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wo23dodge
Senior Heliman
Location: Omaha Ne, USA

he only got me for $10 and my last PM from him was 7-11-2006
02-10-2007 02:50 AM
 
 
devin120
Senior Heliman
Location: Canada

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There has to be something someone can do to help this situation. When ifrist came into RR a while back it seems things have escalated since then, the subject of scamming on RR. Maybe RR could start a more thorough screening process of the members that join. What i mean is that memebers will need to give more information as to their identity. I dont know throwing ideas out there but im sure somethign can be done.. Its a sad that this kind of stuff happens so much... ... I hope he spent that whole 10 dollars well.. Very unfortuante.
02-10-2007 03:23 AM
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BronxDefector
Senior Heliman
Location: United States

People have been scamming since the begining of the internet.
I think if you follow some simple rules you will cut your chances of being scammed. Scams in the helicopter comunity are everywere. Just ask any of the vendors on RR.
Some even have a crooks page like Ricks does. Take time to read some of the stories on his site. You will be amazed.

Here are a few tips from the Ricks site:
If you find a model on the internet, and you think you might want to buy it, be very cautious.
Ask for a lot of good close-up RECENT pictures. Don't accept a picture that doesn't show details.
Know the seller. Do a search for his name on the internet. Try www.deja.com or Google, and the mailing list archives.
If he gives references, check them out. Remember, anyone can put anything on the internet...that doesn't make it so.
Agree on payment terms and what will happen if you aren't satisfied. Basically be prepared to keep whatever is sent. http://www.rcheli.com/crook_stories.htm

PARTS... Can never have to many...
02-10-2007 07:17 PM
 
 
IncredibleITGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Portland, Maine

2 Transactions with SignWiz

I completed 2 transactions with signwiz a while ago. One for over 1K..the other near it. No problems, nice guy, easy to deal with...loves to talk.

------------IITG------------
02-11-2007 04:58 AM
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Don1127
Senior Heliman
Location: Manhattan, NY

Thanks Bronx,
Good tips. That whole thing with his girl was wierd. Sounds like they've got issues, but it's hard to figure out exactly what really happened....

D
02-11-2007 02:12 PM
 
 
Jimmi
Key Veteran
Location: Southern Ca. U.S.A.

Maybe we will see him on the 5 o clock news. LOL @ AL, Jimmi
02-13-2007 01:40 AM
 
 
wo23dodge
Senior Heliman
Location: Omaha Ne, USA

signwiz Last Online
01-01-2007 11:55 AM

just saw that while looking for my second to last PM he sent,he seemed all excited,just got done with some RC event and had placed high.


Only reason I lost $10 was because he was selling some JR receivers and wouldn't take paypal,so I ordered him a few things and had them sent to him,the stuff I ordered came to $10 more than his asking price and he said he would drop a $10 in with the receivers,the receivers showed up but no ten spot,he then said as soon as he got home from that event he would drop the ten in the mail,that was the last time I ever heard from him at least it was only ten bucks.

Brian
02-13-2007 09:29 PM
 
 
CJames
Elite Veteran
Location: Back in KC

He is back!

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t262931p1/
07-02-2007 06:16 AM
 
 
meekskin
Senior Heliman
Location: sunny california

Trying to make another bum deal....people better watch out for this guy....He is not what he seems. Buyer beware
07-02-2007 06:21 AM
 
 
signwiz
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkhorn City , KY + Sevierville , TN

This is crap, enough!!!

Here I am....funny how these people keep slandering me. Wish I lived on here as these other trolls do. This stuff wouldn't keep happening! What is this new 10 bucks thing?? I remember this deal but not 10 bucks, wo23dodge, somehow this slipped through the cracks. I apologise if this be the true situation. These other guys are just insane and this girl in question has completely LOST her mind. As far as being ill that part is true. I ve spent 20 years being sick with a nervous eating condition. Can barely eat anything, but I try to maintain a normal life, some on here have given me heck. It just keeps coming, not going to mention any names as they have shown who they are, I intend to address this situation as best I can. Looks like the legal system should be brought into this matter as this slanderous activity keeps on rolling from certain people. I can afford an attorney, so lets see where all this activity ends. when it does come to a close, and to be honest,I hope Soon. All things posted, suggested, even hinted at on this website or any other, any correspondence I can find will be handed to my attorney. We'll find the truth the best way POSSIBLE!! I m truely tired of this insanity!! Seems I find these things months or even a year plus later, I have telephone numbers which many on here have them. Why is it I find these things going on. Guess that'll be in my favor in the legal system!! <<---- I m tired of finding this crap on here. "This post is the last amoungst many I ve posted in my defense." Seems I find them many months later full of these types of comments and suggestive statements. If anyone believes I owe them a debt please feel free to contact me here. I ll send my phone number to anyone who requests it. As far as Elkhorn City KY it's a small town, my home sets only minutes inside it and everyone living inside it knows me. So, either come visit, I'll make you welcome and maybe we can fly heli's together!! Also if anyone owes me a debt...Look around on RR and see if you can find any mention of it. There isn't any such post, and there is many who owe me!!! Think about that!! People should look at the charactor of the poeple making these statements, and they've made them, OVER and OVER again !!!

