would have been in the dirt. As it was, all his 4X signal strength could do is to cause a brief loss of communication in my RC set.

By the way, all digital communications uses a "PCM" kinda approach, although a bit more sophistocated. Your computer would never boot up otherwise..

Helis are Man's Defiance of the Laws of Nature - OCHC
11-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
MikeC
Key Veteran
Location: Wausau, WI

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Had I been using FM

You mean PPM. It's all FM.



Mike

Century Swift, Hirobo Sky Robo, Spektrum DX7
11-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

Ah, now i get it. I always had this feeling that PCM receivers just 'lockout' when something goes wrong and since in electrics the posibility of something going wrong is very high, so my doubt. Obviously that's not the case.
11-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

Hello again,
i am thinking of getting this charger and balancerfor my lipos.
Anything i should know about these?

Also, i want to buy some servos, if someone has these to sell, please leave a PM.
http://www.runryder.net/helicopter/t299889p1/
11-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
BoneDoc
Senior Heliman
Location: San Antonio, TX

That should be fine, even though I recommend the Astro 109 for better "upgradeability". It'll handle up to 9 cells.

**If you ain't crashing, you ain't flying hard enough**
11-20-2006 Over year old.
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jrvander
Senior Heliman
Location: Mystic, CT

Thunderpower 1010C!

I received the 1010C for my birthday, what a charger! It's fast, versatile and "smart" when you have the 210 balancer hooked into it. Kinda spendy at $180 but I don't think you'll ever need another charger, ever.
If you're on a budget, the Multiplex LN-504 is nice. It does up to 5S and NiMH, NiCD, Pb, etc. You can get them for about $80 at most places. I use it fro the smaller Rx packs and my 3S packs for the T-rex and Eco8.

GrandRC has 9650's for $60 each.

- Jon

Jerry wins!
11-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

Hello all again.
I was looking at servos again and saw JR 3121. How would you rate them, If i'm able to get these for reasonably cheaper price.
edit:
also any thoughts about hitec 5245 mg digis

jrvander: Thanks for suggesting Grand RC for 9650s. the problem is shipping charges and hefty taxes once the servos hit the UK shore especially, when i have very little money
11-23-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

OK. just bought 3 JR 3121 servos. I hope they do the job. (Obviously didnot pay the full price.)
11-24-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Dr Lodge
Elite Veteran
Location: Guildford, Surrey - UK

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Since you're getting the Orbit motor you won't be doing any really hard 3D

I've seen a Logo 10 using the 20-10 motor on a 6s setup and its ballistic, so depends what battery pack you're using. Go to a 5s setup with this motor and it'll be very lively. I'm using 6s and have a 20-12 on order.

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Sorry for the long note, I didn't have time to write a short one.
11-24-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lowflyer101
Key Veteran
Location: garden grove, CA

i am using 6s & 7s on Z-power 1100 kv / 21T .. on 7s I just set throttle curver down a little bit ...


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OK. just bought 3 JR 3121 servos. I hope they do the job. (Obviously didnot pay the full price.)

for that price ($69) why don't get digital servos inteal ? said 9650 or 5245 ...

<-freedoom flyer->
11-24-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

Dr Lodge,
I am a very average pilot. Basic flying and an odd flip and roll hence a 4s4p setup for the moment. Will reserve the HV setup for next season

lowflyer101
I got those servos for nearly 1/2 that price. (About £21 including delivery). The Hitec digis would have cost me around £26 but I was not too sure about them for 2 reasons. One, Availability of gear sets etc and secondly reliablity. I posted here for to find out everybody's opinion on hitec digis but since there was no response, i went with my gut feeling i just hope i wont regret.
11-24-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lloyd
Veteran
Location: Port Elizabeth,South Africa

Morning

i have a orbit 20-10,18T,7 emolis and h/speed 2250.i think this motor is a good all rounder.........not bad.

there are just too many good helis to get past my wife...

lloyd
11-25-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Swashplate
Key Veteran
Location: UK

Hello again.
Just wondering if i need a saparate BEC with Jazz 80-6-18? From what i read it has a 4amp (switching???) BEC. Will it be sufficient to run all the servos (3X JR 3121) and gyro+tail servo (CSM560 + fut s9254)?
12-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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