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Brian Bennett
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Location: Dugway/Tooele UT, USA

Need a beta tester??

--Gi
01-06-2003 Over year old.
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Malorie
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Location: Paw squared, MI

That would be me, the person up to her elbows in epoxy-glass. LOL

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01-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Brian Bennett
Key Veteran
Location: Dugway/Tooele UT, USA

I figured as much. You might put some tail blades on the test model to help it fly better!
01-06-2003 Over year old.
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Malorie
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Location: Paw squared, MI

Yea, maybe if it were a real model. Then some screws, bearings, crank case, carborator, spark plug, fan, fan shroud, and various other stuff would help too. LOL
I LOVE LIGHTWAVE 3D!!

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01-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Nice Work!!!

Well done Malorie. That's a real cool looking canopy.

Magnum Fuel
01-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
spincycl
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Location: Marietta, GA

I agree 100% with all the positive comments. When I call, I talk directly to Larry Bergen THE owner/designer of their helicopters, and THAT's great. Xcell is great, but you just can't talk to the designer any old time. Larry even LIKES talking to customers... we have had several 1 hr conversations, and they were NOT about any problems, but just chatting. I was impressed that he got me some parts for a frame set for the Xcell that they made a decade ago. He has all of the old Xcell parts in stock. IF he doesn't have something, then he will MAKE it for you, and that's service.

I talked to him about a CCPM version. He is right: they do have the best mechanical system there is, and this is for many reasons. But, I did let him know some comments by 3D flyers, and he did listen. It's not that they should change it, but I think I want to see a Bergen CCPM design. If Bergen could make THEIR version of CCPM and it would be THE CCPM that others will be judged by. And, a Bergen CCPM heli would be great with the extra power of 3 servos on collective. The reason to go to CCPM is not just to get on the bandwagon, but rather to go with 3D flyers. For 3D, CCPM is THE way to do it. In normal flying you don't need the collecive power as much, but for 3D, it really helps.

Their new industrial machine prototype has a 4 servo CCPM. Bergen puts high emphasis on redundancy, especially in the industrial helis. Pull one ball link and the heli will still fly fine, even that 4 servo ccpm.

Bergen: PLEASE try a CCPM design. Don't copy any other design at all, but a Bergen design. I think you could make the BEST system there is. IF you do CCPM like you did your other systems, then it will be THE system. You WILL sell more helicopters with it, I guarentee.
01-06-2003 Over year old.
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Toad
Senior Heliman
Location: Hurricane, Utah

I want that canopy!
looks nice to me, hope they offer it in glass soon
I luv my Treppy!
01-06-2003 Over year old.
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spincycl
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Location: Marietta, GA

I'll second that, I WANT that canopy.

Robbe is using that one on their new "X" heli coming out soon.

www.RCmarket.org has them for sale

My gallery has a few pictures of this canopy/heli
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Brian Bennett
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Location: Dugway/Tooele UT, USA

Yep I'm in for one. Malorie can start tallying up the royalty checks. Personally, I don't care for the current canopy ( I actually have a mercury/baron on mine) and would love this alternative.

--Gi
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Malorie
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Location: Paw squared, MI

That canopy cannot be for sale anywhere as I designed it less than a month ago and I am building the molds for it now. It should be availible sometime around February if all goes as planned.

I have spoken to Chris and Larry and they are willing to aquire the mold from me so it will be availible from them.

Life's a journey, NOT a destination.
01-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Toad
Senior Heliman
Location: Hurricane, Utah

I was going to say , it doesnt look like the one on RCmarket.org to me, the cheeks are different. Besides, I prefer to support Bergen.
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heliman41
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Location: Valparaiso IN. USA

It is awful hard to disagree that 3 servos on collective isnt better than 1 no matter how fast or strong it is. Id take a small amount of interaction that CAN be removed at the TX end in order to use 3 collective servos anytime over 1, reason being I had a single collective servo start to go out on my XL60 last season let me tell ya it was no picnic to fly! Made me a believer in 3 servos now Ill tell ya that. Luckly it wasnt crashed, phew.........................new servo installed and its like night and day again but nothing like 3 digitals pushing and pulling of course. Bergen probably will have to eventually do a CCPM but it wont be Larry doing the honors it will probably be Chris or someone else Larry already did his time and deserves time off for good behaveure and I doubt he is interested in going into debt again..............for us!
01-07-2003 Over year old.
 
 
banshee rider
Heliman
Location: n.e. illinois

new canopy

I wwwaaaannnntttt one That is awesome looking Great job malorie!!! Let us know when its available

ageing is manditory maturity is optional
01-07-2003 Over year old.
 
 
kshaw2154
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta, Ga. USA

Awesome, Malorie! Design, color scheme etc.
01-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
spincycl
Veteran
Location: Marietta, GA

That canopy is on a Robbe Mille clone. The Dyna-X heli is a full carbon copy with just a few changes to the frame and controls. Even the fan shroud is carbon!

So, he does sell the canopy separate... I may see about getting one, but I just don't know if it will fit my XL SE, as it looks kinda thin.

WWW.RCMARKET.ORG

Has anyone bought from this site?
01-08-2003 Over year old.
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Malorie
Elite Veteran
Location: Paw squared, MI

spincycl,
I will repeat again since you seem to have missed it earlier, this canopy is NOT a knock-off from any canopy on the market. I designed it specifically to fit the Intrepid Gasser. Any similarities between my design and any others on the market are purely coincidental.

If you look at the canopy you are refering to you will see that there are many differences (the cheeks on mine have no scoop look to them, the tail is more integrated into the model, the windshield is quite different...).

Just wanted to make it clear that this is not a knock-off of any other canopy.

BTW I am psyced about this new canopy. I am working nightly on completeting it. I should be started on the molds this weekend.

Malorie

Life's a journey, NOT a destination.
01-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Toad
Senior Heliman
Location: Hurricane, Utah

I am just hopeing that it will fit the Intrepic 3d besides the gasser, it sure dont look like a mille knock off to me either.
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Malorie
Elite Veteran
Location: Paw squared, MI

There is a possability of the 60s canopies being redesigned also. I just started with the Gasser because that's what I fly. There are a couple of other reasons too.

I think it would fit the stacked frame 60 a little wide, but will be W I D E on the 3D.

Life's a journey, NOT a destination.
01-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
spincycl
Veteran
Location: Marietta, GA

Sorry if you misunderstood. That IS NOT an Intrepid canopy, I know that. But, it still looks cool, similar to the new intrepid one.

If the new Intrepid one won't fit my heli, then the Dyna-X might work.

That's all I meant.

Nobody ever said knockoff, no not me.

A cool canopy, is a cool canopy, and each is unique. And, the new Intrepid is REALLY cool. Good work.
01-08-2003 Over year old.
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Augusto
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Location: San Diego, CA

Holy cow, now that's what I call a classy canopy!

Malorie that canopy is truly a work of art.
What software are you using for modelling/rendering? Is that Solidworks?

When I saw Clive Ceney flying his Bergen at the XFC I remember someone saying something like "what a great flight. It's a shame he's using such a dated canopy design it kind of clashes with such a nice flying machine"
I tended to agree with him and I see you probably had the same feeling.

Keep up the good work!

Augusto.

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01-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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