Kong Power
Wildcat Fuels
MA USA
07-02-2007 07:31 AM
 
 
coops2
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

very simple

edited due to some uncertian issues....
07-02-2007 08:20 AM
 
 
coops2
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

ha ha suing???

as above
07-02-2007 08:23 AM
 
 
signwiz
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkhorn City , KY + Sevierville , TN

What money do I owe ???

Please give me a full statement and i ll gladly pay it!!!

Kong Power
Wildcat Fuels
MA USA
07-02-2007 09:19 AM
 
 
coops2
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

dude

as above
07-02-2007 10:38 AM
 
 
coops2
Senior Heliman
Location: New Zealand

so if he is so bad why has he got all positive fb from you guys?

good question can you answer it?
07-02-2007 10:47 AM
 
 
luz_husband
Heliman
Location: kentucky

I've known Jeff for years and have had many dealings with him, I have flown with him many times, Visited his Hobby Shop in Pikeville when he had it, Spent quite a bit of time with Jeff. I find it hard to believe any of this. I know he is a very busy person and travels extensively and can be difficult to contact at times. I have nothing but good things to say about him.

I would be very suspicious of the lady making the claims!! Sounds like she is the one working a scam or maybe a disgruntled Girlfriend.

There is no reason Jeff would need to use "her" money to buy anything, Im sure Jeff will take care of any problems, it may require a little time since he is a very busy person, but he will make things right.

As for this heli, It's yours, bought and paid for, no reason to have to return it.
07-02-2007 02:31 PM
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signwiz
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkhorn City , KY + Sevierville , TN

i spit on sueing aswell, I think it is stupid

This is GONE well beyond anything i ve ever seen, A guy from Alaska started this **** and NOW this Ken Meeks takes every oppertunity to SLANDER me. Neither of them have a real complaint. Truthfully I m the one who should be complaining. This guy Ken Meeks paid me 1100+ a few dollars for a fury extreme(which turned out to be A modified Fury Expert<---which I had no knowledge of, the engine locked up on him or just didn't run, Included in the deal was a JR950rx(250.00),3 x 9252,s(at time 100.00ea) or equivilent servos, v-blades, hhp tail blades,a very expensive gyro and servo(JR5000T, I think), custom fins and canopy, MP2 pipe and more stuff, get this it had a pro 2K head and if i'm not mistaken,still go for 200 plus?? All metal tail gear box too, LOTS of nice things in this helicopter!!!! I honored the things he asked for after the worst possible encounter imaginable arguing with this man!!!! the engine on it quit running or wasn't running but I sent him a like NEW OS70 which he claimed locked up 2 weeks later YET he sold one on here not long go. Seems like I sent him at least 500.00 in extra parts and he had no quarrell with me. He also ask for money back, I asked him how much would it take too make this right, and he gave me a figure. I paid it immediately. I sent him stuff you could sell still today for at least 1100 plus more, and more and more!!!

To respond to the $10.00 question, wo23dodge, this could be a true statement but I can't remember it. But it seems I ve not recieved any complaints from him over it, if it was a true statement, he recieved his goods timely, why worry a man about about it that just spent alot of money on a helicopter. I know the 2 recievers I sent him were about 70.00ea retail and were both NEW. he sent he about 80.00 in parts including shipping??? I don't doubt his word but I don't remember the debt???

Shawgl, Did you get what you paid FOR ???? Plus alittle more??? Please respond to this question??? Also, in our deal did I give you any problems or anything else that you'd deem bad dealing ETC

Sounds to me asthough your listened to the wrong people. You could've wrote me a letter. You had my address! I travel in the spring and summer and when I m not my life is very full between illness and other things....I ve apologize for this situation which i'm not even remotely responsible for??? PLEASE Advise!!!!!

