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AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

Yep, RR crashed again..
Gotta love how it rolled back to the Nut talking about lesbian's and his love for Big... Heli's Howd you manage to do that Glenn?
05-27-2008 02:09 AM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

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The posts are gone forever sadly. I don't feel like writing mine up again on this issue right now.
The basic gist was, we all love flying helis, some aren't fussed by competitions, and Wellington is a great site but the Auckland region guys can't cope with being too far south of the Bombay hills

Dean
05-27-2008 02:30 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Whatever.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
05-27-2008 03:28 AM
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South



The sceadu's new home.
Stole it off a guy in Hong kong for a good price. Very slight damage with some glass patching required. No painting but a crack in the fuse around the window area and a glass patch will be fine to fix. Wont bother trying to paint it. Just cover it with a decal or something. Just want to have a crack at scale. Bought a light unit for it as well to have landing lights and flashing red beacons etc.

It's a funkey fuse made for sceadu, century or raptor.
was going to go electric but after checking on the price of batteries decided I'd put up with the smoke and scream of my nitro engine.
I was going to electrify the sceadu....what a waste of money. $100's and $100's of bucks.
The trex 600 CF was the next choice and I bought a few things for it and then gave it away as the battery cost sucks and 5 min flights suck too.

So I have two specially made long TREX 600 main shafts for sale. $15 each. These will lift the head clear of the back of these fuses so no hitting occurs. The sceadu doesn't need lifting.

Cheers
Glenn
05-27-2008 07:12 AM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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Yep, RR crashed again..
Gotta love how it rolled back to the Nut talking about lesbian's and his love for Big... Heli's Howd you manage to do that Glenn?

Ummmm....i was just looking at them man....and bam...they disappeared. Just like lentils blowing up.

oh well. Guess we all better lighten up a bit.

Oh and does anyone have anything against Lesbians? I do...They take other women away and leave more men shagless. Mind you...a lot of them look like blokes and you wouldn't want to tip them up anyway unless you had at least 6 or 7 bourbans in you. (unless we are talking about the pretend ones found in the porn sites that ...umm...have accidentally fallen on my computer screen from time to time one or two hours a night)
Sorry if you are shocked....I am not too refined....and not ashamed of it either. If you are then hop off to church and go ask for forgiveness...I'm off to fly the sim, finish my wine and then look at porn, . Ahh....a perfect night.
05-27-2008 07:37 AM
 
 
NZ_Neil
Veteran
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Helinutnz,

What ever you do, dont share a motel room with Kevin at a FF, after a few Whisky's he will show you his collection of screen savers on his Laptop. John Knox and I will never be the same after those images.

I uploaded a stack of Heli/Hamilton Photos to RR last night, they were there this morning and then bam, theyre gone.... duh

Shame you missed the Comp & Funfly last weekend.
05-27-2008 08:14 AM
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JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Ask Kevin about MY collection. I think even he found it interesting. LOL.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
05-27-2008 08:34 AM
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AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

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Sorry if you are shocked

LOL Never shocked Nut.....
05-27-2008 08:56 AM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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Ask Kevin about MY collection. I think even he found it interesting. LOL

Hey Jase. we aren't into guys dude.

You guys are a bunch of sicko's....and I love it.

So do you like my scale 500 or not?
05-27-2008 09:37 AM
 
 
AllThumbs
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

Yep, 500's looks good..
Are you gonna keep the paint or do your own scheme??
05-27-2008 09:57 AM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

I'd like it to be all black but can't be arsed painting it. Know anyone that can paint it professionally for $100?
05-27-2008 10:35 AM
 
 
crudbug
Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

As some-one who is new to the sport (only been flying a few months), you can take this response of mine about the whole competition thing in one of two ways - firstly as a newcomer who hasn't been to a comp and thus doesn't know what he's talking about and therefore shouldn't be commenting; or secondly, as one of the new-comers to the sport that has been attracted both to the fun of flying R/C helis, and also to the social scene of getting out of the house and local neighbourhood, and sharing a few hours each weekend talkin' ****e with a bunch of guys with similar objectives.

So here we go - A few of my thoughts about the hobby in general and the competition scene from a complete novice:

Like all sports and hobbies, most people involved are there for the fun. Very few are interested in competing. Thousands of people around the country go running every day either for fitness, or just a fun activity with friends. Bugger all of them will ever want to compete in a race. Thousands of cyclists or swimmers or rock-climers or kayakers or sailers or knitters all do the same. Bugger all of them ever want to compete either.

