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e-Ikarus Piccolo-Eco 8/16 > piccolo qustion

endrew
Heliman
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hello.i want to purchess a micro heli and im not sure which one.
my qustion is, if i'll buy the eco piccolo and later replace the a engine to 400, the picoboard to a pro, the batteries to 600MAH and add a peach control machanisem, will it be axactly the same as the piccolo pro?

is the basic kit, accept the peach control machanisem (including the blades)the same?

and another thing, can the fun virsion be operated with a piccoboard pro?

thanx!

11-29-2002 Over year old.

aviw
Heliman
Location: Israel

answer

Hi,
As the representative of Ikarus in Israel I have some knowledge to share with you.
Eco Piccolo Fun:
Arrives with 295 motor and with plastic bushings, instead of bearings. it also have a metal shafts.
The Picco board do't have the option for heading hold module and can accept only 7-8 cells battery.

Piccolo standard:
Arrives with 310 motor, metal bearings, carbon shafts (better).
piccoboard have the option for heading lock module.

both can accept the upgrade for collective pitch mechanism but in order to be able to do aerobatics you will need to replace the main motor to 410 or brushless and the Tail Rotor Motor to bigger one,
The original Tail Rotor Motor can't handle the added torque of the 410 or Brushless Motor.

Be aware that it will need extra Servo and need the 6th' channel on your receiver.
It will need also a Tail Boom Support (other wish it will get in to resonance Vibration at some point of head speed, especialy if you will not use 9 cells)
The Piccolo pro arrives with carbon fins you might want to add and cool looking canopy.
the piccolo pro came with the heading lock module and supports 9 cells.
the 410 Motor uses metal pinion gear as well.

You can use the piccoboard Pro with the Piccolo Fun.

My Opinion is that you should buy the fun version and when ready to progress, sell it and have new piccolo Pro.

Best regards
Avi Wertheimer

12-31-2002 Over year old.

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aviw
Heliman
Location: Israel

Not Every Body from Israel is Lior Zahavi

David,
Not this time,this is real one.
No fakes in my profie - all true.

My name is Avi Wertheimer, and I am Importer and Distributor of R/C products in Israel and a hobbyist contributing a lot to the hobbyists in Israel, have a web site includes many article i wrote during the years, as a contribution to our community of hobbyists.

visitign from time to time, here, at runryder - most of the time learn and this time tried to help.
I aware to the posts in Runryder and in the Israeli forum you advartise your knoledge about this guy. I am not in a position to express an opinion on this issue.

just for you to feel comfortable, please verify the trues of my word as follows:
Get in to www.mscomposit.com, www.centuryheli.com at the dealer sectin and see that I am a real one.
Call Marc from Byron Fuels and ask him.
get in to my web site (if you read hebrew) ww.tisan.co.il and see that it is a real business.
get in to the Israel forum and ask them if "me is he" or "me is me".
You also can call me (972)-67-577797 to talk to me.
Attached also my picture in the ideal pose.

After you will realize you jumped to conclusions to fast, your apology will be more then welcome.

Realy sorry to realize that problems with one guy from Israel lead to bad reputation and suspicion to all Israeli guys.

Best regards
Avi Wertheimer

01-01-2003 Over year old.

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aviw
Heliman
Location: Israel

I am in shock

David,
Thank you very much for your help

I talked to Lior Zahavi, and settled this issue.

My Email adresses are as follows aviw@tisan.co.il which is the domain of my business and avi@wertheimer.co.il which is my personal domain.

Best regards
Avi Wertheimer

01-02-2003 Over year old.

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Rchover
Key Veteran
Location: Helping Customers!

blades for cp pic?

Avi ,
Have you tried other blades like the hornet FG or CF blades on a CP piccolo yet? if so how does it work with 3d flying?

thanks

Jeremy

01-14-2003 Over year old.

Bugflyer
Heliman
Location: Maryland

Hello I am new to the group . I recently purchased and built an piccolo pro . I like it, and tried my Hornet CP blades .They work great. I had to modify the throttle and pitch curves slightly but they give me about the same flight time and are more durable than the woodies. As for 3D I have only done a loop with it and it was fine . I am not anaccomplished 3D flyer so don't know about other things. Hope this helps

01-15-2003 Over year old.

Rchover
Key Veteran
Location: Helping Customers!

thanks for the reply Bugflyer!

did the blades fit the blade grips ok or did you have to modify the blades to fit?

they are longer than stock piccolo blades, can they hit the TR?

thanks

Jeremy

01-15-2003 Over year old.

Bugflyer
Heliman
Location: Maryland

I had to mill down the blades at the grip slightly so they would fit .It did not look to me like they would hit the tail rotor. I have put about 20 flights on it so far ,5 of them outside in forward flight with no problems. The only problem I have had with the heli is the tail motor frying. I am beginning to think anytime the tail rotor hits something it can fry the tail motor since this happened after i bumped the wall. The motor I have on it now seems to be holding up. I have a voyager E and 2 Hornets FP and really like the piccolo pro so far.

01-15-2003 Over year old.

Rchover
Key Veteran
Location: Helping Customers!

why is the TR frying?

do you have any experience with brushless motor setups and lith-poly bats?

Jeremy

01-15-2003 Over year old.

Bugflyer
Heliman
Location: Maryland

I am trying to determine why it is cooking. I took one apart and found the brush assembly melted off. The new one I am experimenting with seems to be holding up. I think it mostly happens when something stops the tailrotor abruptly while power is applied. It may not be the motors fault. I will keep you posted. It flies great and I think its worth pursuing. It was the best heli right out of the box that i have built and flown so far

01-17-2003 Over year old.

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