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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

Nah Dean after looking into the electrics again I ended up coming to the same conclusion as before....for me the nitro benefits outweigh the only two benefits of electric power to me. Thats cleanliness and quiet so you can have a sound generator to make a turbine noise etc for a scale model. The thought of having to charge the batteries for a 5 min flight, pay for the batteries, have more than one so you can fly more than once in a three hour period, get only 50 to 100 charges out of them before they start going south and buying a new lipo charger turns me right off.

A decent ESC with Bec, efficient motor and three batteries would cost upwards of $1400/$1500. Suck that. One nitro motor and 300 flights would probably cost the same. The nitro motor will make it as would the electric. Same couldn't be said for the batteries.

I'll look at it again when the batteries etc get cheaper/better etc.
05-28-2008 12:19 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Glenn I just bought a Trex 500. She flies incredibly well and batteries are ok too (2X3s in series). The reason I bought it? So I can fly during the week in the schoolyard behind my house. Couldn't do that with a Nitro. Electrics have there place as long as it's 500 sized or less. Otherwise the costs spiral out of control. The 500 blows the old 450's away, SO much more stable and competent.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
05-28-2008 12:44 AM
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Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

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Any chance of getting it couriered down then so we can give it the Welly once over, we promise to look after it - honest

Not a lot of chance in that at the moment, you could all car pool and see what is north of the Hutt, road trips are a lot of fun we did it to go to Welly lets see if you guys can do it and venture north. We don't bite here and there is always a spare bed and a cold one in the fridge.

K
05-28-2008 01:06 AM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Glenn I'm hearing you re electics. Now that I am back in the land of the heli living (not Blenheim) I am looking for a new heli, ironically not too many months after almost giving away my R90 and some new servos and a couple of sets of new blades. Oh well that's the vagaries of being in the air force - good luck to those that have them.
Started thinking about a 600 size, but I really did not get a big buzz out of flying the Sceadu when I had it and always preferred the Rappy. Flying space is not an issue for me as I have 10 acres at my back door and the Wellington field is good. Consequntly I have decided a 90 will be the way to go and either the T-rex700 or the RJX90 are on my short list when they are released to us peasants.
Have already got some Futaba BLS servos and will get a SGP reactorX once I can track down a place that has them in stock.
I am thinking about the CY gyro and gov for a change and the forum feedback seems pretty positive.
The eng/muffler is a bit of a dilemma. I really liked my YS90ST and quite like the SR model for regulated pressure and ease of tuning, but I really don't like the way the muffler bolts into the case on the YS, and not through it like the OS. I also read OS is bringing out another engine, the question is when?

Footey wrote
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Not a lot of chance in that at the moment, you could all car pool and see what is north of the Hutt, road trips are a lot of fun we did it to go to Welly lets see if you guys can do it and venture north. We don't bite here and there is always a spare bed and a cold one in the fridge.

sounds great and fair call about the Welly guys reciprocating the effort of the guys that came down to support the event here in March (including the bitter taste left by some lowlife, who by the way made the local paper a few weeks ago as being charged).

Dean
05-28-2008 12:39 PM
 
 
Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

I should give a bit of an update on the stolen helis so here it is.

Two clowns got done for receiving after trying to swap a heli for a plane being sold on trade me.

The next guy got done for doing the burglary I think they got info off the first two idiots.

Now they have got one more guy who was in possesion of another heli.
The insurance company has what is left of the helis in Hamilton now, I have had a look but most of them have had a a hard time with stripped servo gears and main gears, puffed up LiPo batteries and parts swapped between all of the helis. I am negotiating a price for the remains, I dont know if I will rebuild them or just use them for parts.

Hope fully these guys will plead guilty otherwise I will have to go to the court case as a witness and that will cost me more money, I will be putting the boot in on the witness stand if I do have to go down there.

The guy who did the burglary has strong gang connections and the cops think he will go away for three years. They are only toy helicopters but when there is $50K worth of them it is treated as a serious offence.

If I do have to go to Welly I will bring the 700 for show and tell.
05-28-2008 08:58 PM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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Otherwise the costs spiral out of control. The 500 blows the old 450's away, SO much more stable and competent.

Hey Jason....yeah you can use a 30 size fuse with the 500's too so the guy in HKG told me. They had a nice airwolf there. It's a thought. Thanks for helping with Laki....he's only ten mins from you so I think he will call ya. Cheers dude.

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I am thinking about the CY gyro and gov for a change and the forum feedback seems pretty positive.
The eng/muffler is a bit of a dilemma. I really liked my YS90ST and quite like the SR model for regulated pressure and ease of tuning, but I really don't like the way the muffler bolts into the case on the YS, and not through it like the OS. I also read OS is bringing out another engine, the question is when?

Hey Dean. Yes I hear ya on the 90's. I am selling out of all my 50's except for the scale 500 I am doing and popping my sceadu 50 mechs in there. It will be more stable than the 600mechs. I love the 600N but better for 3D. The sceadu is better suited to the F3C and scale.
I'm getting a 700N as soon as they are out. They can stuff the Aurora as far up their A$$eS as they like.
Engines. Apparently the YS 91 long stroke goes really well....wayne reckons it's an excellent power plant. I have always been a little dubious about their parts support however as quite a few have had problems getting replacement parts and I doubt that bearing issues are any different to the OS line. As far as how they bolt on their mufflers....hard to know....I have seen the results of you smashing your R90 into the deck and wasting your crankcase so I know what you are thinking. I dicked my sceadu once with the funtech on which has an O ring mount and no damage to the crankcase...just the muffler mount which I repaired.
OS has just never got their pressurisation systems right with most prefering the straight three needle set up or a cline mod.
I have an OS 91 sz-h PS here. I'll try it and see how goes with a carb smart attached to it. Had it for over a year and a half sitting in the draw for the 2 1/2 year old Aurora.
I like the 90's as well. gas guzzling buggers that they are but only costs four times as much as running my car now..

