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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

caliber 5 must be it's caliber out of 10. Hmmmm. My last flight with a kyosho was a Concept 30DX about 15 years ago! It had an old futaba gyro (you know....the one that had the spinning gyro inside...think it was a 154 or something)
06-22-2008 11:30 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Caliber 5 for 3D? Say it aint so.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-22-2008 11:34 AM
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AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

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(anyone still using 40mhz ?)

Yes Neil, I'm still on 40mhz.. but you probably don't need the peg board.. I think I must be the only one left
06-22-2008 11:55 AM
 
 
lpearce
Senior Heliman
Location: Pukekohe, Auckland NZ

yip, was a great day at the kumeu feild on saturday. Apart from the early showers, And my Auto that ended up being straight into a cow s$@t That got me fired up so I beat on it and chucked that S@#t everywhere to get it off the skids. I was quite supprised as to how many newbies were there with there Kyosho machines, That obviously had little help from the place of purchase with the setup off them. I had one chap come and ask me to help him setup his caliber5 with 770 gyro (Its really twitchy, He said), Which I was more than happy to do. Trouble was I looked at the setup in the radio (DX7) and hello no expo on rudder, ATV's at 150, D/R at 80 and the gain at 53 with negative expo (30%) loaded into ELE and AIL
No Throttle Hold set or anything......I thaught to myself Holly Crap. Anyway rather than just take the radio off him and programe it I asked him to do it and that id tell him what to do and what all the settings did. Then I asked Grant to test fly it (Im mode 1) which he was happy to do also.
I know that there are many many people in that club that would have helped out the same if they had been there. I was just a bit disapointed that the supplier of the kits/gear had not really lead them in the right direction to start with.
And all the while that I was helping this nice guy out , there was another young dude peeping over my shoulder watching... I then found out that he had the exact same setup and problems....

Anyway all was well in the end...Good to see newbies at a proper feild and not scared to ask for help...

Ps: I cant spell for S#$T so sorry about that

Xtreme- 50 .....aka ( BLACK SHEEP)
06-23-2008 09:33 AM
 
 
jpla010
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

wow was everyone at kumeu on saturday except 4 me? Finish exams next monday so hopefully will be able to get back outside and do some flying. Havn't even had a chance to go on the sim

Jonathon
06-23-2008 09:39 AM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Seems to be quite a few new sellers that are now trying to peddle // imported wares through trade-me with little or no backup to the unsuspecting newbie around now. Not that I am suggesting that was the case here.
Anyway I thought you guys were the historical home of Kyosho in NZ and every club member had at least one in his car. So maybe the seller knew where the best help would be to send his "clients".
It's when some newbie turns up with some old piece of crap Morley or Concept DX that looks like it will fly to bits if the blades manage to start turning that helping people out gets frustrating. - If only they would come to a club before they buy some ****ter off TM

Dean
06-23-2008 09:46 AM
 
 
jpla010
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Ive tried to help a few guys at Kumeu with Caliber 3's.. it doesn't take long before I give up and hand them over to the guys who suggested they buy that $hit

Jonathon
06-23-2008 09:56 AM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

It's their own fault for not wanting to be involved in a club till after getting some $hitter. Some people I have found want to "experiment" to see if they like it and don't want to be bothered getting help from someone in the know and certainly don't want to join a club. Those that do join a club before hand and are prepared to listen generally have a much better time and purchase better gear from the get go.

I have three rules for helping people.

1. If you ask me a question and then argue with me you don't need my help.
2. If you bring some piece of crap into my workshop I will still try to help but won't spend a lot of time on the machine.
3. Please join a club.

As far as trademe goes their are some quality second hand goods available from time to time. I know.....I sell plenty of my used stuff there.....but I don't sell crap. Unfortunately it is hampered by the fact that you have to wade through dozens of moronic flutterby toys. I suggest people sort by highest price first and not to place much importance on what some 4 channel whizzy toy sells for when comparing to quality second hand goods. I have to say this of course as it's an outlet for me to change or upgrade my gear through!!! I would rather that people compared to new prices to see what they would save and if they are not happy with second hand they need to buy new from the reputable sellers. Unfortunately this does not stop the uninitiated from buying some jingle shingle with a 410T, 4 539 servo's and an ASP 46 from buying "the bargain of the week" hmmmm....turns out not to be a bargain after all. Damn motor wont stay going....tail wont go into heading hold (ya dude it don't have heading hold)...heli floats around in the hover (well they are 539 servo's that only cost $30....what did you expect?)

I always tell people to expect to shell out 2.5K to get started as a minimum for good gear and head them towards a good retail seller.....if they raise their eyebrows at that and start talking about some caliber 5 with a 410T and hitech optic 6 for $500 on trademe I switch off almost instantly. Can't blame them....they need educating.
06-23-2008 10:11 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Same here Jonny. And I wasn't at the field Saturday either.

I have helped many people set up their helis and radios at our field (Kumeu) before only to come back the following weekend to find they have been changed back???? It seems there are some at the field not exactly teaching the right way to setup a heli and then defending that way to the death.

Oh well, you do what you can. We can only hope that some positive changes happen at our field in the future.