Karl, the guy mentioned from Alaska and I had a disagreement and it was straightened out. It took time but in that situation AGAIN it wasn't all my fault. We both had hurt feelings from a few little misunderstands that snowballed, Kinda like this situation but if you notice with all these posts against me, either Ken Meeks or in the past KArl was in the middle Truely causing the problems and confusing peoples minds and turning an otherwise "NONE Situation into a BAD but UNTRUE situation." Ken is being malicious in his efforts to Destroy me, even after me doing everything in my power to make the slight error RIGHT with him, I sent literally 100's of dollars in parts ETC to him. But in his mind I did something wrong....

I ll never understand.

Anyone else that has a complaint with me, I d love to face you right here or face to FACE. If there is some error on my end or something I can straighten out....PLEASE give me the oppertunity to do so, NO ONE ELSE knows me!!! IN any way .... this AL who keeps jumping on these posts has NO CLUE but hear say BUT yet he will jump on these things everytime they flare up!!! I'm confused nothing against you coop2, but as the old saying goes ...Don't spread rumors and sh!t you have no knowledge of ...which is what you were doing to me.

MEDFLIGHT knows me alittle and he should know that this girl is insane, SHE is. mark Ryder had to delete her statements from my posts and also had to delete many of Ken's statements, Mark Ryder even knows me from all over the US from as far west as Vegas to Florida to the NATIONALS to events in many other states???

Anyone who knows me knows I go out of my way to do people right, I loan money to people I know need it that I know will never pay it back. I go hungry to help others, NOT ever to steal from anyone NOT ever. I m sure these people will have plenty more to say, They haven't stopped so far. Why stop now, I see no other course of action but a legal action, I ve begged pleaded and my nerves have been destryed by the problems this Ken meeks has caused for over 2 years now. I m fed up and it, has hurt me tremedously, I get very little pleasure in life and I ask for no sympathy. But my helicopter flying is one the things in my life that gives me occasional pleasure, I can't see any reason I should keep enduring this kind of maliciuos activities which in it's entirety has but one purpose, to harm me. without any just cause, which there is in my opinion never any just cause to do harm to any other human unless it is in defense of your or someone elses true life or livelyhood. In this case I see the harm caused by these false claims or misguided claims. I will state for those who aren't familiar with these things. I ve done all things possible to remedy this. Now, I turn to an avenue which I would've prefered not go down.

I wasn't the one who brought this to this point. I'm forced into a corner. I will respond as necessary!!!!

I truely plan to visit an attorney with all the information and the facts surrounding all these events immediately after the NATIONALS. It is the one thing I look forward too all year!!! This isn't going to spoil that for me. It has already spoiled enough of my life!

Kong Power
Wildcat Fuels
MA USA
07-02-2007 04:41 PM
 
 
dcbinkowski
Senior Heliman
Location: Lombard, IL - USA

RING of thieves is more like it.

I got scammed too. I invited Jeff and his accomplice over to my home, thinking they were nice God fearing people. Godless is more like it. While his lady friend got me all liquored up and pretended to like me, he went into my bedroom and stole a penny off my dresser. Once he took his toll, he and his wicked woman friend were off to their next mark, leaving me drunk, and down $.01

Don't tell anyone I was drinking though, my church will kick me out. In fact, how do I delete this post?

I have to go eat something so I can take my back pill.
07-02-2007 04:42 PM
 
 
CJames
Elite Veteran
Location: Back in KC

LOL!That was funny!
Give your PP addy my fellow heli dude, I have lots, and I just feel a need to help you with your tragic loss of your penny.

Anyone want a pet rabbit?.............I found him on the road dead and I'm tired of hugging him
07-02-2007 06:08 PM
 
 
shawgl
Key Veteran
Location: Sunny San Diego! Finally!!!

This is funny

I couldn't tell you how many pm's I sent to this guy while in Iraq. They went unread for months about the situation that I was contacted about from that girl. No reply for almost a year and now I get a reply from signwiz. Like I said in my original post...... I got what I paid for however being contacted after that fact by someone saying the heli was purchased with stolen funds puts a bad taste in your mouth. Especially when Signwiz wouldn't answer any pm's about it. If you are not guilty stand up and say it. Don't wait 10 months to do it. I will not close this post for the simple reason that people will make their own judgement about it. I was pretty put off about it. He sent the gear, as advertised with the exception of one m/r blade was cracked. No big deal, wasn't even worth my time after he wouldn't even answer about the scam accusations from that girl.

Best of luck to you signwiz.

Greg

In God we trust, everyone else we monitor.
07-02-2007 09:51 PM
 
 
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