I don't see our hobby as being any different.

Personally, I love flying, and I love getting out of the house. I'm a crap flyer who god knows can only get better! But no matter how good I get (or think I get) I will never want to compete. It's just not my thing. I can understand those that do, and I commend them. It takes a lot to push yourself to that level where you put your skills on the line, often against your mates.

After talking with Jason last weekend, I was dead keen to go to Hamilton to watch the competition. As stated earlier, I'm new to the sport and don't even have a wings badge yet, so I would have never be competing. But I enjoy watching the likes of Johnny and Jason and Linton and Ian and everyone else at the local club who put on great 3D shows. However I also enjoy watching slower, realistic, scale flying. And who can avoid the wonderous smell of burning Avtur when a turbine starts up! But unfortunately, R/C helis is not the only hobby I have. And unfortunately, things conspired against me last weekend, and the Offroader came out ontop of the heli. The Mighty Morris Minor didn't get the thrashing to Hamilton and back, and I missed seeing some great flying.

I imagine there were dozens of other people who would also have turned up if it weren't for other engagements - be it their kids sports games, keeping the peace with the partner, other hobbies, other interests, work engagements, family reunions, spent all the paypacket on heli repairs so had no cash for petrol money....the list goes on.

My point is, that we are a small hobby that (I believe) mostly do it for the fun and social reasons. Competing will never be a priority for most. Many who turn up to competitions just want to watch and enjoy the show put on by those with skills (or balls) far greater than most of us. For such a small number of people involved in the hobby, there are even less who want to compete in the hobby. And even less who want to compete in 3D competitions. And even less that don't have other hobbies, or prior engagements (or sudden emergencies), or lack of finances, that stop them getting there.

As for the fun-fly the following day: as mentioned earlier, I don't have my wings badge so can't fly at other fields. As soon as I do, I'll be at the local fun-flys for sure. For me thats why I love the sport. Thats why I bought a heli. Thats why I joined the club. To have a good, social fly with mates with similar hobbies. Talk ****e with people with similar interests. See all the wonderful machines around. And the infinately variable ways people find to fly them. To be inspired by guys with skills far greater than I'll ever have. All the time knowing that I'll never have an interest in competing.

My solution to the competition problems mentioned (argued) in the last month or so? None. That much I can say for sure. I haven't been around long enough to know what has or hasn't happened in the past, or to know what should happen in the future. I'm simply trying to point out that we are a small sport. With smaller numbers who want to compete. And even smaller numbers that can compete in a given event. If small numbers turn up, then maybe it has nothing to do with how it was or wasn't run. Or whether good enough prizes were offered. Or whether certificates were given out on the day. Or whether the start was delayed.

Maybe there just weren't enough interested in competing no matter how well it was run. Or how good the prizes were offered. How you change that I have no idea. The fact that there were lots of people who denied having helis until the comp was over seems to support this theory though.

At least fifty percent of my local club are beginners who don't have their wings badge, and therefore probably wouldn't consider going to fun-flys elsewhere until they do. Thats certainly my case. There is a lot of support for us, and maybe a bit more pushing would push people to get their wings earlier, and thus take away another barrier that stops attendance at fun-flys. It might also give them the confidence boost to know they can fly better than they thought. And then again, maybe not.

All I can say for sure is that even with my best laid plans to make it to Hamilton and watch the competition, on the day Murphy won and I didn't make it.

**** happens.



Phil Douglas


ps: Take my ranting with a grain of salt if you think I'm a newbie who should keep his mouth shut and ideas to himslef until I've even been to a comp let alone competed in one, or else take them as the ideas of your average club member. Either way, vent your anger on me and not the Mighty Morris! The seagulls already do that!
05-27-2008 10:37 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Phil I agree with you. You make some great points, especially from the viewpoint of a newcomer to our great hobby. The issue we as a SIG must confront is that there are MANY who have expressed an interest in competition of some sort. Many of these same people want to compete at the Nats but can't/won't due to where/when it is held. I am one of those.

Now the bigger issue is participation. It's all fine and good for us to discuss having our own Nats but it comes down to competitors. Based on the attendance or lack thereof at other comp's throughout the year I don't think we in good conscience can advocate our own Nats at this time. It would be a lonely event. At least if only a few show up at "The Nats" as it is currently, heli pilots (few or many, either way) at least have a bunch of plankers to hang out with.