Oh and BTW - most of those Kyoshos people have at our field were bought on the recommendation of people from OUR field! The ones doing the bulk of the training that is. Why they would recommend a Caliber for newbies is beyond me - though I have some ideas there...

Optic 6??? Heaven help us. That is hands down THE worst radio I have ever had the displeasure of trying to help someone with.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-23-2008 10:14 AM
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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Optic 6??? Heaven help us. That is hands down THE worst radio I have ever had the displeasure of trying to help someone with.

YUP....I can't be bothered.

I hear ya on the other stuff Jason. Thank goodness I sent my work colleague your way. Cheers.

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It seems there are some at the field not exactly teaching the right way to setup a heli and then defending that way to the death.

Unfortunately true. People get their own way of plugging the cat and no one elses way is remotely considered. I always tell newbies to listen to everyone and form your own decisions....never take just one persons ideas including my own or all you get to be is that persons image...sometimes not a good thing! Most intelligent people soon learn who to take ideas from and who to nod convincingly to!!

I like to listens to others ideas....I dont know everything and am prepared to be called wrong.....unfortunately some newbies don't...
06-23-2008 10:28 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yup Nut, you are right. It is hard for them to question things though when they are BRAND new to the hobby (they don't even know what questions to ask yet). And by the time we get to them, they are often flying a Caliber 3 with an Optic 6 on Mode 1. Now what the he11 are you supposed to do with that???? LOL.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-23-2008 10:34 AM
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lpearce
Senior Heliman
Location: Pukekohe, Auckland NZ

Whats Wrong with Mode 1 Just kidding, I fly mode 1 only cause i progressed from planes ages ago and cant be arsed changing.

What worried me was the fact that these machines were being flown in the hovering square, less than 10m away from where the cars/ My family were parked. And when there not setup properly anything could happen. 10m gets eaten up pretty dam quick with an out of control heli.

I just think that if "people" (I think everyone knows who im talking about here) are going to retail these Kyosho machines, they should at least offer good setup help like the other leading retailers in NZ do.(again everyone knows who im talking about)

At the end of the day. I dont mind helping out at all, same as anyone else here doesnt. I just believe if your gona sell RC helis to newbies you should at least know how to set one up properly even if it is just a begginer setup......

By the way I was thinking about donating a colorsteel roof for that shelter thats at the feild.... would have been good to hide from those showers under... Who's the man I need to speak too???

Xtreme- 50 .....aka ( BLACK SHEEP)
06-23-2008 10:56 AM
 
 
jpla010
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yup

I was one of the lucky ones
first RC heli controlling experience was "RC stuntcopter" on Playstation at my mates house (mode 2 on dual shock controllers ) many years before I could afford the real thing..

Also got lucky the first person I met at Kumeu was Steve Engle. Went out there to check if the gear I wanted to buy was the right choice. The only thing that I needed to change on my purchase list from his advice was the upgrade to a JR 9XII and confirmation that getting a good sim was the way to go.

Thanks Steve!!

Yes about that square.. For us guys that like to fly 3D we arn't allowed to fly from the square because its too close to pits. Instead we have to fly off a very small mown patch 5 metres in front where we can have a learner come and hit us in the back.

Jonathon
06-23-2008 11:02 AM
 
 
RC Hobbies - NZ
Heliman
Location: New Zealand

Hey Jonathon,

There was this one time, not at band camp but at the Kumeu field I was down the field flying (well trying too) and I experienced a learner hovering above me the freaking training feet on. Come to think of it I think Kevin may have been spotting for me.....

Anyway, it scared the crap out of me, and I packed that sh*t up and sat down to regather my thoughts.

Saturday was the first time I had been back since then and as per my pervious post we have a great day.

Chur

G
Member of "Team X-treme" AKA, The BLACK sheep of NZ!!
06-23-2008 11:07 AM
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JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yes, we accept that our field is not the ideal layout for RC Heli Flying. We accept it because there is little we can do about it. It is long and narrow vs. wide and shallow. It aint pretty but we cope, cowsh1t and all.

But when 2 or more learners are in that hover box I'm outta there and down the field or off home. A rotor blade to the back of the head would not be pretty!

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-23-2008 11:25 AM
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lpearce
Senior Heliman
Location: Pukekohe, Auckland NZ

Dude, Least you got a field......Have you seen the state of ours

Xtreme- 50 .....aka ( BLACK SHEEP)
06-23-2008 11:29 AM
 
 
Vteckz
Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

HAHA! now that is funny... but oh soo true

"Beat On IT!"
06-23-2008 11:34 AM
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Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

It is not just the learners you have to worry about there either, I was filling my pants when someone was flying 3D in the middle when Jonny and I were test flying the 700 the other week, we walked right down to the end and even then I spent most fo the time looking back, I do not recommend flying down the field without a spotter or even two. I am getting old and want to get older yet, you need to give these machines a lot of respect.
06-23-2008 11:55 AM
 
 
Vteckz
Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

.......they seem to like to chase me for some reason.....

"Beat On IT!"
06-23-2008 11:59 AM
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JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Linton that was the funniest sh1t I've ever seen with a heli in person before. You were literally RUNNING from it, with your radio over your head for protection!! I know it was close and could have injured you but as soon as I knew you were safe I absolutely pi$$ed myself laughing!!!

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-23-2008 12:02 PM
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