Kevin thanks for the updates on the lowlifes. You can just imagine a group of scumbags that look like neanderthals poking and prodding at the heli'....making grunting noises at them and screaming with their arms waving frantically when they do nothing. They obviously managed to hook them up....hope someone got whacked with some angry blades when they did that.
05-29-2008 12:33 AM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

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I'm getting a 700N as soon as they are out.

I'm almost with ya. The RJX is sounding great, but the get parts everywhere nature of the 700 makes it hard to go past. As I am currently on a course involving numerous essays and presentations I may be hanging off until later in the year for the heli though. So will be interested in seeing one flying in real life before then.
I am also interested in the feedback on the problem with the carbsmart sensor and what guys in NZ are using to stick it in place on the head.

Dean
05-29-2008 02:34 AM
 
 
Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

I dont know if any of the W..kers got hit by the helis they tried to fly but ther is still a couple out there so there is still hope.

I have been using the Artic Silver thermal epoxy to hold the sensor on my 600, a couple of people have had trouble with the sensors but mine is still going ok, I have done maybe 20 flights now so it is still early days.

I have one of Waynes YS 91 motors in the 700 to use until the OS 91SZ gets here so it will be good to see what one performs the best or if I can even tell the difference.

I have been flat out so havent got the 700 in the air yet but all of the servos and linkages are done now just need to mount the gyro and RX and program it into the radio. I have two 14MZ radios now so I might change one to mode 1 for people to have a test fly but most guys flying helis are mode 2 these days so it may just become a buddy box radio.
05-29-2008 12:19 PM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

yeah my CS sensor only lasted 5 flights. Still got to get that sucker out of the head. I used arctic silver 5 combined with JB weld. Next time I'll just use copper silicone. I felt it worked well till the sensor crapped out but I was still in the stages of fine tuning.

Kevin....are you liking the quality of the 700 so far. (ok dumb question as you will sell them ya) I agree with Dean. Parts support is the most important factor with keeping a heli airborne. Cost, reliability, durability are all up there too.

All said and done as I have found out that even though it's nice to own and fly a top class machine a pro can make any heli look good and they can be a darn sight more expensive for little gain. Having said that it's good we have a lot of different helis to choose from as it would be boring to see only one type of heli at the field.

So far it's the 700N for me.

Now I am thinking of putting the freya in a big fuse...something like a gun ship....yeah baby. Wouldn't sell it on trademe...put over 4k into that ship and I'd rather burn it than sell it for a grand.

Especially to one of these guys that ask a question on trade me like ...."how high does it go"....oh look just F... off would ya. Buy a walkera.
05-29-2008 10:29 PM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Can you get arctic silver in NZ??

Dean
05-29-2008 11:31 PM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

http://www.rchelis.co.nz/product_in...roducts_id=1025

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
05-29-2008 11:33 PM
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JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Hi all,

The NZMAA Heli Sig Survey is now online here:
http://www.rchelisnz.info/
for download.

Please let everyone know and then download it, fill it in and email it to the address provided on the survey.

Cheers

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
05-30-2008 12:10 AM
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Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Thanks Jason

I'm also interested if the Trex700 fan gub goes onto the YS engine crankshaft without any mods

Dean
05-30-2008 02:33 AM
 
 
Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

I have only had a couple of hovering flights with the 700, so far it is pretty good, hopefully I will get a chance to ring it out tomorrow.

I have borrowed a YS 91 off Wayne until my enine gets here, it all went together well with the exception of the slot in the main frame at the front for the Ali brace that sits above the skids, it was about a millionth of a millimeter too small so I had to give it a quick lick with a file. The only other thing was the main shaft has a step in it so there is no collar to slide down to lock the main shaft in place, the kit was supplied with some shim washers but I needed one 0.25mm thinner. This kit is a pre release version so I would expect these two problems to be sorted before they go into full production.

I havent had any other 90 machines to compare it to but I think it will move above the 600 in the nice to fly catagory.

Once it is all set up properly your welcome to have a fly of it, just keep a couple of mistakes from the ground as i only have limited spares.

I dont know what the kits will cost or what will come in the final version but as far as i know there will only be the one option with full metal like the 600 Super Pro.
06-01-2008 12:52 PM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

Thanks for the update Kevin
06-01-2008 01:14 PM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Sweet, can't wait to fang it!!

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-01-2008 01:16 PM
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Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Thanks for the update Kevin. Please let us know when you get some info on when the release version is arriving here.

Dean
06-01-2008 09:41 PM
 
 
Kiwi Raptor
Heliman
Location: Nelson New Zealand

A brief change of topic. I need a new gyro and would like to know what other Kiwi's are using and finding good???? I would appreciate your suggestions. Up till now I have used a 401/ 9254
thanks
Ross

T Rex 700 Raptor 50 Mini Titan
Kiwi's can fly
06-03-2008 10:01 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Check this out mate:
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t436277p1/

The JR770 is awesome too and is just a bit more $$ than the 401.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
06-03-2008 10:11 AM
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Kiwi Raptor
Heliman
Location: Nelson New Zealand

thanks just found that thread

T Rex 700 Raptor 50 Mini Titan
Kiwi's can fly
06-03-2008 10:27 PM
 
 
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