Now, it may very well be that if we DID have our own Nats, that were well organised and planned, the same amount of pilots or more may turn up. That is an awfully big punt to take however. If it doesn't work out, the bridges will have been burned and it will be a worse off situation for all of us in the end.

The issues are complex and there are many viewpoints. It is our job as a SIG to represent those disparate views as fairly as we can so that the broadest base of support for our decisions can be achieved. We are here FOR Heli pilots, not to be dictators of what we think is best. We represent pilots at a National level and do the best we can. I am relatively new to the SIG but I can assure you, based on my experience, the members hearts are in the right place. We are and will continue to try and make decisions based on input from around NZ so that the largest number of pilots in NZ have the best heli community we can create, competitively and otherwise.

Your humble SIG member.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
05-27-2008 10:56 AM
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Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Great sentiments Phil and from what I can work out echoed by many who have been around a bit longer (not sure if there are any knitting competitions though.

To have the best chance a gathering needs a venue to cater for both competition and funfly simultaneously - and no I am not wheeling out the "Wellington has that option", as it could be anywhere that is considered central enough for the majority of potential attendees. From what I remember Rotorua may be OK (although it got small real quick in the drag racing), and there may be other options if a friendly farmer can be found.
As I have previously said though you need the participation and willingness of the local fliers to get any option off the ground.

Dean
05-27-2008 11:25 AM
 
 
Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

Hey Phil,

Who the hell said you cant go to a fun fly without a wings badge?

Hell all you need is someone with a wings badge to hold your hand when your flying, this shouldnt stop you from getting out and having fun.

You can even do your wings badge at the funfly, there is normally someone there who is qualified to take you through the test.

Fun flies are a very good place to get help and advice, I normally have a trainer lead in my box and there is always willing people to give you a hand.
05-27-2008 11:28 AM
 
 
Footey
Senior Heliman
Location: Hamilton New Zealand

The T-Rex 700 will be ready for a test flight tomorrow, I can't wait to unleash it at the next comp.

If the boys from wellington were too scared to come to a comp north of Upper Hutt before they will even more scared now.
05-27-2008 11:35 AM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

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I'd like it to be all black but can't be arsed painting it. Know anyone that can paint it professionally for $100?

Hey Glenn, Ross Bee from J&N Hobbies in Upper Hutt used to do an outstanding job on Si Lockington's Vigor canopies. But I think he used to charge $70, so you may need to blow the moths off that overfill pilots wallet and front up with a bit more coin to get a whole heli painted.

Dean
05-27-2008 11:36 AM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

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The T-Rex 700 will be ready for a test flight tomorrow, I can't wait to unleash it at the next comp.

If the boys from wellington were too scared to come to a comp north of Upper Hutt before they will even more scared now.

Any chance of getting it couriered down then so we can give it the Welly once over, we promise to look after it - honest

Dean
05-27-2008 11:43 AM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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Hey Glenn, Ross Bee from J&N Hobbies in Upper Hutt used to do an outstanding job on Si Lockington's Vigor canopies. But I think he used to charge $70, so you may need to blow the moths off that overfill pilots wallet and front up with a bit more coin to get a whole heli painted.

Ya I realised that.....thats why it will stay as the San Diego Sherrifs heli for now. I can't afford it. My Lamborghini needs a new engine, the viper a new clutch, the vette new brakes and the beach house up North needs the pool resurfaced. Our investment apartments have leaky roof syndrome and I'll have to pay for that out of a weeks allowances. The kids private schooling has hit the 100K a year mark and thats just for the preschool one. Honestly after the wife and kids have taken 80% of the rest I can barely buy fuel for my 30.

I can't be stuffed painting it. It would never look as good as it does now if I do it.

Yeah good one Phil. Need all the input. There is a survey coming out for you to respond to. Just have to find out where and when.

Cheers
05-27-2008 01:36 PM
 
 
Flight Engineer
Senior Heliman
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

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Honestly after the wife and kids have taken 80% of the rest I can barely buy fuel for my 30
Sounds like you need a Lepton. Oh no thats right, with all the uncoming power cuts in NZ again you won't be able to charge the batteries for it. - Time for nuke I say!!

Dean
05-27-2008 08:32 PM
 
 
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